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Oh god.. I am so sick of FPS games.
But there aren't too many horror FPS games, so this could be a good thing.
But there aren't too many horror FPS games, so this could be a good thing.
I don't mind it being first person, but if it involves me blasting away the creepy monsters with tons of firearms then I don't think I'd dig it all the much.
I'm not sure a FPS is the best format to handle a series that's all about exploring environments and avoiding combat. If the new Silent Hill is all about pointing a gun at things until they die, count me as entirely uninterested.
That said, if they can turn it into some sort of Penumbra kind of thing, then ... YES, PLEASE.
That said, if they can turn it into some sort of Penumbra kind of thing, then ... YES, PLEASE.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Puzzle solving was my favorite part of SH, you can't solve puzzles in an FPS game, or can you....hrmmmm
Puzzle solving was my favorite part of SH, you can't solve puzzles in an FPS game, or can you....hrmmmm
if it can be like Condemned 1 but with the horror cranked up to 11, then yes i can get behind it. As of right now i am groaning, Silent Hill has been my fave horror series of all time. Ive enjoyed every single one of them except Shattered Memories (liked the story hated the gameplay).
Given how good Fear 2 was (single player at least), I don't see a problem with the idea; a scary FPS has been done before (in fact two - one of the Aliens FPS games on the PSX was pretty scary too), so there's every chance that a Silent Hill FPS could be suitably scary too.
Survival horror can work well as a first-person game, as long as the emphasis isn't so much about shooting. Hellnight (Dark Messiah) is a good example.
I don't know... I think they should not leave the thrid person way on which Silent Hill was from the begin. It could end like Resident Evil Shooter on the Wii. It could ruin the series.
I just wanted the Silent Hill series to end on the interesting, inoffensive note that was Shattered Memories. I don't want there to be as many Silent Hill games as there are for Resident Evil.
The "FP" part sounds like an interesting refresh of the formula. It's that pesky "S" that worries me, and from the looks of these comments, I'm not alone in that.
Condemned showed that it can be done, and be pants-shittingly terrifying at the same time. And that series was (mostly) grounded in real-world situations and opponents. Silent Hill has to conform to no such limitations.
This feels an awful lot like the trepidation a lot of us felt when we first heard about the perspective shift that Nintendo was allowing Retro to try out for the first Metroid Prime. That turned out pretty well, if I may be allowed a massive understatement.
Here's hoping the new developer can grasp what makes Silent Hill "Silent Hill."
Condemned showed that it can be done, and be pants-shittingly terrifying at the same time. And that series was (mostly) grounded in real-world situations and opponents. Silent Hill has to conform to no such limitations.
This feels an awful lot like the trepidation a lot of us felt when we first heard about the perspective shift that Nintendo was allowing Retro to try out for the first Metroid Prime. That turned out pretty well, if I may be allowed a massive understatement.
Here's hoping the new developer can grasp what makes Silent Hill "Silent Hill."
While I dont think its the proper direction to go Silent Hill is supposed to be able to adapt to the person it is, in a sense, 'haunting'. So, say some soldiers saunter into town on some mission I'm sure a decent story writer could work that one out. Have Silent Hill going all combat flashbacks and super scary/tough monsters on them. I'm mostly thinking of the comics here where Silent Hill seems way more hostile at times than in the games.
Buuut, I'm talking crazy talk. I doubt they could get that right.
Buuut, I'm talking crazy talk. I doubt they could get that right.
...And will have motion controller support! also will be streamed to the casual gaming audience!!! YEAH BRING IT PLEASE![/sarcasm]
Even though this doesn't sound like my cup of tea, I don't mind a little experimentation from time to time...as long as there will eventually be another REAL Silent Hill game.
People should get so hung up on shooter mechanics. This is mainly about a first person perspective, and personally, I think first person perspectives are great because everything is much more in-your-face, which is nice for a horror game. Third person perspectives are nice for games where you need a good idea of where your character is in the game world, like platformers, or RPGs where you want to see your character interact with the world, but the perspective also distances from the experience. Mirror's Edge, flawed though it may be, certainly gives me a far more intense platforming experience than say, Assassins Creed. Fatal Frame certainly works well as a first person horror game.
I think it's fucking stupid they didnt give a new, HD silent hill to Climax games. They've certainly earned the right in my opinion. Shattered Memories was the best one I have played in a while.
Jim, there's nothing the series can do to, as you said, "regain it's position." That distinction went away when the original team broke up. What the series needs isn't change, that's what made the last three games such hard sales. The series needs the original team and a closer approximation of the original gameplay. Granted, that isn't going to happen, but making it into an fps isn't going to make it any better, it's just going to make it even less like the original games that were so great. What they need to do is retired the Silent Hill name, not go fucking with the winning formula that made the games good way back. I mean, if I play a Silent Hill game, it's because I want to play Silent Hill, not Bioshock or Condemned or something.
Because the world needs more first person shooters when we only see one released every week that is only marginally if at all different from the rest of the genre.
Now Silent Hill can do the Condemned/SH 4 when in the apartment thing and just stay in first person when exploring that would be fine but a real FPS would make me cry. Nothing like seeing one of your favorite franchise raped by bad ideas. Seriously not strong enough profanity in the English language to express my hate of this if it comes to pass.
Now Silent Hill can do the Condemned/SH 4 when in the apartment thing and just stay in first person when exploring that would be fine but a real FPS would make me cry. Nothing like seeing one of your favorite franchise raped by bad ideas. Seriously not strong enough profanity in the English language to express my hate of this if it comes to pass.
is it just me, or did they already do an awesome franchise reboot that significantly changed the gameplay without changing any of what made the series good? You know, cut out all the shitty combat that bogged the franchise down while still maintaining an intense atmosphere and challenging gameplay.
I believe it was called Shattered Memories or something. They should do that again.
I believe it was called Shattered Memories or something. They should do that again.
@Gamescook
I enjoyed Shattered Memories as well. It was thought-provoking and did quite a number of things well. The chase sequences were annoying but tolerable, because I was hooked by the story telling and psychological stuff. It was a ballsy change of direction (and I find it fascinating they managed to get a greenlight on such an artsy fartsy game) but I think it was ultimately a good choice.
Silent Hill 2 has been a blessing for the fans, it's a flat-out masterpiece for sure, but a curse for the developers. The bar was raised so high it's been impossible for them to execute anything even close to that quality with further installments. Shattered Memories is the series second-best in my opinion, but still doesn't even hold a candle to SH2.
I enjoyed Shattered Memories as well. It was thought-provoking and did quite a number of things well. The chase sequences were annoying but tolerable, because I was hooked by the story telling and psychological stuff. It was a ballsy change of direction (and I find it fascinating they managed to get a greenlight on such an artsy fartsy game) but I think it was ultimately a good choice.
Silent Hill 2 has been a blessing for the fans, it's a flat-out masterpiece for sure, but a curse for the developers. The bar was raised so high it's been impossible for them to execute anything even close to that quality with further installments. Shattered Memories is the series second-best in my opinion, but still doesn't even hold a candle to SH2.
call of cthulu dark corners of the earth was a first person survival horror. It was very good imo. Im sure silent hill can do it too.
I'm one of "those" people that already gave up on the series. I haven't finished a SH since SH3 (though I'm dying to play Shattered Memories), and I think there really isn't anything that can be done to revive the series. Sure, turn it into a FPS. I'm not interested, but if it turns out good more power to you.
fuck please no! anyway silent hill its fuck up so i really dont give a shit if the release silent hill kart or somekinda shit like that
I'm actually thinking that the horror genre may be more suited for the First Person (Shooter or not) genre. I mean, just look at what a deep, suspenseful, atmospheric game like Bioshock offers.
The only problem is that someone going into Silent Hill shouldn't be a pro gunslinger, pulling off headshots left and right.. I propose a handicap. Perhaps, at the beginning of the game, your crossair is extremely wide... like you'd have difficult time aiming as a noob at shooting would, so you might be likely to avoid some combat like the series is known for. Add some light RPG elements to enhance abilities such as shooting (aka narrowing the crossair) and I think you'd have a game that works.
The only problem is that someone going into Silent Hill shouldn't be a pro gunslinger, pulling off headshots left and right.. I propose a handicap. Perhaps, at the beginning of the game, your crossair is extremely wide... like you'd have difficult time aiming as a noob at shooting would, so you might be likely to avoid some combat like the series is known for. Add some light RPG elements to enhance abilities such as shooting (aka narrowing the crossair) and I think you'd have a game that works.
holy cow, I think they made a very poor choice labeling it as an "FPS" in the way that they did because I'm hoping they mean atmospheric first person perspective and not running through DM_SPOOKY_HOSPITAL.BSP with my sawed off and frag grenades.
Jesus talk about reaction-bait!
Jesus talk about reaction-bait!
I could be wrong here, but I think Alan Wake is the new Silent Hill, so Silent Hill needs to be the new Condemned.
My initial reaction to this was disgust. But then considering the fact that Echo Night and CoC:Dark Corners (heck even FEAR and Condemned) had sections which were by far some of the scariest in gaming history this move isn't tentatively the worst idea ever.
"I'm actually thinking that the horror genre may be more suited for the First Person (Shooter or not) genre. I mean, just look at what a deep, suspenseful, atmospheric game like Bioshock offers."
Exactly, I thought of the first Bioshock as well.
I don't know if Silent Hill needs 'a drastic change'. Today, that's usually a euphemism for a MP-heavy, 5 hour single-player campaign with incredibly striped down gameplay. 'Silent Hill' does need a good freaking game in the series to refresh interest, something it hasn't had in awhile. There's nothing about FPS that says that it has to play like Quake. First-person exploration in a exploration-heavy series is a pretty good idea. Instead of a drawn-back 3rd person camera angle that allows you to always see action around the character, the player's view is restricted to the game avatar's 'eyes'. Hear a noise to the side, and the player will have to frantically turn left and right to catch a glimpse of whatever horror is lurking in the shadows, a real opportunity for great scares/audio work. To me, that's even more 'horror-immersive' than 3rd person perspective. You can have slow-paced combat that doesn't even have to be the highlight.
Exactly, I thought of the first Bioshock as well.
I don't know if Silent Hill needs 'a drastic change'. Today, that's usually a euphemism for a MP-heavy, 5 hour single-player campaign with incredibly striped down gameplay. 'Silent Hill' does need a good freaking game in the series to refresh interest, something it hasn't had in awhile. There's nothing about FPS that says that it has to play like Quake. First-person exploration in a exploration-heavy series is a pretty good idea. Instead of a drawn-back 3rd person camera angle that allows you to always see action around the character, the player's view is restricted to the game avatar's 'eyes'. Hear a noise to the side, and the player will have to frantically turn left and right to catch a glimpse of whatever horror is lurking in the shadows, a real opportunity for great scares/audio work. To me, that's even more 'horror-immersive' than 3rd person perspective. You can have slow-paced combat that doesn't even have to be the highlight.
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