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Rumor: Project Milo shelved, Fable Kinect game coming photo

Lionhead Studio's "game" that was probably just really always a tech demo anyhow, Project Milo, has been shelved, according to a source speaking with Eurogamer.

Word is that the project was shut down earlier this week, with 19 contractors hired to work on the project laid off. In its place, it's said that technology from Milo will be used in the development of a "Fable-themed Kinect game."

The history of "what's up with Milo?" has been a sketchy one. Lionhead's Peter Molyneux demoed the game during the initial reveal period of Microsoft's motion control tech. After some silence, Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg seemingly confirmed it was a tech demo, later to be contradicted by the publisher who itself who claimed it was a product slated for a holiday release.

What's the stance now? "Microsoft does not comment on rumor or speculation."

Rumor: Project Milo cancelled?
[Eurogamer]








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Woody1988's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:10
Woody1988
That's a shame. When Milo was first shown, that was the one game i wanted kinnect for. Now we'll just have a game of empty promises from Molyneux.
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:15
Strandli
It was impossible for them to live up to what they showed when Kinect was first shown. No-one can honestly think that a small studio like Lionhead could create the world's most advanced artificial intelligence, with a voice and animated face, on a 199$ machine with a web camera and microphone hooked up to it?

Even if they did, it wouldn't be much of a game...
I think this is for the best, and I don't find this surprising at all.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:15
Sexualchocolate
People should keep a special pot of SALT by their computer for whenever Molyneux says ANYTHING.
Zantetsuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:20
Zantetsuken
Strandli pretty much summed it up.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:23
Gorescream
'dat azz'
OWENR22's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:24
OWENR22
WOOOO!! Fable on rails!! YEAH!!
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:25
Bakewell
I like Molyeux, he reminds me of a guy at the pub I drink in who took too much acid in his early twenties.
Full of shit but hilarious to listen to.

@strandli
"No-one can honestly think that a small studio like Lionhead could create the world's most advanced artificial intelligence, with a voice and animated face, on a 199$ machine with a web camera and microphone hooked up to it"

Why? We sent men to the moon on far less powerful equipment than an xbox 360.
Nyktharas's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:26
Nyktharas
@Nick

A "tech demo" would consist of programming.

All this looked like to me, and many others all along was a staged series of video's to promote "hype" for the possibilities of Kinect.

That, and what Strandli said.
smoger's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:30
smoger
..and seaman lives as the most interactive... interactive thing to ever live inside a game console.
Calibre53's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:31
Calibre53
I'm not surprised at all.

@Bakewell

Yeah, but Molyneux wasn't in charge of the space program. Therein the problem lies.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:37
Occams electric toothbrush
Well this isn't a big loss for me. I wouldn't want a game where some dead-eyed kid just stares at me waiting for me to tell him how to be. If I wanted that, I'd just hold court at the Hot Topic in the mall.
Darckcloud723's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:37
Darckcloud723
So we get a fable game were we get to flip-off AI and can co-op with friends and have some real awkward moments ( remember that achiment I brought up the other day for fable 3)
Romo Metaxxas's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:38
Romo Metaxxas
We should not be surprised. Milo was just merely smoke and mirrors in order to sell the dubious Kinect technology. This just shows Move has more substance in its technology. Sony has shown they've done motion controls the right and eun way.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:42
Bakewell
@romo
"Nintendo has shown they've done motion controls the right and eun way."

Fixed that for you buddy, no need to thank me.
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:44
Strandli
@Bakewell:
You're honestly comparing Moleneux, Milo and Kinect with a "mild budget", to people going to the moon? Seriously?!

If artificial intelligence was possible today, someone other than Lionhead would have come up with it first. 360 isn't the only "powerful" machine today, if a 360 could do it, then so would any computer sold in the recent years. Even the military (or anyone else) has technology which is close to what Moleneux described 2 years (?) ago.

If a technological breakthrough like this happens, it won't be on the 360, or any other home gaming console.
Zepinephrine's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:45
Zepinephrine
Milo is still alive, locked away in Molyneux's closet, being used to satisfy his darkest desires.

freak
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:45
Sexualchocolate
Romo is right, but Milo was smoke and mirrors to sell NATAL not KINECT. For all we know, Milo works with NATAL but not it's retarded little brother KINECT.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:48
Bakewell
@strandli

I was just saying that fantastic things can be born from simple ingredients. Chill out mate.
Darckcloud723's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:49
Darckcloud723
@ romo- the move has only been out for like a week and no one has throne out there wii for it. ( to be honest I'am looking at one but I'll wait for some real games to come out and with kinect that looks like a much longer wait)
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 09:56
Strandli
@Bakewell:
Well, you did ask why ;) And comparing Moleneux's work to the moon landing is a bit extreme no matter what :p

I've seen incredible things from "simple ingredients", but A.I like that wouldn't be possible on home equipment just yet, we are still struggling with getting an intelligent text-only intelligence. There are some, but not that good.
Perro's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 10:11
Perro
Eh, it was the only kinect game that looked worthwhile. Better it be shelved, though, cause I imagine there'd be a lot of virtual child abuse in game from players.
Darckcloud723's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 10:13
Darckcloud723
@ perro - would I get jail time for it?
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 11:02
Max-
Looks like Josef Fritzl will be preordering 1 game less!
Gol-D-Roger's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 11:11
Gol-D-Roger
This should surprise no one.
Neroisonfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 11:16
Neroisonfire
Bakewell, AI and a rocket ship are totally different things. I don't agree with the other guy, but man... I can't believe you said that.

Anyways. Hooray fable on rails. Seriously, is a good stand alone game even possible with kinect alone?
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 11:21
BalloonFighter
Ouch. I guess the future isn't now. Excpect at least one half assed Milo inspired game from another company though. It will happen.
Zantetsuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 11:23
Zantetsuken
@BalloonFighter
We already have Kinectimals
Romo Metaxxas's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 11:33
Romo Metaxxas
This does not bode well for Kinect. Its already shaky at best. The Move is the way to go for a HD motion control system. I think with Move proving itself to gamers, it'll entince new Playstation 3 owners.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 11:42
Bakewell
@Nero

Learn to read. I made it VERY clear that i was high lighting the ability to create something incredible from a simple thing. It was more a comment on mans abilities to succeed rather than your perceived "hurr hurr rocket ships and ai".

@romo

How does this not bode well for kinect when, at a time when you believed it would be released, it wouldn't bode well for kinect. Are you suggesting that whether it was released or not it wouldn't be a good thing?
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 11:48
Bakewell
@romo

Just checked sales figures for move.

Seems 140,000 isn't as epic as you are making out, especially seeing as Sony has sold 38 million ps3 units.
koehler83's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 11:56
koehler83
@Bakewell

You have no idea how many units Sony has put to market. Supply seems to be short across the continent. Sales figures are irrelevant.

It seems Sony is taking a practical angle with Move distribution. Similar to how Atlus handles their publishing. Just a bit at a time. Allow stock to sell through then replenish stock again. This minimizes the risk while maximizing revenue
Romo Metaxxas's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 11:59
Romo Metaxxas
@koehler83
That's true. Sony is playing it safe with the distribution of Move. Let the ones who have it spread the good word of mouth to the others and build up more demand. Good job Sony.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:01
Bakewell
@Koehler

I see your point but it might be worth telling that to nintendo. You couldn't get a wii around where I live for about 6 months, as soon as they came in they were gone again.

I was in my nearest game shop an hour ago and there was an abundance of Moves on sale.

I'm not slating the move, I'm just pointing out to our resident Sony PR man that what he is saying is fictitious and delusional.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:05
Bakewell
@romo

If the product was as good as your bosses tell you it is it would be sold out.

If we go by your assumption that Sony are holding back units to sell until word of mouth convinces people it's good then Sony are up shit creek without a canoe, let alone a paddle.

Sony have faith in their product. They aren't holding back units as a sales stratergy, it's simply a case of most people who wanted motion controlled gaming already have a wii. The same will happen with Kinect
Romo Metaxxas's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:08
Romo Metaxxas
@Bakewell
well you may not be slating yet you seem to be negative on it when the gaming media are positive on the Move. C'mon, as a gamer, you should be open to new gaming trends. That's what part of gaming is.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:11
Bakewell
@romo

I see nothing new with the move. I'm not slating it either. I'm 100% sure that if you didnt already own a wii and had a ps3 with the inclination for
Motion control then you're in for a treat but Sony and Microsoft are a little late to the ball game.

It's not me you need to tell this pish to romo, it's all the ps3 users who haven't bought it.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:13
SayWord
@bakewell that's weird dude, in Toronto I can't find it in any best buy or fututeshops all sold out, hell even eb games I had to go to a few stores to get my extra controller. @koehler you make perfect snese bro everyone I know has the move and loves the hell out of it, I work part time at best buy and since release that's usually what everyone is talking about. Positive word of mouth is going to sell a lot of move.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:16
Bakewell
@patriot snake

I have a deep, deep aversion to sales people.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:17
SayWord
@bakewell I see nothing new with 80 percent of games that come out these days lol. Mostly everything is a copy of something else. What sony did was improve on the already successful move and they did one hell of a job. To boycott move and kinect is to like boycott almost every new rpg, hack and slash, first person shooter to me I don't understand your logic.
Neroisonfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:18
Neroisonfire
@bakewell, it wasn't computers that got us to the moon. I guess I shouldn't be surprised when people hear how only big places like NASA had computers back then an they weren't as good as our cheapest pcs. I wasn't there but I know there's nothing those computers could do that they couldn't do with paper and pencil. Computers just made life a little
easier.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:18
SayWord
To improve on the already successfull wii* hah my bad
Romo Metaxxas's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:21
Romo Metaxxas
@Bakewell
C'mon. We're gamers. Why the hate? So i am the resident Sony PR, because i appreciate what Sony is doing with The Playstation 3 and the Move? So be it. I guess i m sort of that..haha. Spreading positive news about the Playstation 3 because its a really good system and doesn't deserve the hate, from some of the people here.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:25
Bakewell
@sayword

I mentioned no boycott.

What I am saying is (and what should be clear to anybody who can read) is that romo is full of PR spin and crap.

Ask yourself this. If Sony had spent millions creating move, why would they slowly drip feed the peripheral to consumers and wait for other people to say how good it is? This generations console wars is rabid, sales figures are the new deities to be worshipped. Does it not make sense to put sa many units out for sales and profit, just as every game manufacturer has done with all of their products?

Nope. Let's release a few and sell our stuff via word of mouth!!!

@romo

There not a single molecule of hate in me for any of the things you say. Confusion? Yes. Disbelief? You better believe it! A strong sense to call you out everytime you spout insane shit? Without a doubt.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:25
SayWord
@romo I'm a playstation fanboy myself and I understand what you are trying to say, but if you were a real gamer you wouldn't just limit yourself to one console. To be honest its getting old, you comment on every article demanding that the ps3 is the best can't you just comment on the article like everyone else does? You are pretty much asking for example bakewell to lash out on you.
cult.ref's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:29
cult.ref
Wow a "fable themed" kinect game. Really? when I think AI and Lionhead I think Black & White but I guess thats just old news now? :(
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:30
SayWord
@bakewell sorry for assuming man I just thought you didn't want move or kinect because they are similar to the wii. And as for how they market or pusht he product, who cares how they do it lol. We aint working for microsoft or sony so we don't gotta worry about how much they sell, we should worry more about how the product works, am I right? If the product is ace people will buy it, now the move might not have as strong as a lineup as most people would want but the nove is hella precise and is fantastic hardware, it will sell.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:34
RenegadePanda
The minute the word 'themed' is added to anything, I generally lose interest.

That roughly translates to 'shovelware title with the art style and general aesthetic of a AAA title to lure you into thinking the game might actually be good.'

It's true, look it up.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:36
Bakewell
@sayword

No probs dude. I may come across as a fanboy buy I'm multi console to the core.

I don't doubt the move will sell either, I just don't think it's the revolutionary device romo paints it to be.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2010 12:43
SayWord
@bakewell nothing romo or sofik88 should be taken as merit. Hah like as for sexual chocolate he at least tries to back up his claims and his comments are enjoyable, sofik and romo are just blind love and hate.
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