Umm, I'm fairly sure my Premium does 1080p through component...

As for HD-Audio, I downloaded The Matrix in HD yesterday and it had pro logic soundtrack.. FFS, I can download it for free with DTS so wtf MS?

Yeah, I agree with MaxVest and the others who have noted that it doesn’t make sense for MS to announce a new SKU now and say it won’t be out for 8–10 months. I still don’t see any reason for them to put an HD DVD drive in the damn unit, considering they wouldn’t put games out on the format (that would obviously piss off everyone who didn’t have the “Ultimate” model). Also, why would they come out with something that’s priced higher than the PS3’s lower-priced configuration?

Wouldn't it be cool if this box is actually intended to be an option for cable companies.

Instead of them installing one of their own set top boxes for their cable systems, they could offer instead a 360 like this one which not only does HD-DVD's, but also IPTV and DVR and Games. With all the features of the 360, I could see where that could be possible. But then again, everyone is so greedy that the royalties/licensing fees would be setup so that cable companies would want to do their own thing as usual...

Like i said before, its gonna be cooler chipset and a price drop! Makes no sense to release a new SKU with HD-DVD especially when MS are all for downloads etc!! You gys are dumb! Maybe a bigger HDD will be realesed too for all those new films we got in the UK and Europe.

What is this gaming era all about, when we get remixed versions of consoles or something. It used to be you'd buy a console and it's abilities never changed for the entire run, unless you added a peripheral to it, but that was rare and often failed. The most they'd do is change the outter covering and call it like - The Sega Genesis mark II or something, but nowadays they're revamping systems, like they gave it to Xzibit on Pimp my Rides. WTF I mean, I have to buy the system again? This is crazy. Bill thinks consoles are computers or something. Where they evolve every few years.

SWEET!!!

I dunno, I'm no expert, but before buying my TV. I did my homework as best I could. I know that 1080p isn't as widely supported yet and some say you can't tell the difference, but what I did notice. After having so many store clerks test out TVs for me. Is how the 1080p models. At least the LCD ones I saw, had no breakup in the picture when fast motion or quick action and explosions occured. Now I don't know if 1080p had anything to do with this, I did watch 1080i on 1080p sets and still no breakup, yet the 720p's all had pixelazation, blocky artifacts occuring when any fast motion occured. So basically what I noticed is, no 1080p models I saw did this, but the 720p models did. That's when I was sold on 1080p.

I didn't catch the part where it has a web browser. What, you mean it doesn't? Hell, even the Wii does. It kinda sucks, but at least it's there.

It's pretty sad that iPods and cell phones got built-in wifi before the Xbox did.

@SkaGoblin, didnt madCatz release a HDMI cable for all versions of the 360?? think they did.

@orionsaint 720p should be a smoother picture than 1080i as it draws twice, if there was break up it shoul dbe on the interlaced model...just the way it works.....

i have a samsung 1080i LCD i cant notice the difference between 720p and 1080i so i lef tit on 1080i, looks great..

@cyyocide theres no webbrowser as its connected to live servers not the www, if you open it to the web you are gonna have to do what PS3 is thinking about....antivrus....slowdown will entail! You have a pc for the web, stick with it!

I know there making and replacing broken 360 with 3ROD with ones that run quieter and don't cook the consoles components. But to throw all this shit into basically the same console is a massive pile of shit. If its the case then they can take my current xbox 360 and replace it with this new one. I dont think they will do it considering they have got a HD-DVD player add on out, they must be dumb to make their own products obsolete.

Just wait for your current 360 to 3ROD and then they will probably send you a updated one. Thats what im hoping for, if not then...

"Hello Mr. GAME, yeah id like to buy a PS3.... oh and trade in 20 360 games and a the 300£ worth of accessories and console. SOOOO how much i owe you for the PS3? 300£!! WHAT THE FUCK!"

"god damn it...
microsoft is becoming the new nintendo with all their hardware revisions..."

Don't you mean they're becoming the new Sony?

Also, will live be fixed by the time this comes out?

Maxvest's logic seems pretty spot on.

Though I wouldn't mind having this unit.

Hey man, don't worry about that cure for cancer. See, when they finally find it, they'll inject it into everyone but it will either kill the host or give them rabies-like symptoms and turn them into zombie freaks that burn in the sunlight.

Of course, Will Smith probably saves the world in an act of sacrifice so...ya know.

lol @ Rpg_Worshiper's I Am Legend reference.

Also, M$ should fucking realize that hardware is not like software with yearly revisions. i bet they're doing this for those early adopters who're out of RRoD warranty.

Whats the bloody point? I mean this is a kick in the teeth for those who bought the 'Elite'. I have a 'Premium, and yeah, I like it. (I still play EDF2017 and Crackdown to death!)
Purely copying what the PS3 is capable of is shameful, at least PS3 manages to get you online for free (including gaming, I refuse to pay for online gaming through 'Live as I won't always be using it.), with built in Wlan. You could say the PS3 copied the Wii (with Sixasis), but didn't XBOX (1) copy the PS2? Everyone always takes elements of consoles onto others (The Xbox pad is similar to the DC's layout)
Microsoft ain't nothing but a bunch of money grabbing, opportunity waiting sods. Why did they even bother bringing out the Elite if this is on the way?
At this rate, how on earth are they going to bring out a 8th Gen console later on?

wtf is the point of the elite, if this is true

You know whats funny? All the stories of Red Rings Of Death..... I guarentee you, find an old SNES in a dumpster somewhere, hook that shit up, plug it in, and turn it on. That shit will start up no problem. Super Nintendo was fucking invincible. I'm no fanboy but Ive never even heard of a Nintendo product just randomly dying. Take that for what its worth.

I got ann Xbox and thats good enough form me.

@Orionsaint

Theres a lot of factors that could affect why HDTV may vary from show to Show. it could be that some shows/stations use higher compression rates than other, some may use better equipment, and some stations broadcast in 720p while others are in 1080i. also, unless you're watching the digital hi def ABC station, you'll just get the analog 480i signal upscaled and deinterlaced, which looks like crap on HDTVs

I dont know why they point out 1080p all 360's can do 1080p some require particular TV's for 1080p over component but can most definitely over the vga connecter(so admitadly this is not an option for everyone)but all the ones with hdmi can. I dont use HDMI so not sure what kind of audio can be transfered over that I seem to have heard something that it is not the super high end uber audio porn that the hardcore hometheater users want on the current units.

I don't have an issue with the MS sku's cause they dont forget what they are at there core, a games system. Adding features people want is one thing taking them away is another. I do take issues with the SKU's on the PS3 cause they take funtionality away and looking at releases over seas it seems that this may be a perminate trend(I hope not) I have a 60 GB model with full BC but if I ever have to replace it I dont want to lose funtionality(I bought my system when the upscaling came out I value the feature not to mention the CD drawer on my PS2 was sticking so it was not long for this world)

I just got my replacement 360 back about 30 minutes ago. yes the red lights of death again. starting the process again. yes eat shit and die microsoft!

"We’ve already had the Xbox 360 Premium and Elite. Both are, of course, fine gaming machines with the best games catalogue in the next-gen field. But come autumn 2008, we predict both will be rendered obsolete by a new model. We'll call it the Xbox Ultimate."
Sure, they may be acting like they know something, but they're putting way too much shit into that idea anyway. I call major bullshit for shooting for the stars and the bolded word above.

LOL, at the loser with a glittery HD TV, did they run out of pink?

Someone please end this HD war so I can move on with my life and finally enjoy movies again!

@SkaGoblin,

My 47" LG LCD does 1080p over component @ 60Hz - and my Xbox 360, which has the component leads, gives me the option to support a 1080p TV.

I know there's industry "guidelines" or whatever to keep 1080p stuff limited to HDMI/HDCP but doesn't seem to be the case.