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I'm really hoping they skimp on the Hardrive like the reported 8GB, it's much cheaper for me to just buy an SD card. A 128 GB SD card workse for 3DS so I'll just buy a big SD card, and It'll be cheaper.
8GB supplemented with SD Cards? Are they fuking joking?! I barely have enough room on my 320GB 360 hard drive. Bloody IDIOTS. Guess no one is buying WiiU DLC, which means most pubs won't bother supporting it. Seriously STUPID.
Wait nevermind, external USB hard drives, THERE WE GO. Maybe not so stupid at all. USB 3.0 would have made more sense though.
"Storage memory is set at 8GB, but you'll supplement that with SD cards."
Interesting choice if its true.. and a very good one at that. I mean, the idea of needing "memory cards" is kinda dated and all, but we all probably have a bunch of SD cars lying around we can use -and if not, they're cheap (much cheaper then another companies proprietary fair...)
Not so sure if I believe they'd let you use an external HDD though, seems like something Nintendo (and really any console maker at this point) would be against
Interesting choice if its true.. and a very good one at that. I mean, the idea of needing "memory cards" is kinda dated and all, but we all probably have a bunch of SD cars lying around we can use -and if not, they're cheap (much cheaper then another companies proprietary fair...)
Not so sure if I believe they'd let you use an external HDD though, seems like something Nintendo (and really any console maker at this point) would be against
lol andydixon
I don't know why they couldn't put at least 32gb of flash storage. A 32GB SD card can be found for about $25 now if you look around.
I don't know why they couldn't put at least 32gb of flash storage. A 32GB SD card can be found for about $25 now if you look around.
@Jinx 01
"I don't know why they couldn't put at least 32gb of flash storage. A 32GB SD card can be found for about $25 now if you look around."
They are keeping costs down. 8 gigs is enough for game saves and a few smaller downloadable games like Virtual Console and WiiWare games, and like you said, SDCards are cheap, fast, and supported out of the box.
It also supports SDXC cards, meaning 64GB cards. If you can also buy and install games on an external HDD, then the whole storage "issue" is moot; they are cheaper by the GB that XBox 360 HDDs, and about on par with the 2.5 drives used on the PS3.
"I don't know why they couldn't put at least 32gb of flash storage. A 32GB SD card can be found for about $25 now if you look around."
They are keeping costs down. 8 gigs is enough for game saves and a few smaller downloadable games like Virtual Console and WiiWare games, and like you said, SDCards are cheap, fast, and supported out of the box.
It also supports SDXC cards, meaning 64GB cards. If you can also buy and install games on an external HDD, then the whole storage "issue" is moot; they are cheaper by the GB that XBox 360 HDDs, and about on par with the 2.5 drives used on the PS3.
No, the processor is nothing but decent.
3 Broadway cores ? Do anybody knows what Broadway cores are ?
A Broadway core is 725mhz,90nm architecture.
That doesn't provide as half as power as an xbox360 core,and is using too much electricity to operate because it's too old technology.
3 Broadway cores ? Do anybody knows what Broadway cores are ?
A Broadway core is 725mhz,90nm architecture.
That doesn't provide as half as power as an xbox360 core,and is using too much electricity to operate because it's too old technology.
Look like Wii U owners won't be playing any upcoming PS4/Xbox 720 games. Both those consoles will be using probablay Direct X-11
@Stavros StevieGreek Dimou
Thats the only thing about this report that seems suspect to me, really. Both Nintendo and IBM have said that the Wii U will be using a POWER7 based CPU.
Thats the only thing about this report that seems suspect to me, really. Both Nintendo and IBM have said that the Wii U will be using a POWER7 based CPU.
@UNEMPLOYED JEDI
"Both those consoles will be using probablay Direct X-11"
I can assure you the PS4 will never use DirectX of any kind.
...unless they are bought by Microsoft.
"Both those consoles will be using probablay Direct X-11"
I can assure you the PS4 will never use DirectX of any kind.
...unless they are bought by Microsoft.
The only concern I have with this system is the lack of an internal HDD for installing games. External HDDs will not do it justice, especially if it's running USB 2.0. The transfer speed between it and the system itself would be horribly gimped.
@Zambatoh
You're making a small mistake comparing the transfer speed of an internal drive to an external one in this case.
Well, it is probably wrong to say "mistake" as well. It's more like "look at it from another angle".
You'll be playing big games off of a Disk Drive, and hopefully you won't need to install any files to play them in the first place.
For digitally distributed games, they will ether not be bigger than the RAM, or load off from the HDD with a similar transfer rate than from a Disk, so you should not notice any difference.
You're making a small mistake comparing the transfer speed of an internal drive to an external one in this case.
Well, it is probably wrong to say "mistake" as well. It's more like "look at it from another angle".
You'll be playing big games off of a Disk Drive, and hopefully you won't need to install any files to play them in the first place.
For digitally distributed games, they will ether not be bigger than the RAM, or load off from the HDD with a similar transfer rate than from a Disk, so you should not notice any difference.
" That's good enough for next Gen"
No, that's good enough for CURRENT fen, certainly not next gen. Next gen will make this look like, well a wii
No, that's good enough for CURRENT fen, certainly not next gen. Next gen will make this look like, well a wii
3 cores? Shader model 4.0? Seriously? Why are they still trying to use outdated hardware? this stuff would be decent for 2006, but not for now. any cheapo gaming pc (even sub $500 ones) could smoke this.
Fool me once.
I'm not seeing how people are seeing these specs as "next gen". I guess they sound pretty high tech. We'll see.
I'm not seeing how people are seeing these specs as "next gen". I guess they sound pretty high tech. We'll see.
Fool me once.
I'm not seeing how people are seeing these specs as "next gen". I guess they sound pretty high tech. We'll see.
I'm not seeing how people are seeing these specs as "next gen". I guess they sound pretty high tech. We'll see.
"This system is significantly more powerful than the PS3 or 360."
No its not. Its cpu is significantly weaker. Only 3 cores vs ps3s 9 and 360s 6. And a slower speed too, and its apples to apples since they're all powerpc based
No its not. Its cpu is significantly weaker. Only 3 cores vs ps3s 9 and 360s 6. And a slower speed too, and its apples to apples since they're all powerpc based
anyone picking on the CPU is a retard, it was confirmed by IBM to use "Watson´s technology" (Power 7). This rumor is wrong !
We only had one person (the Tekken Guy, Harada) commenting on the clock speed, which seems to be low. So....this rumor can be thrown out of the window !
We only had one person (the Tekken Guy, Harada) commenting on the clock speed, which seems to be low. So....this rumor can be thrown out of the window !
god, i love the Wii-U hate machine that's driving gaming sites these days.
just keep lubing up those pistons, boys!
just keep lubing up those pistons, boys!
@Tahiri:
You mean the Cell in Ps3: 1 normal core and 7 slave cores/co processors, of which one is dedicated to OS, leaving 6 for games ?
Or the Xenon CPU: 3 Power PC processors, capable of 2 Threads each ??
Power 7: 4 Thread multithreading....
Yeah, and calling the Cell processor Power directly comparable to the Xenon...is something !
You mean the Cell in Ps3: 1 normal core and 7 slave cores/co processors, of which one is dedicated to OS, leaving 6 for games ?
Or the Xenon CPU: 3 Power PC processors, capable of 2 Threads each ??
Power 7: 4 Thread multithreading....
Yeah, and calling the Cell processor Power directly comparable to the Xenon...is something !
All the children talking about how these specs don't look next gen... so cute.
Every console during this current generation has used about half a GB of RAM. The Wii U will be sporting at least double that.
Internal storage? Why complain when you can just get yourself any SD card or external HDD? Why are people upset that Nintendo is not forcing any proprietary crap onto the consumer the way Microsoft did with the 360's early years?
On top of that, its GPU and CPU are most assuredly stronger than what's in current generation console; perhaps not a massive leap but this definitely going to provide some nice looking games.
And at this point, if graphics are so important to you, shut up and build a PC already.
Every console during this current generation has used about half a GB of RAM. The Wii U will be sporting at least double that.
Internal storage? Why complain when you can just get yourself any SD card or external HDD? Why are people upset that Nintendo is not forcing any proprietary crap onto the consumer the way Microsoft did with the 360's early years?
On top of that, its GPU and CPU are most assuredly stronger than what's in current generation console; perhaps not a massive leap but this definitely going to provide some nice looking games.
And at this point, if graphics are so important to you, shut up and build a PC already.
I was fine with the Wii when compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3, so yeah, I have absolutely no problem with these specs.
@HKKstudios
"No DirectX 11, starting on the right foot nintendo"
Do yuo even UNDERSTAND what you're complaining about?
DirectX is a Microsoft API! Support for this in a non-Microsoft platform IS USELESS!
"No DirectX 11, starting on the right foot nintendo"
Do yuo even UNDERSTAND what you're complaining about?
DirectX is a Microsoft API! Support for this in a non-Microsoft platform IS USELESS!
@El Conrado:
That means the Wii U can't even use DirectX 1-10!
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That means the Wii U can't even use DirectX 1-10!
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Looks pretty meh to me.
I think the iPads have better graphical capability than this these days. And more internal storage too.
I think the iPads have better graphical capability than this these days. And more internal storage too.
Gear Box says the Wii U is the best looking version. They say you can't do these textures on PS3 or 360. Plus full 1080p while still running another totally independent tablet. With these specs & external hard drive storage this is not current gen.
Honestly don't care that much about the specs, i'm more intersted in how many co-op games have online play and how much of a pain in the arse it is to use it.
More interested in the games Nintendo is offering than how much power it has. If some of you guys want more power then plug a controller into your pc. The Wii U is about innovating gameplay with the new Wii U pad.
@Tahiri
That is an inaccurate view on CPU's. The PS3 does not have 9 cores, the 360 does not 6 cores, and they are not directly comparable because they're variants of PowerPC. The Cell is extremely different from Xenon. Also, even if that were the case there is more to consider than just core count. Bandwith, caches, transistor count, blah blah blah.
Also, isn't this like the 3rd time Wii U specs have been "confirmed"? I'll tell you thing that's right about this though, the Wii U won't have DirectX11, because it won't use DirectX at all. It doesn't matter what they put in there, unless the Wii U has a Microsoft OS it won't have DirectX. It will be using OpenGL (like the PS3, except probably a newer version); which in all honesty most things should use in the first place over DirectX. They accomplish essentially the same things; except OpenGL can go anywhere and DirectX is exclusive to Windows OS's (though, DirectX gives access to some features of Windows).
That is an inaccurate view on CPU's. The PS3 does not have 9 cores, the 360 does not 6 cores, and they are not directly comparable because they're variants of PowerPC. The Cell is extremely different from Xenon. Also, even if that were the case there is more to consider than just core count. Bandwith, caches, transistor count, blah blah blah.
Also, isn't this like the 3rd time Wii U specs have been "confirmed"? I'll tell you thing that's right about this though, the Wii U won't have DirectX11, because it won't use DirectX at all. It doesn't matter what they put in there, unless the Wii U has a Microsoft OS it won't have DirectX. It will be using OpenGL (like the PS3, except probably a newer version); which in all honesty most things should use in the first place over DirectX. They accomplish essentially the same things; except OpenGL can go anywhere and DirectX is exclusive to Windows OS's (though, DirectX gives access to some features of Windows).
Meh. decent enough I guess.
Comparable to how Apple products, it has it's appeal, the software but the hardware is not best of the best. Doesn't make it a bad product.
Comparable to how Apple products, it has it's appeal, the software but the hardware is not best of the best. Doesn't make it a bad product.
I really can't read these specs in terms of current/next gen (I'm not a techie guy), but to me, the most important thing would be and always have been fluidity. Nintendo has always committed in having its games running at a solid 60 fps, and if they can make an hardware outputting HD graphics without the hiccups of current Ps360 (which often makes current games an unplayable mess), that would be more than enough to look like next gen to most of the people, except maybe said pc kiddies (I still remember one of those telling me that Metroid Prime textures were "crap", TOTALLY missing the point). Actual console HD graphics are more than enough IMO, they just need to look like a moving game more than a collection of marketing pics.
I've read comparisons and technically Wii U is more powerful than both Xbox 360 and PS3, but there are still things that the Wii U can't do that the other consoles can because it has a slower processor. Of course there are probably ways around that, but it could be a factor in it's graphical development over time.
Well that on par but slight modern current gen specs, but that about it. This is a system they should have had ready two years ago. What is Nintendo's plan here? Is the plan to sell Wii U for a year then watch as the next gen system from Sony and MS arrive to overshadow it. And who's it for? Nintendo got burned by casual gamer not buying games, yet they are still trying to fawn over them instead of providing core gamers what they want.
I don't think Nintendo has a clear plan that works for Japan that works for N. American and Europe too. Nintendo fans are tired and brittle...they want to hope... but even coming out so strong with Wii turned to ashes in their mouths this generation. If Wii U does not providing 'games' over the long term fans will sour. We all know it will sell at launch, but in two, three, or four years after the launch will the system still be viable? I don't see the system being viable after three years; one year of selling well enough then just month after month declines punctuated with brief sales when Ninetndo games arrive while 3rd party games erode.
I don't think Nintendo has a clear plan that works for Japan that works for N. American and Europe too. Nintendo fans are tired and brittle...they want to hope... but even coming out so strong with Wii turned to ashes in their mouths this generation. If Wii U does not providing 'games' over the long term fans will sour. We all know it will sell at launch, but in two, three, or four years after the launch will the system still be viable? I don't see the system being viable after three years; one year of selling well enough then just month after month declines punctuated with brief sales when Ninetndo games arrive while 3rd party games erode.
^ its 3 times as powerful as the ps3. What more do you want?
They spec'd up.
And if your a real gamer you should know specs, arent the most important thing ( most of the time the least important thing)
They spec'd up.
And if your a real gamer you should know specs, arent the most important thing ( most of the time the least important thing)
What the hell is this shit? What is this "enhanced broadway core" crap, we already know the Wii U is using Power7. It uses the PPC architecture, which the Wii's broadway chip was also based on, but saying that they're "enhanced Broadway cores" based on that makes about as much sense as saying that the PS3 has "enhanced Broadway cores", seeing as Cell is also a PPC CPU. At most, the Wii U will natively be able to run Wii code. That's like saying the Vita has an enhanced Dreamcast GPU because they're both PowerVR.
As I've been saying from the start, it looks like a slightly upgraded Xbox 360. That would be great if the 360 didn't come out 7 years ago. *Shrug*
why do i get the feeling people wont be able to download or play games off of the external storage? seems like a hacking security issue to me. i could see it being used to hold your games, then you have to transfer it to the wiiu to play it.
being able to store all your games and downloads etc on an external defeats the purpose of the system even having its own storage...
seems kinda odd to me.
being able to store all your games and downloads etc on an external defeats the purpose of the system even having its own storage...
seems kinda odd to me.
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