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Rumor: Here's what BioShock 2 is really about photo

It's been a busy day for news of BioShock 2: word it'll be on PS3, the rumor it would feature co-op and more, the denial of that information and even a rant on why co-op isn't such a hot idea. Of course, people want to know the real deal, and I can't blame them -- so do I. That's why this recent post on NeoGAF got me interested, because word on the street is that the info contained therein is the real deal.

Of course, we can't label anything fact until it comes from the mouth of 2K, so read the information at your own risk. It also contains some pretty major spoilers for what you can expect from the title, so if you don't wanna know, don't hit the jump. I will say that what I'm hearing here sounds a hell of a lot better than the situation as of yesterday morning. Also, common sense disclaimer: don't read after the jump if you don't want to know any details! Does this version of BioShock 2 sound like something you want to play?

Summary: You're a Big Daddy, and you get to use the drill and rivet gun. And you can use plasmids too. You can take little sisters from other Big Daddies and take them around Rapture to collect ADAM like you see happening in BioShock 1.

It's 10 years since the first game. The Big Sister returns to rapture, bringing back the Little Sisters with her. You play as the original Big Daddy. You can use the drill, the rivet gun, and you can still use plasmids.

Little Sisters have been given a new look to be less creepy, as you're seeing them from the eyes of their protectors. You don't get your own Little Sister from the start, as you're a renegade Big Daddy. So you fight other Big Daddies to get your own sister. You can still harvest them, but the other option has been changed to "adopt" instead of rescue. If you adopt the sister, she'll ride on your shoulders, and you can go around Rapture looking for corpses for her to collect ADAM from. When your sister goes to harvest ADAM, a wave of Splicers will come and start attacking to try and harvest her. You have to hold them off until she finishes harvesting. You gain some ADAM from this, but not enough to tide you through the game. You can permanently rescue them, but the article doesn't say how.

The Big Sister is one of the surviving little sisters from the last game. She's the new ruler of Rapture, and is the main antagonist of the game. With each Big Daddy you kill, the game lets you know how close you are to incurring the wrath of the Big Sister. When you do, the little sister you're with will sing a song about how the Big Sister doesn't want you playing with her, then you get jumped.

The Big Daddy drill takes the place of the wrench. Can spin, but overheats so you can't run it constantly. You can do the Big Daddy charging shoulder bash. You can heal your hacked turrets/camera bots. Incinerate upgrades let you throw fireballs and shoot a stream of fire. Cyclone trap can be hit with incinerate and become a flaming cyclone trap. Upgrade trees are more diverse to give you more unique options.

It says they'll think twice about attacking you on their own, but if they're in groups they'll tear your shit up.


More info on big sister: "The Big Sister will always be a desperate, desperate fight...She can find you wherever you are, so you have to prepare for the fact that the hardest thing in the game is on the scent."

She's fast, stabs you with her ADAM needle, then uses TK to suck in all the stuff in the room as a shield, then launches it at you.

We get to see how ADAM gets extracted from Little Sisters for distribution.

You walk around on the sea floor outside of Rapture

Addendum: Vita Chambers aren't back in the same way as they were in the first game, but the same mechanic exists. Can be turned off.

Game is supposed to be scarier than BioShock 1.

Other info:There is confirmed multiplayer(no details), audio logs are back, and Fontaine Futuristics is a level in the game.


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Sup3rt3d's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 11:24
Sup3rt3d
Yep that sounds more like a game I'd want to play! Could care less about multiplayer but that storyline sounds sweet
Corican's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 11:29
Corican
After Easter I'm subscribing to LoveFilm and renting Bioshock, then I'll be totally amped for Bioshock 2.
BrickRoadDX's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 11:33
BrickRoadDX
I'd buy that.
hoyt414's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 11:37
hoyt414
That sounds dumb.
Tash's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 11:39
Tash
This sounds a LOT better.
Caffeine Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 11:40
Caffeine Knight
This isn't real. End of Story.
zeroword's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 11:43
zeroword
That sounds a hell of a lot better than the original story shopped around. If its not real then they need to make it so. Scrap that Russian shit.
Benefactor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 11:54
Benefactor
1. I don't believe a word of this.
2. I would hate this as a concept. I know being a Big Daddy would be cool and all, but I'm not so thrilled about the idea of the entire game essentially being an escort mission.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 11:55
DaedHead8
If this is real then fuck yes. But it almost sounds too much like a Big Daddy fanboi's wet dream. The one part I didn't understand is this:

"you have to prepare for the fact that the hardest thing in the game is on the scent"

Are they saying the Big Sister can find you anywhere because she can smell you? Consider me confused...
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 12:05
Josh Tolentino
It sounds better, but the idea of having a main, known antagonist is kinda sticky. Also, why return to Rapture? Why would a Big Sister go back to rule a ruin? There's no more ADAM, and the city is full of corpses.

Well, I suppose that's to be discovered, so I reserve judgment.

At least it's not Soviets.
Count Grishnack's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 13:13
Count Grishnack
Yeah, pretty much agree with everyone that this is false. It actually does sounds pretty rad though, if true.
pumpkinhed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 13:24
pumpkinhed
Think about how detailed the plot to the first Bioshock was. There is NO WAY this is the sequel. This reads like a fan fiction. Totally bogus...
SpiralGray's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 13:25
SpiralGray
If that really is what the game is about, I'll be passing on it. I fail to see how they could make several hours of tromping around as a Big Daddy very interesting.
BlackFreefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 13:31
BlackFreefall
Suddenly the world is turn right side up again.
adultswim810's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 13:41
adultswim810
this is interesting and better but still not anything like the first one, so I have trouble believing it.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 13:44
mix
"Game is supposed to be scarier than BioShock 1"

I never knew Bioshock "1" was even scary...lol
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 13:49
DaedHead8
@mix

I'm unashamed to admit that the splicers in Bioshock scared me on a couple of occasions.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 13:50
Daxelman
This sounds more like Bioshock: Big Daddy, than Bioshock 2: Sea Of Dreams.

For all I know, I was hoping for some ADAM influenced uprising on the surface instead of the sea.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 13:52
Chronic Logic
Big Daddy: Help somebody stole my bitch along with my profits!
Big Sister: You mean somebody kidnapped your Little Sister and her ADAM?
Big Daddy: Yea, god damn. That's like the third ho this week. I'm going to run out of money soon and go out of business. The life of a pimp is hard work, remember when the good times when life was easier?
Big Sister: We were captured, drugged, and modified to become monsters contained in diving suits with our minds brainwashed and wiped. So no, I don't remember the good times.
Big Daddy: Times are tough, there are not much clients frequenting my business these days. Bob the Houdini splicer was my best customer, but that faceless mute fucker with the wrench and plasmid powers killed him last week and not only that, he convereted one my hookers into a saint. And... Oh Shit! There he is now trying to persuade another one of my hoes! I'm going to fucking drill his ass!
Slique's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 13:55
Slique
Not too keen on this idea. The idea of playing as a Big Daddy sounds fun, but in practice I'd imagine it to be slow, clunky and fairly boring. Besides, it doesn't make too much sense from a narrative point of view. Like unangbangkay said, nearly everyone in Rapture is dead now, and ADAM was already sparse in the first game. Surely after another 10 years it would have been entirely used up?
The Pat Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 14:09
The Pat Man
Here's a link to all of those none believers that this is true.

http://allgamesbeta.net/2009/03/13/bioshock-2/

I haven't bought the Gameinformer issue, but from what I can tell these screens are from said issue showing some in game footage. Don't deny it any longer, you do infact play as a Big Daddy. Now that I got that out of the way, I have to say this can be iffy. It sounds like a good idea gameplay wise but I have no idea how it'll be story wise. I mean what about the Big Sister? She seems awfully full grown for a supposed teenager. I would assume that the Big Sister was the first original Little Sister (explaining difference in age and size) and you playing as the original Big Daddy which had to protect the original Little Sister now Big Sister, which would explain why you yourself now don't have a Little Sister and how the Big Sister can track you by scent. But this is me only guessing.
hitnrun's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 14:12
hitnrun
"Think about how detailed the plot to the first Bioshock was. There is NO WAY this is the sequel. This reads like a fan fiction. Totally bogus..."

That's the problem, of course. It isn't being made or written by the original creators, so what we're going to get is essentially professional fan fiction.
Zripwud's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 14:14
Zripwud
This DOES sound better... but still is not the Bioshock I'd like to see. I don't want to be a Big Daddy!
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 14:22
sickNasty
So you spend the whole game as a Big Daddy? That doesn't sound very appealing. I didn't really like the section in the first one where you where the Big Daddy suit.
Peteru's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 14:32
Peteru
I don't like it. Also I think it's another fake, but... well better than previous.
If it was 2hr game, then this should work just fine. But for longer period, how would you keep it interesting? Turning into Big Daddy the first time already seemed forced.

2K - invent some new good stuff, don't milk these Daddies like they were Big Cows.

@Going back to Rupture
I think there can be some interesting story here. Even if city is a ruin, there's technology there worthy of risking your neck trying to get it. But it's creator is alredy played, history of the fall is revealed and all these good bits won't work again. If it's back to Rupture there has to be someting new there. Either important part of the narrative that was untuched before (and Dadies and Sisies ain't anywhere near it), or city had to change significantly.
ZekeThePlumber's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 14:42
ZekeThePlumber
This reads more like a hopeful fanfic than an actual game.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 14:46
Corak
Don't believe it.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 15:06
covah
Being that screens from the gameinformer article proves you do play as a big daddy, that being said I doubt the entire game will be big daddy. Slow and lumbering, that wont make for a good game the entire time.
Static Jak's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 15:07
Static Jak
So basically the entire game is based around that 1 escort mission you had as a Big Daddy following the Little Sister around? Crap.

And how on earth could it be "scarier" if you're a freaking Big Daddy!
False. Or at least I'm praying it is.
trueb7ue's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 15:07
trueb7ue
the "original" big daddy? lol he sounds like Mr. Badass Daddy to me. Drill on one hand, Rivet gun in the other?


As happy as I am to hear a different plotline than yesterdays shitfest.. im not buying it hoping for it. the Big daddies didnt seem all that intelligent to me and it seems like this 2K trying to bust open some Bioshock Online Multiplayer. No thanks 2K i have enough 1st person shooters.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 15:11
EternalDeathSlayer
This sounds really retarded.
Faust2814's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 15:16
Faust2814
If this is true, and the game winds up being as annoying as that little sister sequence at the end of the first game I'll pass. Granted being the big daddy was fun, but escorting the little sister's was aggravating as hell at times.
whatisdelicious's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 15:29
whatisdelicious
I really hope this isn't what the game will actually be. It just sounds like one huge fifteen-hour escort mission. I don't want that. I want LESS escorting in games, not more. It's just a really lazy game design choice to make it challenging.

And plus the idea of Big Sisters is really lazy too, and the one screen shot of it just looks stupid.

They need to just completely go back to the drawing board with this, or even better, just scrap it and let BioShock stand on its own.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 15:39
mrplow8
I don't see how this is "scarier" then the first.

In the first one you were just a human in a world you knew nothing about. The Big Daddies seemed really intimidating and up until the point where you actually fight one you're constantly looking over your shoulder expecting one to come up behind you and rip your head off.

How can it be scary if you're actually playing as a Big Daddy? You're controlling the most feared entity in Rapture. It's like playing through Resident Evil as a Zombie Dinosaur. Who's going to be afraid of zombies when you're a Zombie Dinosaur?
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 15:49
Xhumation
Sounds OK. but I refuse to believe anything not said by 2k
Maxxthepenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 16:44
Maxxthepenguin
And here I was thinking an important part of Bioshock was thematic depth, not just another fantasy universe. Instead of trying to wrestle meaning into video games, this sequel seems intent on instead doing the good ol "wouldn't it be cool if you were these cool guys?" schtick. I'm not saying Bioshock was entirely successful with attempts at meaning and philosophy, but it tried and that's not some small thing.

So far, so frustrated.
Infinitestrike's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 16:52
Infinitestrike
I saw the "scans" it seems to be real.

However, I'll wait for 2K to confirm.
XIX Wolf's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 16:54
XIX Wolf
Ugh, if this is the plot I'll pass. that'sthe one thing that was brilliant about the first Bioshock. the rest was pretty generic if you ask me.
Aziel13's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 17:12
Aziel13
I'd hit it
with my sonic boom
wait.....
I see what I did there
eskimo bob's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 17:35
eskimo bob
this is most likely fake. in fact, weren't Big Daddies deconfirmed for Bioshock 2 since they put in the Big Sisters?
drgonzo666's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 17:37
drgonzo666
i think i hate these ideas already
tehAnt1the1s1s's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 17:57
tehAnt1the1s1s
I actually read the article in game informer and I have to say that everything in this post is accurate according to the magazine. That beeing said reading the article made me furious and it sounds like an awful concept that will destroy both the asthetic and the soul of Bioshock.
Jaren Face's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 19:57
Jaren Face
Was I the only one that actually LIKED the first scenario over this one? When I first read the info dripping from GI, I couldn't help but think of that part towards the end of Bioshock. Not really a fan of that to be honest.

With the first scenario, I was looking forward to fighting splicer animals, and yes, the whole splicer soviets intrigued me as well.

I mean, who doesn't want to fight commies? Commies. That's who.
daysocks's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 20:44
daysocks
If that's what they're turning Bioshock into I'll stay far away from it and continue playing the original. The escort mission was frustrating and forced, and an entire game of it is, to me, about as unappealing as it gets.

*pretends that there will never be a Bioshock 2*
Tombstone's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 21:02
Tombstone
I very much so preffered the first one over this. I LOVED the idea. Russians discovering Rapture in hopes of using it to overtake America, and you playing as an hardboiled sleuth and saving some dames? Best game ever.

Now this idea just seems horribly cheesy and ungood.
Crumpet Lips's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 21:05
Crumpet Lips
That's too fucking stupid to be true. I don't believe that at all, sounds stupider than the first rumor with the soviets in it.

Wasn't Bioshock 2 meant to be a prequel anyway?
MrSlippery's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 21:21
MrSlippery
I dunno. I like it, but I'd rather face soviet sploicers.

regardless, that sounds kinda cool.
Necro BABS's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 21:49
Necro BABS
multiplayer? Right...fucking stupid
Slick Icarus II's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 22:07
Slick Icarus II
I was replaying Bioshock to get hyped for the inevetable big reveal, and got freaked out when I saw a big Daddy on the sea floor outside a window. Sounds interesting, but I'm still cautiously optimistic, with the emphesis on "cautiously".

Oh, and Game Informer scans pretty much prove all this. I thinks it sounds pretty interesting, personally. As long as they don't screw things up, which they probably will, I'm cool.
Im OK's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2009 22:20
Im OK
Yorda from ICO is in Bioshock 2?

Oh wait, there's text there as well.
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