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Rumortoid: Microsoft scamming European customers with refurbed Xboxes? photo

There's a rather unsettling rumor floating around the 'netwaves today concerning 'new' European Xbox 360 bundles that may be old refurbished consoles with outdated parts.

The Web site Logic-Sunrise claims that the new European bundle deal consisting of two games and two wireless controllers could contain hardware that predates the Falcon motherboard, meaning they are more likely to suffer the "red rings of death." The site says it has found Hitachi 47 DVD drives in the machines, as well as after-sales white labels in place of the common silver labels. One customer also reports his newly purchased 360 lacked the HDMI port, and even had pencil marks and blood stains on it. 

This is just a rumor until anything more concrete arises, but it's not like Microsoft has a proven track record of care and efficiency when it comes to electronic hardware. Considering the entire reason there are so many refurb units is because The 'Soft cuts corners and damns the consequences is enough to make this rather believable. It could also be a case of retailers switching out consoles themselves, like the shady wankers they are. So far, MS has not commented on the issue, but I'd check your 360 for spunk marks if you decide to buy one soon.


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mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:54
mix
"check your 360 for spunk marks"
That's just how happy MS is with their console, they want to offer a chance for the ladies to father their elite, overheating, children and the blood stains are just free AIDS.

I think you hate MS Jim as it sounds to me like they are doing more than they should.

/sarcasm
FreedomToast's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:55
FreedomToast
they just love to fuck with Europeans dont they
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:01
Trev
Pencil I'd believe, but I'm going to need to see pictures before I believe someone unboxed a 360 with blood stains on it.
skud's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:07
skud
i got my 360 for christmas and it was an old one with no HDMI. i assumed it was really old stock, or a refurb.
dragfindel's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:10
dragfindel
lol blood stains on your 360, sounds like a perfect setting for CSI. but if this is true, it would be very unfortunate for the new owners.
Professor Pew's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:22
Professor Pew
I think this was only for the new 199 euro Arcade pack that comes with Halo 3, Forza and 2 wireless controllers. One french site first scooped that, and later Logic sunrise posted how they included old hardware.
Mikescool's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:24
Mikescool
i bought an xbox 360 from walmart and it was swapped out by someone... and they won't let me return it. this is Canada as well.
garrfunkel's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:38
garrfunkel
I dont believe the blood thing. If MS were gonna re-sell refurbs then Im pretty sure they would check for blood stains before doing so. On the other hand if this is true it does not bode well for MS.
Boggs's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:44
Boggs
Blood... pffft... wake me up when they've got pentagrams engraved on them.
NihonTiger90's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:44
NihonTiger90
Everyone hates Europe, it seems.
Moofey's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:49
Moofey
Honestly, knowing Micro$oft, I wouldn't be surprised if this was real.
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:54
Anus Mcphanus
Only in Europe.....
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:05
MechaMonkey
Pencil marks and blood stains? I'd like to hear about the situation that led to this.
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:17
Quest
lucky for me i'm not in europe :)
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:22
Monte
so THIS is how MS is helping to cover their losses? Forcing refurbished units on customers who payed for something new? wow, if this rumor is true, then its a new low for MS...

Really, i might be fine with getting a refurbished unit IF i was getting it at a lower price, but if i pay for something new i expect to get something new...

@GARRFUNKEL
kinda depends on how big the bloodstains are... if their small enough then they might have been quickly overlooked or missed during the cleaning process
deiga-the-semivaliant's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:34
deiga-the-semivaliant
I dunno what you thought when you heard 'bloodstain', but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a splatter of lifejuice dripping off the harddrive.

A small drop maybe? Easily missed.

That said, if this is true it's huge fucking bullshit. For shame, Microsoft.
animateria's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:38
animateria
MS must be in the mob business.

Shadiness all around!

And BLOOOD! BLOOOOOD!
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:39
TrailerParkJesus
Why do people live in Europe in the first place?
Churchhills Dog's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:43
Churchhills Dog
*cue Nelson Muntz laugh*

AH-HA! Europeans are second class citizens!
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:44
Necros
MechaMonkey brings up an excellent question.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:05
brainderailment
Pictures or it didn't happen, although you could make those up too.

It wouldn't surprise me if it were true.
ikoul's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:14
ikoul
Why is it that as soon as I saw the phrase "spunk marks" in my RSS reader, I knew the article was by Jim Sterling?
Misanthrope's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:21
Misanthrope
Nice going developers and consumers, letting microsoft into the console world will surely continue to pay off!
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:31
Qraze
would a droplet even show up on a 360? i know if it was my ps3 then i just wipe it off its sleek design. you can do that with a 360 right, or is the plastic that porous?
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:36
Crunshii
only Europe?

I thought they were doing this to the entire world.
McSnow's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:51
McSnow
America get film and TV on demand, we get the aidsbox 360.
Too Much Coffee Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:52
Too Much Coffee Man
older models i can believe.

But no HDMI? Does the box say HDMI?

maybe the blood stains are a gears of war limited edition lol
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:54
JamnOnTheOne
Refurb > New

...Most times anyway. Refurbs oftentimes have a more thorough QA process.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 15:36
Syn
Do we expect anything better of M$? I mean COME ON they built their whole empire on stolen software, it's a whole company of sissies.
Just makes my PS3 look even better, you're the man M$!
niacin's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 15:47
niacin
oh to hell with this I'm finally going to be getting myself a 360 soon and if I find cum stains my rage will be... completely unnoticed by microsoft.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 16:06
Volomon
I thought this kind of stuff was illegal? How can you sell something used as something new, the price value of ANYTHING new goes down as soon as the box is opened.

Oh well thats what you get for buying an Xbox 360, the natural love and care of MS.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 16:09
Volomon
@JamnOnTheOne Let me debunk that myth that a refurb is better than new. First off all the parts have been through strain or use, meaning more quality checks are needed because of this. Where as a new has parts UNUSED, meaning their shouldn't be anything wrong with any console in a batch. Now only that but a NEW console comes with a warranty that it works, where as a refurb tends to have a 30 day warranty. Meaning if your screwed your screwed thats the risk of buying used. Theres a reason for that warranty difference.
cjpkiller's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 16:11
cjpkiller
they already lost europe so are they now just saying fuck it?
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 16:42
Monte
@VOLOMON
Hey now, you have an error in your logic; "their shouldn't be anything wrong with any console"... you see this is Microsoft we're talking about, their hardware is just full of shit fresh out of the box

Also These refurbed 360's come with the full 3 year warranty...
Batthink's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 17:17
Batthink
"One customer also reports his newly purchased 360 lacked the HDMI port, and even had pencil marks and blood stains on it."

They sacrificed something to make it work again? Uh oh... >_>
Alpha 87655320875's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 19:04
Alpha 87655320875
Everybody in the video game industry hates Europeans, that's a fact.
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 19:41
BlackSunEmpire
Wow, refurbed units masquerading as new units, almost like packaging sixaxis in the place of dualshocks, or shipping your software by retarded turtle mail.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 22:57
hpv
This is why you guys should never have bought a microsoft console in the first place. These guys have 30 years of experience doing it poorly with computers and the xbox is just another attempt to extend their desktop monopoly into other industries.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/20/2008 01:39
wardrox
I wonder why the PS3 is selling better?
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/20/2008 02:20
mistic
OMG if thats true, somebody should have his balls nailed to the wall...
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/20/2008 13:28
JamnOnTheOne
@Volomon

As someone that works for a company that makes a good degree of money off our "B" stock (90 days used), I can say that the refurb systems get far more care and attention put on them than our new stuff. Oftentimes, most (if not all) components are replaced and the only "used" piece is the chassis and some cabling.
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