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If it's as Kinect-centric as the 360 right now, I ain't picking it up for a long while. I'll be happy with a PS4 and Wii U. However this is all based on extremely limited knowledge of the next generation.
Ugh, where's E3 when you need it?
Ugh, where's E3 when you need it?
Doubt it , for only the fact they have to realize
Not everyone has Internet , and not everyone's Internet is good enough to handle such a thing.
Not to mention there's no plan b if something happens, did your servers go down, did you get hacked? There goes your people's only way to buy new games , I'm sure your stockholders and business partners will LOVE to hear that.
Not everyone has Internet , and not everyone's Internet is good enough to handle such a thing.
Not to mention there's no plan b if something happens, did your servers go down, did you get hacked? There goes your people's only way to buy new games , I'm sure your stockholders and business partners will LOVE to hear that.
I think a lot of people (myself included) are confused about what exactly solid-state card storage is.
Is it still physical media?
I can’t imagine them going all digital, all those millions of people who buy CoD every year, the casual market they’re desperate for with Kinect, these people don’t do digital.
Is it still physical media?
I can’t imagine them going all digital, all those millions of people who buy CoD every year, the casual market they’re desperate for with Kinect, these people don’t do digital.
It would be completely impossible for next gen systems to rely completely on digital downloads. Internet bandwidth would need to increase dramatically across the planet before it would be feasible.
Take a game launch like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3. If you have all of the people that bought that game at midnight instead downloading that onto their digital download consoles with bandwidth as it is today, servers would MELT.
There are far too many limitations at this time for any discless home console to seem like a reality.
Take a game launch like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3. If you have all of the people that bought that game at midnight instead downloading that onto their digital download consoles with bandwidth as it is today, servers would MELT.
There are far too many limitations at this time for any discless home console to seem like a reality.
Yeah, disks are on their way out, if I had to make such a guess. We see UMDs being replaced by micro SDs on the Sony handheld. I just bought a couple 16 Gb micro SDs for $6 on Amazon--ok +$5 S&H, still $12 for 16 Gb isn't bad--all on something the size of a fingernail.
Point being, disks are no longer an efficient storage medium, so unless we see disk capacities multiplied 10-fold, at least, Blu-Ray will probably be the last of the generation. Even then, disk readers have moving parts that can break, so one less worry with SD readers.
Whenever I use a disk, it really feels like a dying breed in the world of 2 TB hard drives.
Point being, disks are no longer an efficient storage medium, so unless we see disk capacities multiplied 10-fold, at least, Blu-Ray will probably be the last of the generation. Even then, disk readers have moving parts that can break, so one less worry with SD readers.
Whenever I use a disk, it really feels like a dying breed in the world of 2 TB hard drives.
Waitwaitwait - people say that Nintendo's behind the console race because of its refusal to adopt the disc format - now MS is reported to use "solid-state" storage?
@OneRed
It's a deal. Now make me some funny comments, dammit!
aaaanyways, I personally think I'm gonna skip out on Microsoft's next console and go with PS4, Wii U, and build a gaming PC. Especially if the first design has a high failure rate and propriety HDD's. my hard drive died on me and I have no way of fixing it myself. I have to go through the shitty customer service shit and see what they can do.
It's a deal. Now make me some funny comments, dammit!
aaaanyways, I personally think I'm gonna skip out on Microsoft's next console and go with PS4, Wii U, and build a gaming PC. Especially if the first design has a high failure rate and propriety HDD's. my hard drive died on me and I have no way of fixing it myself. I have to go through the shitty customer service shit and see what they can do.
The format that the follow-up to the 360 will use will be human turds. You just poop into the machine and play with it. because just like the 360, their next system will be poop!
@GrimmTrixX
Bullshit that it is their right to prevent something they sold you from being resold. What the hell is wrong with you? Didn't you get an education or did your teachers fail to teach you about first-sale doctrine? Perhaps you live in a place where droit de suite exists?
It wouldn't surprise me if microsoft does a digital only format, but I don't see it working out well for them. It'll just get worse from then on, though. There are still plenty of 360s that are never plugged into the internet and MS would be shutting out those customers.
Solid state mediums work well in those small card formats, and they've been around long enough to become cheap, but people pretending that their new Xbox will have a 1TB SSD is silly. MS wouldn't even throw in a free 20GB for 360s and had them non-standard. 1TB SSD would be expensive as hell and unlikely to be included since consoles never use high-end technology. They hover around the mid to low range. We'd probably see a 300GB if it will be SSD.
@Fuzunga
It isn't really moving "backwards". Technology for solid state mediums back then wasn't easy to shrink and required lots of plastic shelling to protect the sensitive parts of the medium. This also added to the cost. Carts back then had extremely small amounts of memory, and if you wanted to go bigger, the price would increase. Optical mediums gave a huge increase over then-current SSDs. These days, SSDs are getting easier to shrink and be improved, and that's why they are thinner and require less plastic to shell. SSDs read and write very fast but can still have problems, but are definitely cheaper compared to the past 2 decades.
Anyway, as I said before, MS was pretty cheap with their hardware in 05, I'm sure they'd be just as cheap for whenever they bring out their newest system and not include a large SSD, if it does include one. It'd probably be an HDD since it'd be cheap, and they can sell you a proprietary one again.
Bullshit that it is their right to prevent something they sold you from being resold. What the hell is wrong with you? Didn't you get an education or did your teachers fail to teach you about first-sale doctrine? Perhaps you live in a place where droit de suite exists?
It wouldn't surprise me if microsoft does a digital only format, but I don't see it working out well for them. It'll just get worse from then on, though. There are still plenty of 360s that are never plugged into the internet and MS would be shutting out those customers.
Solid state mediums work well in those small card formats, and they've been around long enough to become cheap, but people pretending that their new Xbox will have a 1TB SSD is silly. MS wouldn't even throw in a free 20GB for 360s and had them non-standard. 1TB SSD would be expensive as hell and unlikely to be included since consoles never use high-end technology. They hover around the mid to low range. We'd probably see a 300GB if it will be SSD.
@Fuzunga
It isn't really moving "backwards". Technology for solid state mediums back then wasn't easy to shrink and required lots of plastic shelling to protect the sensitive parts of the medium. This also added to the cost. Carts back then had extremely small amounts of memory, and if you wanted to go bigger, the price would increase. Optical mediums gave a huge increase over then-current SSDs. These days, SSDs are getting easier to shrink and be improved, and that's why they are thinner and require less plastic to shell. SSDs read and write very fast but can still have problems, but are definitely cheaper compared to the past 2 decades.
Anyway, as I said before, MS was pretty cheap with their hardware in 05, I'm sure they'd be just as cheap for whenever they bring out their newest system and not include a large SSD, if it does include one. It'd probably be an HDD since it'd be cheap, and they can sell you a proprietary one again.
Well my xbox 720 would look pretty feckin stupid sat on the shelf all by itself without any games to play. (ya know cos I dont buy digital.) Yeah anyway, I dont think they'd risk it. Too many gamers like me, and i'm certain most peeps who own xbox consoles dont even have them hooked up to the net anyway. My dad, sister and brother still are using the old blade dashboards. lol.
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Some of these reasons are why I will almost never buy digital products online.
This isn't about being a luddite. This is about consumer rights.
Any console that does away with physical games is not a console I want to buy.
Some of these reasons are why I will almost never buy digital products online.
This isn't about being a luddite. This is about consumer rights.
Any console that does away with physical games is not a console I want to buy.
If MS went this route then why in God's name wouldn't console gamers convert to pc gaming? Games are cheaper and better quality. For the price of launch consoles people could buy a gaming pc (those who are too dumb to build their own). Online is free. You can still your your controllers. You can still sit on the couch. And on and on...
Unless they truly are "contards".
Unless they truly are "contards".
@Redneck Ninja
Because paying $250 - $400 and then waiting five years is better than having to pay over $1000 for a nice computer and then consistently upgrading it every few months.
Also both the Wii and PS3 online services are free as well. Kindly take your massive head out of your pretentious ass.
Now if you have any LINKS to provide to whatever outlets you can use to get these "cheap mega-computers/parts," then by all means enlighten me.
Because paying $250 - $400 and then waiting five years is better than having to pay over $1000 for a nice computer and then consistently upgrading it every few months.
Also both the Wii and PS3 online services are free as well. Kindly take your massive head out of your pretentious ass.
Now if you have any LINKS to provide to whatever outlets you can use to get these "cheap mega-computers/parts," then by all means enlighten me.
Because paying $250 - $400 and then waiting five years is better than having to pay over $1000 for a nice computer and then consistently upgrading it every few months.
Every few months?! Do you know ANYTHING about gaming on PC? You're talking completely out your ass.
Every few months?! Do you know ANYTHING about gaming on PC? You're talking completely out your ass.
Good luck selling a console that you cannot get trade or refund on its software for.
Unless the games are directly transferable to PC, NO DEAL.
Unless the games are directly transferable to PC, NO DEAL.
Does anybody remember the Super Nintendo? N64? All you had to do was buy the console and a few games. Stick the game in, turn the console on, and *BOOM*! You were in the game.
I miss that. I don't like the current philosophy that everything should do everything, and I most certainly don't want my Xbox to do that either. And that means I don't want it to prevent me from playing games.
Xbox64... If only it were true.
I miss that. I don't like the current philosophy that everything should do everything, and I most certainly don't want my Xbox to do that either. And that means I don't want it to prevent me from playing games.
Xbox64... If only it were true.
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