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"In news that will piss off those who paid $100 for them, it would also appear that the pre-order characters Jazz, Demolisher and Shockwave will also be thrown into the bargain."
Ahahahahaa
Serves them right for being retarded.
And more War for Cybertron? YES!
And about host migration ... Wasnt there a supposed to be a patch coming out that somewhat fixes this?
Ahahahahaa
Serves them right for being retarded.
And more War for Cybertron? YES!
And about host migration ... Wasnt there a supposed to be a patch coming out that somewhat fixes this?
Jim,
Just a bit of advice, as I was having the same issue with escalation and hosts leaving. While it won't fix if there's a sudden disconnect issue, I recommend hosting when playing escalation. Solved my problem 100%.
Of course it didn't stop everyone from leaving when we made it to wave 16 anyway. But hey, at least a bunch of new people dropped in and got to watch me get demolished by all that wave 16 throws at you.
Just a bit of advice, as I was having the same issue with escalation and hosts leaving. While it won't fix if there's a sudden disconnect issue, I recommend hosting when playing escalation. Solved my problem 100%.
Of course it didn't stop everyone from leaving when we made it to wave 16 anyway. But hey, at least a bunch of new people dropped in and got to watch me get demolished by all that wave 16 throws at you.
I guess that would be the only way. There's no way I shouldn't have the fucking Achievement for Wave 15 by now, having been screwed the fuck over so many times.
I'm right there with you on hosts quiting and wrecking the game for everyone. But since when is host migration a "very basic feature?" Wasn't everyone impressed when that feature was added to Modern Warfare 2? It sounds to me like you're refusing to put any money into this (sleeper hit?) title until they implement a "cutting edge" feature found in few games.
@Art Jones
But that's the point; the feature does exist and has for quite a while, so there is no longer an excuse for a current generation game not having it.
But that's the point; the feature does exist and has for quite a while, so there is no longer an excuse for a current generation game not having it.
I really want to buy this game and I'm all for the DLC, but I'm not even picking up a copy until they patch in host migration. Frankly, there is no excuse not to have migration from launch; it should be a key, fundamental part of any online mode.
drivenbyart:
You could be right, but if it's NOT a standard feature, that says a lot about the state of the industry. That shit was around back in the Half-Life days. There is no excuse for it to not be in every game now.
You could be right, but if it's NOT a standard feature, that says a lot about the state of the industry. That shit was around back in the Half-Life days. There is no excuse for it to not be in every game now.
They at least need lobby migration, the host quitting really ruins the flow for me and prevents me from wanting to commit a lot more hours to the game.
I really hope they can do it because I'm having a lot of fun when things go right, and with the first patch focusing keeping experience after a host quits I'm hoping a later patch will fix the major issues.
I really hope they can do it because I'm having a lot of fun when things go right, and with the first patch focusing keeping experience after a host quits I'm hoping a later patch will fix the major issues.
At least you can connect Jim. I haven't been able to connect to a multiplayer game since launch. REALLY pissing me off.
Host migration is definitely key though. There's no reason it shouldn't be in every multiplayer game.
Host migration is definitely key though. There's no reason it shouldn't be in every multiplayer game.
@Jim Sterling
Half-Life was a dedicated server model, which is totally the rub. The PC version of War for Cybertron uses Xbox LIVE style matchmaking for its multiplayer, so you get the same problems. If they're not going to give us dedicated servers for games, then a host migration feature should absolutely be included. Or at least tell the host that he's hosting so he realizes the impact of quitting. Wait, maybe that'd be worse?
Half-Life was a dedicated server model, which is totally the rub. The PC version of War for Cybertron uses Xbox LIVE style matchmaking for its multiplayer, so you get the same problems. If they're not going to give us dedicated servers for games, then a host migration feature should absolutely be included. Or at least tell the host that he's hosting so he realizes the impact of quitting. Wait, maybe that'd be worse?
@Tino,
Haha, that guy left our game as soon as the achievement popped up.
Then we got murdered by the jets an rocketeers fffffffffu.
X-12 Scrapmaker + Overshield + Thermo Mine spam (if you're not constantly laying mines, you're doing it wrong) = easy Wave 15 get!
Haha, that guy left our game as soon as the achievement popped up.
Then we got murdered by the jets an rocketeers fffffffffu.
X-12 Scrapmaker + Overshield + Thermo Mine spam (if you're not constantly laying mines, you're doing it wrong) = easy Wave 15 get!
RE: Host Migration
I really don't think Host migration should be an issue for those PAYING for Xbox LIVE, I would really expect, when paying for "the betturest" online gaming service for Dedicated servers to be part of that deal.
I would have to throw it out there that more PSN games have dedicated servers than LIVE games. That's just an opinion, i don't have time to find out and count, but it's often PS3 exclusives that have those fancy free dedicated servers.
My Xbot buddy saw MW2 on my PS3 and was like, "oh you get a lot more host left the game and host migration and shit than i do on Xbox LIVE" - Durp durp, do you even know what you're talking about?
So the fact that in the couple of rounds you saw more hosts happened to leave on PSN than you see on LIVE means what? That LIVE is better? Because people tend to not leave the lazy, cheap P2P online system? THAT YOU PAY FOR?!
Don't be so fucking silly.
I really don't think Host migration should be an issue for those PAYING for Xbox LIVE, I would really expect, when paying for "the betturest" online gaming service for Dedicated servers to be part of that deal.
I would have to throw it out there that more PSN games have dedicated servers than LIVE games. That's just an opinion, i don't have time to find out and count, but it's often PS3 exclusives that have those fancy free dedicated servers.
My Xbot buddy saw MW2 on my PS3 and was like, "oh you get a lot more host left the game and host migration and shit than i do on Xbox LIVE" - Durp durp, do you even know what you're talking about?
So the fact that in the couple of rounds you saw more hosts happened to leave on PSN than you see on LIVE means what? That LIVE is better? Because people tend to not leave the lazy, cheap P2P online system? THAT YOU PAY FOR?!
Don't be so fucking silly.
Tino and Casualweaponry:
I would KILL for a good team to play Escalation with. How often do you guys play and can we get some shit done?
I would KILL for a good team to play Escalation with. How often do you guys play and can we get some shit done?
They need to do more then just Host Migration, the PS3 version of this game, you can barely get into a game of TDM. Still have not figured out if its just TDM or their servers just being absolute shit. To put it into understandable words, had a two hour session of playing TDM, i played about 4 games...roughly...and they werent even FULL games. Have not touched it since. I hear its just TDM but im too goddamn frustrated to even see if its true.
Still have yet to try Escalation out though. Sounds like it absolutely sucks with a bunch of randoms.
Still have yet to try Escalation out though. Sounds like it absolutely sucks with a bunch of randoms.
I tried to play some escalation and got put in on Wave 14. I got pretty lucky when it came to getting that achievement.
New maps/Character models are all definitely welcome too!
New maps/Character models are all definitely welcome too!
The best Escalation match I ever played ended with the host leaving. We got up to round 12 with no teammate deaths and then the host drops out after we finish the wave. Unbelievable. They really need to fix that. In spite of this nagging issue I still might get the DLC. The game is in serious need of more maps.
@Marc Allen, it would be nice if the richest, most profitable games publisher in the world would include dedicated servers for their games hey? god I hate Activision, and in fact, I managed to pass on Cybertron, I will rent, but not buy, mostly because of the lack of dedicated servers and these matchmaking issues.
epic-koryuken: INDEED! Not even so much that they managed to put aside their differences, just because it's an open enough platform to allow steamworks, unlike some other paid for services. it was a Fatality and a Flawless victory long before Valve joined the team in my book.
epic-koryuken: INDEED! Not even so much that they managed to put aside their differences, just because it's an open enough platform to allow steamworks, unlike some other paid for services. it was a Fatality and a Flawless victory long before Valve joined the team in my book.
@ Jim Sterling. Jim, I have the achievement and learned a good strategy for getting it. I'd be happy to help you or anyone else get it.
Jim -
Pretty much anytime I'm on, I'll play. Usually weekday nights anywhere between 8-12 EST. I say lets do this.
(Were friends on XBL already too. Step 1, COMPLETE.)
Pretty much anytime I'm on, I'll play. Usually weekday nights anywhere between 8-12 EST. I say lets do this.
(Were friends on XBL already too. Step 1, COMPLETE.)
@ Sexualchocolate,
Why is everything a god damn PS3 Vs Xbox thing with you? Don't you ever reread the stuff you write and say to yourself, "Wow, I'm bored with this"? I know I sure would.
Corporate cheerleading is really just a sad thing to do. But to do it 24/7? Well shit, that's just depressing.
Why is everything a god damn PS3 Vs Xbox thing with you? Don't you ever reread the stuff you write and say to yourself, "Wow, I'm bored with this"? I know I sure would.
Corporate cheerleading is really just a sad thing to do. But to do it 24/7? Well shit, that's just depressing.
^^ I should have prefaced that with.. I don't even own an Xbox.. I love my PS3. But man, even I've had enough.
I saw this coming. If the developers were such bigs fans of the Transformers franchise as they said they were, then there was no way in hell they would let it end just with the retail release. Grant it, I'm a bit surprised that they're releasing the pre-order bonus characters so soon. Sucks to be the people the forked over serious chunks of money for such a release.
I would be happy to get some dlc! as long as it isn't uber expensive. But about your problem with connections with hosts, yeah i know the problem. Why i host most of my games. They need to fix things up online, and i read somewhere there is a patch in the works, which gives me hope.
@jim I'll run Escalation with you any time. Not really worried about the achievement myself, just want a good team to have a bit of fun with.
I was thinking about getting this on the PS3. The good reviews along with further content down the line has got me pretty convincend. I just want to know, for anyone who does have it on the PS3, how many people are playing it online? Is it well populated and easy to find to a game?
Now granted this /is/ an Activision title so the chances of this are slim, but maybe, just maybe, this DLC will be free. Given the online issues the game seems to be suffering from and the Dev Team's obvious respect for the fan base, they might toss this one out as a 'Sorry for the lag and hosting issues' kind of thing.
One thing I will note, one of my buds managed to get in on the 'Game with the Developers' thing last week and Host Migration was pretty much the first thing anyone asked about. No straight answer, a lot of kindof semi-forced laughter according to him.
I may be wrong on this, but wasn't this brought up about Gears 2 and Epic basically said they'd have to rip the engine apart to implement it? I can't think of any Unreal Engine games that have Host Migration, could it possibly be a limitation of the game engine itself?
One thing I will note, one of my buds managed to get in on the 'Game with the Developers' thing last week and Host Migration was pretty much the first thing anyone asked about. No straight answer, a lot of kindof semi-forced laughter according to him.
I may be wrong on this, but wasn't this brought up about Gears 2 and Epic basically said they'd have to rip the engine apart to implement it? I can't think of any Unreal Engine games that have Host Migration, could it possibly be a limitation of the game engine itself?
I refuse to play Escalation with randoms, anyhow. I want to make sure I'm playing with someone I know so there's a much higher chance they might have my back covered. As such, though, with only knowing ONE person who actually bought the game, we haven't been able to get past Wave 9. I'm honestly disgusted at how many people have ignored this, when it's just bloody brilliant.
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