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I don't mean to sound like a douche, but as someone who has embraced Digital Distribution and can afford multiple day 1, collector editions. (though I don't think D.D. should cost the same as physical retail) I look forward to the move. Will the industry take a hit, sure. Will we get fewer shit titles? one can only assume.
If the games are locked to one PSN account, I'm done. If my girlfriend can't play the SAME game on the SAME console without paying more money, this will be suicide for Sony. It's rumors right now and I can't fathom any company being that stupid (save your fanboy hatred, it's not wanted or valid). There's already rumors Microsoft is doing the same thing with Durango.
I've gamed for most of my 29 years and I'll walk away from the entire market if this is the future. That's literally thousands of dollars a year (yes, I buy almost every game I want and I buy them all new) lost. And I'm not the only one who will storm out. It's not worth it for me to be into gaming if I can only do it on PC. Sorry PC fans, but there's not enough exclusives and quite a bit of what I like is exclusive to consoles. Maybe I'm finally getting too old for this.
Or maybe, just maybe, these companies are losing what's left of their collective minds. I sincerely hope younger gamers don't embrace this just because CoD6 and Halo 5 will be on them. Why don't we start putting tacks in car seats while we're at it and charge you a small fee to not have them ram up your crack while you drive? Thankfully this is just rumor for now and I hope it stays that way.
I've gamed for most of my 29 years and I'll walk away from the entire market if this is the future. That's literally thousands of dollars a year (yes, I buy almost every game I want and I buy them all new) lost. And I'm not the only one who will storm out. It's not worth it for me to be into gaming if I can only do it on PC. Sorry PC fans, but there's not enough exclusives and quite a bit of what I like is exclusive to consoles. Maybe I'm finally getting too old for this.
Or maybe, just maybe, these companies are losing what's left of their collective minds. I sincerely hope younger gamers don't embrace this just because CoD6 and Halo 5 will be on them. Why don't we start putting tacks in car seats while we're at it and charge you a small fee to not have them ram up your crack while you drive? Thankfully this is just rumor for now and I hope it stays that way.
Fortunately by holiday 2013 I'll have built a new computer which should last me until Sony and Microsoft get their head out of their ass and remove the DRM system they wish to implement (assuming anonymous news source on Kotaku can be trusted). If I'm wrong I'll just use the money I saved not buying consoles on a water cooled beast, not as if a DRM heavy system I have no control over is actually worth my support.
This sounds more plausible than a console that can outright lock out used games, but it's also frightening. I don't want a system that will deny me the use of anything.
Immediate thoughts are that this sounds like shit. No backward compatibility? That's the stupidest thing ever. As for the other crap, well, let's just hope people make a stand with their wallets. Fuck them for trying to control what we pay for. That's like telling someone 'You can buy this car with your hard earned money, but you can only drive it where we want you to go.'
Come to the dark side.
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In all seriousness, I would be absolutely pissed if this occurred. It would be enough to push me out of the console arena. Between the rumors of MS and Sony both considering something akin to digital distribution, I would not be surprised if there was an ounce of truth. I already get my digital distributed titles on the PC and for a hell of a lot cheaper. Sure, if they can pull off the same deals and moves that Steam and GoG have done, then maybe I will consider it. However, it will be harder for me to justify something that is not as open as my PC. Plus, if there really is no backwards compatibility, even IF I decided to purchase a new console, this would probably delay my purchase for a long time or even cancel the purchase.
The PCs await you with open arms.
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In all seriousness, I would be absolutely pissed if this occurred. It would be enough to push me out of the console arena. Between the rumors of MS and Sony both considering something akin to digital distribution, I would not be surprised if there was an ounce of truth. I already get my digital distributed titles on the PC and for a hell of a lot cheaper. Sure, if they can pull off the same deals and moves that Steam and GoG have done, then maybe I will consider it. However, it will be harder for me to justify something that is not as open as my PC. Plus, if there really is no backwards compatibility, even IF I decided to purchase a new console, this would probably delay my purchase for a long time or even cancel the purchase.
Sony can shove the lame ass playsation move up thier ass. What stupid ass idea, this why the sont is losing money. Your going to piss of your loyal playstation customers and most of them will go to Nintendo
All depends on the cost of activating your pre owned games...
Small, ie online kind of price, I think that's passable.
Large, ie half of retail price, no fucking way.
The few details rumored about all 3 next Gen consoles have me really not giving a fuck...
The games will seriously have to blow my mind for me to consider partaking...
Small, ie online kind of price, I think that's passable.
Large, ie half of retail price, no fucking way.
The few details rumored about all 3 next Gen consoles have me really not giving a fuck...
The games will seriously have to blow my mind for me to consider partaking...
The only next-gen system that sounds any FUN is the Wii U. Microsoft & Sony are going total new world order on us.
The downfall of gaming has begun.
The downfall of gaming has begun.
@Alfred Valde
Yes, and Steam is DRM that ruins games just as much as any other DRM does. Fun Fact: I've never paid more than $5 for a game that requires Steam, and I don't plan on changing that.
Just because Steam has sales and is made by Valve doesn't mean permanently tying your games to your account is suddenly okay.
Yes, and Steam is DRM that ruins games just as much as any other DRM does. Fun Fact: I've never paid more than $5 for a game that requires Steam, and I don't plan on changing that.
Just because Steam has sales and is made by Valve doesn't mean permanently tying your games to your account is suddenly okay.
@zamar2
"Will we get fewer shit titles? one can only assume."
LOL. I don't think the presence of a used game market dictates whether or not companies make a game that is good or is shit. Shitty developers will always make shitty games.
"Will we get fewer shit titles? one can only assume."
LOL. I don't think the presence of a used game market dictates whether or not companies make a game that is good or is shit. Shitty developers will always make shitty games.
If they're going to lock all games to your PSN ID, then they're going to have to do away with that rule that only allows you to have 3 systems associated to your ID and let all PSN subscribers access cloud storage (not just PS Plus users). If I want to take a game over to a friend's place, then that's the only way it would work. I don't mind having to log in as myself at a friend's, but I'd be screwed once I go to a 3rd friend's.
yeah... I figured that games would try as much as possible to go digital and locking to a PSN account is a good first step... though I think they should reconsider with the current system of downloads being locked to 2 units (and not the account) - at least this way siblings can share a game and play co-op if they have 2 PS3 units without having to pay double the price.
I don't even mind the inability to trade in used games or buy used games, but I hate that we can't even share games we purchase with other family members in our own house.
I don't even mind the inability to trade in used games or buy used games, but I hate that we can't even share games we purchase with other family members in our own house.
To be honest I too am in the "if this is how it's gonna be, then fuck this shit, I'm out" camp.
I've enjoyed my time gaming, and it's been a long old time, but fuck it man. I ain't tolerating this shit to play some video games.
If that is actually how it's gonna be, I'm gonna be "That dude" who in 10 years time is still playing his PS3, saying shit like "you kids don't have a clue, it used to be so good!" like an old man and shit.
I've enjoyed my time gaming, and it's been a long old time, but fuck it man. I ain't tolerating this shit to play some video games.
If that is actually how it's gonna be, I'm gonna be "That dude" who in 10 years time is still playing his PS3, saying shit like "you kids don't have a clue, it used to be so good!" like an old man and shit.
I've already moved closer and close to handheld (smartphone AND dedicated) and PC gaming. I don't even know if I'll buy another console system.
The measures companies like MS, Sony and EA are taking are a factor in my doing this, though not the sole.
The measures companies like MS, Sony and EA are taking are a factor in my doing this, though not the sole.
I like how everyone is saying they'll ditch the console gaming industry if xbox/PlayStation adopts these rumored practices, yet they seem to forget that the wiiu won't be doing anything of the sort.
^_^;
^_^;
All of my this-gen digital content carries over to next-gen or I'm not buying any more fucking consoles.
With all the bullshit online passes our games are practically already restricted to one PSN account and if you get insta banned(I did two weeks ago for no fucking reason) then you loose the right to play the fucking game you payed for, maps and all.
This annoy's me so much that the next gen. Consoles want to block used games. Seriously terrible idea but on the brightside no more Game Stop! :) check out thistrailersucks.com if you have a review request or need a good laugh.
I would like to say these rumours are BS but the way the industry has been treating its consumers lately this would not surprise me.
I will definetly be thinking long and hard about any console that I think is bad for me as a consumer, and if all else fails I will just have to embrace the PC master race.
I will definetly be thinking long and hard about any console that I think is bad for me as a consumer, and if all else fails I will just have to embrace the PC master race.
I'm all about some Sony, but man I hope this isn't true. Forget about locking out used games for a sec (which is a huge mistake), but requiring a constant internet connection to play any game is an even bigger mistake.
Taking all this with a grain of salt for now, but if this stuff pans out I may give up console gaming. This is not the right direction.
Taking all this with a grain of salt for now, but if this stuff pans out I may give up console gaming. This is not the right direction.
Well, the game locking sounds like what they did with the Vita but cranked to 11.
You can't get Trophies on Vita games that other have played, as they've been more or less locked to that other persons account (though theres a way around it I hear, but not for every game -depends on the publisher/circumstance I guess).
I'm going through this with my roommate right now, since they took my Army Corps of Hell game when we both got our Vitas thinking it'd be fine, and now it seems like I might not be able to achieve anything on it (and my roommate doesn't care about Trophy's or Achievements, where I do -- So its kind of salt in the wound for me)
I'm sure there will be other restrictions for the new consoles games though --like multiplayer lockouts for preowned ,already registered, games. Surely thats how Sony figures doing away with the online pass and forcing new game sales (unless they keep being able to buy a pass for $10, for those wanting the preowned game -but I expect the price of the pass to go up actually)
What I think this will mean for players is a lot of waiting for games to go down in price --but I also think because of this games will become cheaper even faster then they already do. A lot of people won't be able to afford them right away and retailers of all kinds will have to see that, and places like Amazon, who are already in the practice of taking advantage of this, will take greater advantage and sell the games on the cheap and make a bundle from pushing the completion.
So, really, I do see cheaper games in it for us --and I see the console companies being really pissed over that.
You can't get Trophies on Vita games that other have played, as they've been more or less locked to that other persons account (though theres a way around it I hear, but not for every game -depends on the publisher/circumstance I guess).
I'm going through this with my roommate right now, since they took my Army Corps of Hell game when we both got our Vitas thinking it'd be fine, and now it seems like I might not be able to achieve anything on it (and my roommate doesn't care about Trophy's or Achievements, where I do -- So its kind of salt in the wound for me)
I'm sure there will be other restrictions for the new consoles games though --like multiplayer lockouts for preowned ,already registered, games. Surely thats how Sony figures doing away with the online pass and forcing new game sales (unless they keep being able to buy a pass for $10, for those wanting the preowned game -but I expect the price of the pass to go up actually)
What I think this will mean for players is a lot of waiting for games to go down in price --but I also think because of this games will become cheaper even faster then they already do. A lot of people won't be able to afford them right away and retailers of all kinds will have to see that, and places like Amazon, who are already in the practice of taking advantage of this, will take greater advantage and sell the games on the cheap and make a bundle from pushing the completion.
So, really, I do see cheaper games in it for us --and I see the console companies being really pissed over that.
I barely like this gen as it is now, they can go fuck themselves if it gets even more draconian. I buy all my games used or very late brand new, because they decided to raise the price of games this gen across the board.
DLC? I rarely by it and only when there is a sale. DD games? only on sale. Notice how they raised all games to 10-15 bucks? no thanks.
online Passes? No thank you. I can wait till its cheaper brand new and not pay 10 bucks if I bought it used.
Sure it sounds like I'm just being cheap. Well, I am. And the industry forced me to do it. How much money do they think I have?
Next gen, if rumors are true, will just get worse and at that point it won't be worth it to me to even jump in. even if the games are amazing, the fact that I am just "renting" games (were kinda doing it this gen too) will result in a resounding "meh" from me.
DLC? I rarely by it and only when there is a sale. DD games? only on sale. Notice how they raised all games to 10-15 bucks? no thanks.
online Passes? No thank you. I can wait till its cheaper brand new and not pay 10 bucks if I bought it used.
Sure it sounds like I'm just being cheap. Well, I am. And the industry forced me to do it. How much money do they think I have?
Next gen, if rumors are true, will just get worse and at that point it won't be worth it to me to even jump in. even if the games are amazing, the fact that I am just "renting" games (were kinda doing it this gen too) will result in a resounding "meh" from me.
First they removed the memories cards so we were not able to play our saves at friends, and didn't allow backwards compatibility and now they're forbidding us to bring our games to our friends? The age of gaming is at it's end.
sounds like a lot of bullshit.
download retail games onto a console?
no backwards compatability with whats turning out to have the best exclusives of all 3 systems.
fat chance in hell.
let me make a rumor.
remember the ps9 commercial for ps2? thats how it will look based on a very trusted source of mine, and it will have something like the visual boy as a controller.
download retail games onto a console?
no backwards compatability with whats turning out to have the best exclusives of all 3 systems.
fat chance in hell.
let me make a rumor.
remember the ps9 commercial for ps2? thats how it will look based on a very trusted source of mine, and it will have something like the visual boy as a controller.
You know it's a sad state of affairs when you hear those things and can believe they will happen.
Seriously, we gamers as consumers are morons, we let this happen. Try doing something similar while buying a TV second-hand, "Oh since it's used it'll only pick up 20 channels of the 500 hundred you pay through your satellite-TV provider." Simply nuts.
I'd like to say Sony won't be that stupid, but I can't.
Seriously, we gamers as consumers are morons, we let this happen. Try doing something similar while buying a TV second-hand, "Oh since it's used it'll only pick up 20 channels of the 500 hundred you pay through your satellite-TV provider." Simply nuts.
I'd like to say Sony won't be that stupid, but I can't.
This article is missing some juicy details about the PS4. If you are interested you should read PlayStation lifestyle article http://playstationlifestyle.net/2012/03/28/next-playstation-codenamed-orbis-first-solid-rumors-are-here/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
While I am very happy to hear about the PS4 I am also sad to hear about about that limitation for used games crap, leave that to the xbox but not you Sony. I am very exited about the other specs.
This is the 4th phase of the videogames industry: Competition. Next, we'll get into the 5th phase, which is Convergence.
"the system will not be backward compatible with PlayStation 3 games."
"According to the source, games purchased either from PlayStation Network or on disc will be locked to the user's PSN account."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I already convinced myself that the PS3 would be my last console. After all the firmwares updates, I realised that I never owned the console, I rented it. If this inside info is true (and God I wouldn't be surprised) Sony just sealed the deal for me.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! Goodbye consoles, I'm gone for good.
"According to the source, games purchased either from PlayStation Network or on disc will be locked to the user's PSN account."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I already convinced myself that the PS3 would be my last console. After all the firmwares updates, I realised that I never owned the console, I rented it. If this inside info is true (and God I wouldn't be surprised) Sony just sealed the deal for me.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! Goodbye consoles, I'm gone for good.
If this is true... that is fine, so long games drop to $40 right when the game releases. If that is the case then so be it. Or games to vary with price to be as low as $20 but only as high as $40 then I might be ok with this.
The backwards thing I figured wouldn't be the case if they are dropping the whole cell processor. A shame really.
The backwards thing I figured wouldn't be the case if they are dropping the whole cell processor. A shame really.
If that's the case I think any retailers which deal with used game and offer trade ins should refuse to sell this product which wishes to put them out of business.
Sounds like PC and their key codes so this effects me very little except for the fact that garage sales will suck balls in 20 years.
Console-based DRM? DO NOT WANT.
That being said, there should be some profit-sharing in the used game market. The stores should give some of their used game profits to the publishers for the sake of being fair.
That being said, there should be some profit-sharing in the used game market. The stores should give some of their used game profits to the publishers for the sake of being fair.
If this is true (and honestly at this point I won't be shocked if it is), Sony is slitting their own throats. No BC and attacking the used game market will make the system DoA.
If the rumors of Microsoft doing this are true as well, I think we're about to see the next gaming crash. And at the rate we're going, it can't fucking happen soon enough.
If the rumors of Microsoft doing this are true as well, I think we're about to see the next gaming crash. And at the rate we're going, it can't fucking happen soon enough.
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