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I was actually considering OnLive as a possibility for my next gaming console purchase. Certainly if Sony/Microsoft disallow the use of used games or negate all my previous online store purchases (by not making them compatible with future consoles) I was looking at OnLive as a serious contender.
Having the best of both worlds isn't so bad though. I like Onlive's concept of one monthly fee for access to a huge number of games you can play.
Having the best of both worlds isn't so bad though. I like Onlive's concept of one monthly fee for access to a huge number of games you can play.
cloud gaming could extend the life of the ps3 pretty much indefinitely if they actually support full on cloud gaming with graphics better than the hardware itself
I'm making a bet it is teh fat man's service...it will be Steam's (not yet revealed) streaming service.
Know why it won't be Gaikai? Come on want to know? Who is making the PS4 GPU, because it is not Nvidia anymore - it is AMD. Guess who is in bed with Valve/Steam - it is AMD - they are partners (not a huge deal...but still partners.) And, some of you might not know this, but NVidia and Gainkai are in a sizable partnership.
If 2+2=5, Then PlayStation 4 + AMD = Steam Streaming service. Gabe Newell didn't waddle onto Sony's stage at e3 2010 for his health...they made a big deal..the deal, I'm convinced, was about streaming games.
Know why it won't be Gaikai? Come on want to know? Who is making the PS4 GPU, because it is not Nvidia anymore - it is AMD. Guess who is in bed with Valve/Steam - it is AMD - they are partners (not a huge deal...but still partners.) And, some of you might not know this, but NVidia and Gainkai are in a sizable partnership.
If 2+2=5, Then PlayStation 4 + AMD = Steam Streaming service. Gabe Newell didn't waddle onto Sony's stage at e3 2010 for his health...they made a big deal..the deal, I'm convinced, was about streaming games.
In my opinion, it would be yet another step towards irrelevance. The harder and harder consoles push to become closed PCs, the less and less point there becomes in buying one. Soon enough, most of the shit we can do on consoles will be done on TVs without the need for an extra box, and cloud gaming is already in the works in this capacity.
I just find it strange that console makers seem to be doubling down on so many things that can and will be done better, and more easily, on things people already own.
I just find it strange that console makers seem to be doubling down on so many things that can and will be done better, and more easily, on things people already own.
I was sort of getting exited for this, but OneRed made a good point.
The whole make a console and have it last for 6-10 years isn't really the best model anymore. Consoles aren't even necessarily easier to use for gaming than PCs are anymore either. After playing a few games on my brother's PC rig I just kinda want to play everything on PC instead.
The whole make a console and have it last for 6-10 years isn't really the best model anymore. Consoles aren't even necessarily easier to use for gaming than PCs are anymore either. After playing a few games on my brother's PC rig I just kinda want to play everything on PC instead.
Like I've said before, I'm counting everyone but Nintendo and Indie PC developers out at this point.
Uh, ignore that last comment... That was supposed to be for the Sony patenting commercials article. :-/
Cloud as an option is fine. Mandatory cloud = not getting my money, even if the console were $10.
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I keep with consoles for retail games because unlike on the PC, I don't have to worry about DRM. The PC will always be the best, but not if I have to ask permission to play what I paid for, even if it's just an activation after it's installed. (And no, an actual "one-time" activation doesn't exist. Go to a different PC or even upgrade your own hardware and see what happens 99% of the time.)
Cloud as an option is fine. Mandatory cloud = not getting my money, even if the console were $10.
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I keep with consoles for retail games because unlike on the PC, I don't have to worry about DRM. The PC will always be the best, but not if I have to ask permission to play what I paid for, even if it's just an activation after it's installed. (And no, an actual "one-time" activation doesn't exist. Go to a different PC or even upgrade your own hardware and see what happens 99% of the time.)
"Deal or no, Sony is working to pave the way toward the PS4, which I'm certain will be a cloud-based console."
As someone who doesn't live in the US, meaning that 90% of these services are not offered to me and I have to pay $100 for a 10Mb/s internet connection, I hope to God this isn't the case.
This would cut me off completely.
As someone who doesn't live in the US, meaning that 90% of these services are not offered to me and I have to pay $100 for a 10Mb/s internet connection, I hope to God this isn't the case.
This would cut me off completely.
No, Xbox 720 is more likely to be cloud based. The PS4 would still have BluRay, which is still awesome, especially if they can speed up the read speed.
I highly doubt you'll be able to play Playstation games over the cloud on your PC. And if I had to bet, it probably won't be the other way around either. It's probably cloud gaming for PS3 (and *maybe* Vita), allowing you to play a game that's being run on a remote server by streaming the video to your system, just like OnLive.
I say maybe to Vita because the Wi-Fi in your average handheld device is significantly less capable than the Wi-Fi of your average console or desktop, let alone Ethernet. Not sure how smoothly that would run. PSP Remote Play to your PS3 at home was never fantastic to begin with.
Also, to all those saying that cloud gaming will replace everything in "the future", I'd like to introduce you to all the ISPs (mobile AND home) who are going to throttle, cap, overcharge, and cut you off for streaming HD video for hours on end.
I say maybe to Vita because the Wi-Fi in your average handheld device is significantly less capable than the Wi-Fi of your average console or desktop, let alone Ethernet. Not sure how smoothly that would run. PSP Remote Play to your PS3 at home was never fantastic to begin with.
Also, to all those saying that cloud gaming will replace everything in "the future", I'd like to introduce you to all the ISPs (mobile AND home) who are going to throttle, cap, overcharge, and cut you off for streaming HD video for hours on end.
I was predicting that Sony or Microsoft would consider cloud-gaming in their next-generation of consoles... seems I'm getting warm...
What would be interesting if the cloud-based partnership dealt with backwards-compatibility. Maybe Sony is smart and wants to cut costs by not having hardware every PS4 to support PS3 games, and at the same time doesn't want to develop buggy software emulation that only supports a percentage of games.
Instead, you will put your PS3 discs inside the PS4 as a form of verification and then you will be able to stream it to your PS4. Just like the 360 lets you install games but you still need to have the disc inside for verification. Of course PSN games would be tied to your account so verification wouldn't be such a big deal.
Instead, you will put your PS3 discs inside the PS4 as a form of verification and then you will be able to stream it to your PS4. Just like the 360 lets you install games but you still need to have the disc inside for verification. Of course PSN games would be tied to your account so verification wouldn't be such a big deal.
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