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Rumortoid: A full list of the files found on Smash Bros. Brawl disk?[UPDATE] photo

Like spoilers? Speculation? Hacking? Super Smash Bros. Brawl? If so, this story may be for you.

Deep inside the humongous, informative, yet never completely reliable Brawl spoilers page on NeoGaf, there is a link to a page claiming to be the complete list of files on the Brawl game DVD. Those willing to attempt to decipher the wall of text this list presents will find more potential spoilers than even those in Reaprar's world famous Brawl spoilers C-blog.

For the record, I've tried all day to authenticate the list and the super weird site it was found on. The list itself was taken down from the host's site hours ago and replaced with yucky-ness, but luckily I saved myself a copy and included it in the gallery of this post. It's a huge list, and had to be split up into seven parts. Even then it turns out the list is not compete. It ends with the words "movi", not the way these sorts of ISO data dumps lists usually end. Anything, the inclusion of more characters, moves, movies, information on anything could follow word "movi" in the text dump. We may never know. 

The super weird site's owner, the person likely responsible for the original data dump and the corresponding list, is thus far unreachable for comment.  So stick all this info firmly in your "rumors" file for now.

My findings after the jump.

[Via Brawl spoilers page at NeoGaf

There is a lot to be deciphered from this list of file names, but I'm just going to stick with what I found most interesting; the potential for more playable characters.

Hope and potential can be found from the list's fighter\ef directories. There is such a directory for each of the thus far confirmed characters, plus a few extras. Those extras include Dr Mario, Dixie, MewTwo, Pra_Mai(?), Roy, Toon Sheik, Toon Zelda, Zako Ball, Zako Boy, Zako Child, and Zako Girl. Sorry folks, no Mega Man. 

All these files chalk in at a size of 128 each. It doesn't specify 128MB or GB, so we'll just have to guess that it's 128 somethings. More importantly, 128 somethings is much smaller than most other character's fighters\ef files. For example, Peach's fighter\ef file comes in at "size:113280". The smaller file size for the fighter\ef directories designated to so far unseen characters implies that these directories may represent unfinished or otherwise unusable data.

However, there are four characters confirmed to be playable in Brawl that have these small 128 sized fighter\ef directories. Those characters are GKoopa (presumably Giga Bowser), Warioman, Nana (one half of the Ice Climbers team), and Mr Game and Watch. So what can we infer from that? Well, I take it to mean that fighter\ef files 128 somethings in size are for alternate polygon sets for other potentially playable characters.

The Zako series of files likely represent the Fighting Alloy team, are of whom are known to solely use other character's animations. Nana uses identical animations as her Ice Climbing partner Popo. As for Warioman and Giga Bowser, they are the alternate polygon sets for the final smashes of Wario and Bowser, and have no unique animations of their own. And since Game and Watch technically has no animations, just a series of texture maps cycled in specific orders to give the illusion of animation, it can safely be deducted that fighter\ef files must only be for character models and textures, and not for animations in any way. 

So what more can we assume from all this? I don't know about you, but I'm taking this info to mean that maybe, just maybe, Dr. Mario, Dixie Kong, MewTwo, Roy, Toon Sheik, and Toon Zelda are potentially unlockable alternate character models for other currently confirmed characters in Brawl. I'm sure hoards of Wii hackers are already on the case, trying to confirm or deny this rumor. I for one was a little disappointed that the above characters from Melee were cut from Brawl, and would be delighted see them made available for the game via WiiConenct 24, tournaments, or other methods.

But more so, I'd like to think that all of Brawl's secrets couldn't be unlocked mere days after it's release in Japan. That would just be too anti-climactic for a game that's had it's secrets talked about for five years running.

Don't think me naive. I've been around. I am aware that this list could be fake, and even if it's not, that nearly every game has unusable data still on the disk. This could all be much ado about nothing. That doesn't mean I can't hope that the Brawl equivalent to GTA: San Andreas' Hot Coffee mod is a MewTwo, Dixie Kong, Toon Sheik and Dr Mario battle-orgy of epic proportions.

Anyone else out there want to get on board my hope train?


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Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 21:34
Jonathan Holmes
By all means, The-Excel, post it on your site as well.

You deserve the attention.
The-Excel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 22:13
The-Excel
http://whatistheexcel.com/upload/D.txt

Enjoy it while you can because for my safety it's going down within 48 hours.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 22:35
Dan CiTi
This game was built off of Melee.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 22:39
Dan CiTi
Actually, those characters never made it into the game. There only 35. There's an event(#21) where you fight each character. There' only 35. Look it up on YouTube.
The-Excel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 23:25
The-Excel
Then again I hope no one's forgotten that there's always the hope for North American-exclusive content to live for.
Tonjevic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 01:16
Tonjevic
Just so you guys know, this is a real dump of the files list. Crediar is a fairly well-known guy within the Wii hacking/development community and the reason that the list was cut off at the end was because the current Wii-disc-dumping tools don't yet support dual-layer DVDs. This is why there are no SSBB Isos or whatever up on the various warez sites.

Personally, I think they're probably unlockable alternate costumes -- like the 'original wario' alt costume of Wario.

Then again, maybe it's wishful thinking. I hope it's not trash data, though, 'cause that would be bad sucky.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

P.S. As an aside, the sound track of brawl consists of 314 tracks! It's over a gigabyte! Pretty insane.
timmet's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 01:32
timmet
first off, the DVD is only 7.5 GB, so 128 probably refers to kilobytes. Game and watch should not take too much space since he is just a bunch of images, requiring no textures or 3d modeling which takes up the most space. If anything, the extra "hidden" characters might be model change clones, but I'm leaning towards cut characters. Most likely? This is a hoax of some kind. I'm thinking there are a few more hidden characters since all the unlockables seem to have been unlocked in SSE, and if that's the case, well, lame sauce. And one more thing, stop asking for ridley as a playable character. Yes ridley is awesome, but he makes no sense as a playable character. He's way too big, seriously, how does playing as him make any sense at all.
Tonjevic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 01:39
Tonjevic
@ Timmet: Game and Watch is actually just the cross-section of a 3d model. Or - at least - he was in Melee. It's interesting to see the various bits of his geometry when you give him a different character's moveset with an Action Replay. He goes through all the unrestrained motion that the other characters would, and so you get really strange effects where parts of his body change size and shape and stuff.

As for Ridley: Look at Charizard. He's a large dragon, too. They handled him alright. I'm sure that The Brawl team would have no trouble scaling him down to size, anyway. They scaled kirby up -- he's meant to be 8 inches tall.
Anyway, it's all useless, because he's not in Brawl outside of a Boss character.
The Incredible Edible Egg's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 02:25
The Incredible Edible Egg
Whats with two seperate mentions of Koopa? (One being GKoopa or something rather)
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 05:34
Jonathan Holmes
Giga Bowser and Bowser.

Geez, is my writing that avoidable?
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 06:17
Luigi takes over
Didn't they come out and say on the Dojo that Diddy kong's alt-costume is Dixie Kong?

He was lovingly referred to as "Tranny kong" for a while. Maybe some alt-costume characters were scrapped in dev but left on the disk? That'd be pretty cool.

and if they're full characters thats even better. However there's one thing I'm pretty sure of, and that the file list is probably legit. That doesn't mean much for sure, however.
SWE3tMadness's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 13:49
SWE3tMadness
Wow, so I was proven wrong on my previous call. However, what the files are named and what they actually are can be two completely different things, as some people have already pointed out. Alt. skins would be a kickass addition, but I think we would've heard about that option before now if it was actually included. >.>

So it's moved up from "fake" to "irrelevant".
Antwhan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 15:08
Antwhan
Livin' on a prayer for mewtwo still, that challenges screen w/ his tile left me wondering....

if lucario fights similar to mewtwo then i guess he could be an alt costume idk myself though....

one thing that sorta made me sad if that it appears that ganondorf is still a clone and all the star fox characters control the same meaning not just one clone of fox but 2.....

and they all get the same final smash making them even less unique...at least cap'n falc'n and ganondorf get different ones....

I'll go on this last note...

"Don't stop belivin', hold on to that feeling"
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 16:58
Dan CiTi
There is no alt mewtwo costume for Lucario. Mewtwo is not playable. Lucario is better anyway. There is a pink costume for Diddy.
dprime's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 19:15
dprime
My favorite is this string...
\landmaster\landmaster\land_master.lms, size:67840 off:2C1E1040
\landmaster\landmaster\land_master.lms, size:67840 off:2C1E1040
\landmaster\landmaster\land_master.lms, size:67840 off:2C1E1040
\landmaster\landmaster\land_master.lms, size:67840 off:2C1E1040
\landmaster\landmaster\land_master.lms, size:67840 off:2C1E1040
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\landmaster\landmaster\land_master.lms, size:67840 off:2C1E1040
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\landmaster\landmaster\land_master.lms, size:67840 off:2C1E1040
\landmaster\landmaster\land_master.lms, size:67840 off:2C1E1040
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\landmaster\landmaster\land_master.lms, size:67840 off:2C1E1040
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\landmaster\landmaster\land_master.lms, size:67840 off:2C1E1040
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CRaZyTooTHJiM's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 20:11
CRaZyTooTHJiM
that was relevant to my intrest, thank you.
CRaZyTooTHJiM's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 20:15
CRaZyTooTHJiM
^^^ when good typing goes bad ^^^
Antwhan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/04/2008 22:18
Antwhan
ah well... kinda figured bout the costumes.

still maD bout the star fox clones and there landmasters w. slightly different colors wasting space...no offense to star fox, but it deserves at least an alternate play style, krystal or slippy for sum variety,

i'm going on the limb here assuming will plays the same since he looks like fox and falco in many ways including final smash. If I'm wrong, then shoop da whoop on me.

megaman woulda been nice to find on there, giving the 3rd party another nod, but e/e.. clones or not new characters are kinda cool....

metroid deserves some more love than it gets. a metroid assist trophy woulda been kickass :P
ShadeWithin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2008 21:00
ShadeWithin
Antwhan...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CuKH8mfM9Yc

^Metroid assist trophy, you're welcome. :D
Antwhan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 05:10
Antwhan
ShadeWithin, U've made me o so happy.

And even more anxious for brawl. Drill dozer is also a surprise.

and this morning's dojo was about assist trophies http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist15.html

what are the odds? lol
JohnThEReaper617's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 12:36
JohnThEReaper617
Newly discovered!

Reggie Fils-Aime an unlockable character in Brawl!

Even tho that was a joke would I not be surprised to see that? I mean they put pokemon trainer in...why not THE REG!!!
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 13:56
Fading Star
Cool.
BlackMario's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2009 18:43
BlackMario
Siegfried would have been an epic Ike clone. Also would give 3rd party another nod, and would have been easy to get, being that he's a Namco character, and Nintendo, Sega and Namco partnered to make F-zero GX and AX.
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