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Rumor: Isaac gets a mean new friend in Dead Space 3 photo

A new report has revealed that Dead Space protagonist Isaac Clarke is going to be even less sane than usual in the not-quite-confirmed Dead Space 3. He's getting a new personality, while keeping the old one, and his two halves aren't going to be friends. 

Isaac's secondary personality, currently referred to as Shadow Isaac, is going to be an unpleasant chap who revels in reminding Isaac about his failures. He'll appear as a secondary character, and will engage in a number of verbal jousts with the hero. 

The old "split personality" premise is a hackneyed one, but it's one of my favorite tropes, so I'm quite looking forward to seeing what Visceral does. I hope it factors into the gameplay somehow, with Shadow Isaac vying for physical control. Whatever happens, I'm excited to see it. Dead Space is my jam. 

Isaac Clarke, You’ve Changed In Dead Space 3 [Siliconera]








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Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:36
Tristrix
I gotta say, I like how Visceral is at least attempting to show the consequences of everything poor Isaac has been through. Way too many games have the protagonist murdering his way through thousands of people and facing all sorts of nightmarish whatevers (I'm looking at you Nathan Drake but I still love you) and coming out of it perfectly happy-go-lucky.

Isaac, on the other hand, was a broken down husk in DS2 and I expect him to be completely wrecked in the next installment. In fact, frankly, he really needs to die in this one.
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:37
ikiryou
Maybe Dark Samus can make a cameo? They can battle the very-likely-to-be-included/requisite vagina dentata monster together.
Henriquegds's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:39
Henriquegds
Would be awesome if Isaac (from Binding of Isaac) appear in the game, just like Super Meat Boy on Dead Space 2
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:44
Fugly Duckling
I would rather have a crazed Isaac antagonist and control Ellie for Dead Space 3 than Semi-Evil Shadow Isaac. Shadow Isaac just sounds a bit too much like PoP: Twin Thrones for my taste. That being said, Visceral's done a great job with series so far, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:44
Rammstein
SON OF A BITCH! #SPOILER TAGS BRO.
TheGoldenMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:45
TheGoldenMonkey
As long as they can go back to the horror of the first one and combine it with the "oh shit the dude I'm playing as is nuts for real" of the 2nd game I'll be good.
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:46
Jawmuncher
Dude this would be perfect to incorpate the unique coop from Psi-ops.
You guys know what im talking about if you have played it. If you haven't then you're just a jerk.
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:47
ProperlyParanoid
I'm with you Jim, the split personality trope may be overdone, but I like it a lot, and when it works, it really works.

I think the Dark Prince in Prince Of Persia: Two Thrones is a great example: it was a nice way of dealing with the mess the was Warrior Within (tone-wise), he was a charming yet creepy character, and his presence allowed for a lot of new gameplay possibilities, and we all know that story in games truly shine when they're related to the gameplay.

I'm hoping the next Dead Space will feature something just as good (never even finished the first game, but I just know in a few years I'll go back and finish the all the games).
Brian Green's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:47
Brian Green
well hopefully i will be able to play deadspace 3
deadspace 2 gave me massive migranes that lasted for 2 days after only 30-45 minutes of game play ... ive never had a game do that to me or a 3ds or movie or anything of the sort
really sucked cuz i couldnt even play passed like the 2nd level so hopefully whatever it was they change it for Deadspace 3
Maniac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:50
Maniac
Issac's failures? I'm not an expert on Dead Space lore (I played and beat both games) but I'm pretty sure its not his fault the Marker turned the entire crew of both games into space monsters. I'd point out how everything that DOES go wrong in game isn't Issac's fault either but that would be revealing spoilers.
Brian Green's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:52
Brian Green
@Rammstein
SPOILERS! Issac is gona fight space alien zombie creatures and be insane


psh dumbass
thats like crying NO SPOILERS! for someone telling you there were going to be zombies in the original resident evil
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:53
Tristrix
@Brian Green

Wow, that's weird. Only that one game. How come?
comicretard's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:55
comicretard
Dead Space is MY jam, Jim! Damn you!
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 21:57
Epic-Kx
Jak/Dark Jak.
TheRedComet's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 22:00
TheRedComet
Whoever said Two Thrones, you get a cookie. That game was fantastic in every way.
SpacemanRoo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 22:00
SpacemanRoo
I hope Ellie comes back in this one. I know I'm probably hoping for too much, but I'd love to see Vandal show back up.
DelayedPiano's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 22:03
DelayedPiano
Sounds awesome
themizarkshow's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 22:05
themizarkshow
Although that kinda makes me wary, it really does fit the story they're going with for DeadSpace... so hopefully they treat it as carefully as they have everything else thus far and make it kick ass.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 22:09
KingSigy
Do it like Two Thrones and make Shadow Isaac stronger, but constantly losing health. That made a lot of platforming sections incredible in the third Prince of Persia game.
J Dizzly's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 22:27
J Dizzly
They pulled off his (spoilers!!! Lol) dead girlfriend being in his head in the 2nd one extremely well IMO. The scene where they both sit down in a hallway(?) and have a conversation was pretty effective. I loved that scene. Not exactly an evil alt-issac but still in the same realm of mental craziness. I am excited for this :)
KaL YoshiKa's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 22:30
KaL YoshiKa
While barely skating around spoilers here isn't this basically already done but with another figment of Isaac's imagination.

Also they should really consider dropping Isaac for a game and truly revisiting the Extraction crew for a longer time span.
Gamerwhosucks's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 22:52
Gamerwhosucks
I think we're about to say without a SHADOW of doubt that this will be ENLIGHTENING... Nah, but at least they're taking this seriously, while I love stories that have a happy ending, I think a crappy ending would be perfect for this series... Anyway I gotta get around to Dead Space 2, is it any good?
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 23:30
Los255
DEAD SPACE 3 IS SECRETLY FIGHT CLUB 2 CONFIRMED.
Noir's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 23:31
Noir
Shadow Isaac? Seems a bit silly, but I should wait until the game actually comes out though. I have yet to play DS2, but the third installment sounds interesting so far at the least.
DrManik's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2011 23:54
DrManik
@Los255

DUDE SPOILERS
BrowneyeWinkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 00:28
BrowneyeWinkin
Dead space is a yam
Toby Danger's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 00:34
Toby Danger
I'm sorry, but this sounds stupid.

Issac has twice survived encounters with a deadly race of space zombies that have wiped out hundreds of people, twice destroyed the giant alien device which created the things, and twice been misled by the device's hallucinations into aiding it's machinations before learning the truth. He's pretty much realised that this whole thing is happening because his government is run by religious morons who think the Marker is their salvation. And at the end of the second game he confronted the Marker, the very part of it that had infected his brain, fooling him with images of his girlfriend, told it to fuck off, and literally shot it out of his mind.

And after all that, we're meant to believe that he's going even more insane, to the point that he now has a split personality who likes to remind him of his failures? Boy, Evil Issac's going to get bored of that very quickly, since Issac is probably the only person who's actually achieved a small measure of success in this whole game (if not being killed of mutated is considered success.) If anything, Issac should be even stronger mentally.
And a snarky version of your main character constantly popping up to insult you? Not scary. And how is this any different from Nicole bossing him around?

I'm not saying Issac should be completely sane, he should still be affected by what he's seen and experienced. But this sounds like a lazy excuse to give Issac depth and to make his psychosis seem fresh.
Plus the idea of two Issacs just reeks of 'way to implement Co-Op mode'.
Toby Danger's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 00:38
Toby Danger
I'm sorry, but this sounds stupid.

Issac has twice survived encounters with a deadly race of space zombies that have wiped out hundreds of people, twice destroyed the giant alien device which created the things, and twice been misled by the device's hallucinations into aiding it's machinations before learning the truth. He's pretty much realised that this whole thing is happening because his government is run by religious morons who think the Marker is their salvation. And at the end of the second game he confronted the Marker, the very part of it that had infected his brain, fooling him with images of his girlfriend, told it to fuck off, and literally shot it out of his mind.

And after all that, we're meant to believe that he's going even more insane, to the point that he now has a split personality who likes to remind him of his failures? Boy, Evil Issac's going to get bored of that very quickly, since Issac is probably the only person who's actually achieved a small measure of success in this whole game (if not being killed of mutated is considered success.) If anything, Issac should be even stronger mentally.
And a snarky version of your main character constantly popping up to insult you? Not scary. And how is this any different from Nicole bossing him around?

I'm not saying Issac should be completely sane, he should still be affected by what he's seen and experienced. But this sounds like a lazy excuse to give Issac depth and to make his psychosis seem fresh.
Plus the idea of two Issacs just reeks of 'way to implement Co-Op mode'.
Toby Danger's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 00:40
Toby Danger
Gah double post, sorry!
Raggamofyn's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 01:30
Raggamofyn
I think it'll play well with him being a crazy-head and all.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 01:53
Mr Andy Dixon
I don't care if they charge $500. This game is MINE.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 01:54
Mr Andy Dixon
*OK, I care a LITTLE
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 01:56
Corduroy Turtle
Dead Space 2 is up there with the best games of the year, and that's mostly because of the eyeball scene.

They already have my money.
Tahiri's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 04:30
Tahiri
God I hate siliconera. Their admins pick fights then ban those who stick up for themselves
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 04:53
EdgyDude
Shadow Isaac Boss Battle (possibly the end boss even): confirmed!
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 05:00
DAVYDOCK
Hope its a little less shooter friendly than 2. Towards the end of that game it was getting beyond the joke. Still the rest of it was bloody brilliant.

Love Dead Space, one of the coolest new franchises in years.
Dr-Peace's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 05:52
Dr-Peace
The Two Thrones was easily the weakest in the Sands of Time Trilogy, but damn was the Dark Prince awesome and hilarious.

Even if he can't swim.

So they could be tapping into something special here, whether that will be enough... I'm not so sure.
KilgoreTrout XL's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 07:52
KilgoreTrout XL
I absolutely loved dead space 1 & 2. That said, I would ask myself from time to time while playing both: "Why am I punishing myself with this gut-wrenching awfulness by continuing to play this game?"
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 07:55
Stevil
I hope Evil Issac has a British accent like the one Damian Lewis used in the god awful Dreamcatcher, because it's the only thing that would make this fairly redundant concept work. Throw in the daft faces he pulls when he's evil, too.



The thing is, if Visceral are intending to follow a loose template of Aliens (like they mentioned in many interviews) Issac should be more like Ripley in Alien3. It's the logical step forward; experienced, callous, ruthless, with a renewed purpose and nothing to lose.

Of course, that worked for Ripley, but considering how ham-fisted videogames can be when it comes to complex characterisation, they would run the chance of turning Issac into an unlikable dick.

There's really no need for another plot device to convey how Issac feels, while isolating him from the supporting cast, but hey ho, it's easier that way.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 08:49
Occams electric toothbrush
Shadow Isaac should be a giant beetle.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 09:19
amtalx
As long as 'Shadow Isaac' is a working title, I'm down with this. Visceral has done a great job with Isaac's descent in to madness so far.
Hugh G Rection's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 09:32
Hugh G Rection
DeadSpace is an amazing franchise which i love, and I'll surely try this one out buuuut... i also feel the plot is wearing thin. The first game was an excellent story, the second game felt like they concentrated on graphics and atmosphere but the story was kinda weak in my opinion. I mean how many times is this dude gonna stumble upon necromorphs in a giant universe? Or is he the one causing it all.... duh duh duh
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 10:21
Bulkmailer
Evil Isaac should have a lisp.
Jedislayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 10:45
Jedislayer
Issac makes Leon Kennedy look like a school boy
AlexMorgaen's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 11:36
AlexMorgaen
Tacky co-op mode resembling F3AR? Say what?
Rafael Arbulu's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 12:20
Rafael Arbulu
Seems interesting, I think.

Only..."Shadow Isaac"? Please tell me this is not final...it'll be better if there's a different name for this persona
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2011 16:50
BoomingEchoes
I like the idea of them breaking Isaac down little by little in each installment. Its superb storytelling that no one expected from the series.

And I agree with Tristix, I think they should close it, and this trilogy, out with him dying. Anything else would appear WAY to sun-shiny. They could always extend the series by making a new protagonist on the other side of the universe (or even using someone Isaac's met in these games).

@Rammstein

It says RUMOR in the title. The game hasn't even been announced. No matter how much we know there'll be a next game no one but Visceral has any idea of how it's going to go right now, and they might not even be 100% on that yet. Theres no spoilers to be had and rumors ALWAYS need to be taken with a grain of salt.
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