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Rumor: BioShock 2 DLC already on the disc photo

Fans are railing against 2K Games after it was suspected that the newly released BioShock 2 DLC, the Sinclair Solutions Test Pack, wasn't really downloadable content, but a mere key to unlock stuff already hidden on the disc. Like Namco Bandai does all the time. 

Suspicions were aroused thanks to the small file size of the alleged download. The file is 108kb on Xbox 360, and 24kb on PC, which is pretty damn tiny. Naturally, people are upset to think that 2K is taking the piss out of them, and one poster on the official forums believes that it should be labeled "unlockable content" rather than downloadable content to reflect its true nature. 

Honestly, publishers  should be held to some advertising standards when it claims that unlockable extras are DLC. If you're merely purchasing a key to activate something on the disc, that's not downloadable content, and it's wrong for companies to advertise it as such. Whether 2K has gone this controversial route or not remains to be seen, but it does throw this issue back to the fore, and it's something that I believe should be examined. 

What about you? Do you believe that unlockable content should not be called DLC, or do you think that it's fine to have such content masquerade as a download?

BioShock 2 DLC already on disc? [CVG]








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Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:23
Sexualchocolate
As you say jim, they're advertising it as something it isn't and should be taken to task on that. It's a bare faced lie.

But it does come down to the ownership of the physical disc, or the application on the disc as it was intended.

I like to think that by buying a disc you own all the content on that disc and should have access to it.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:25
Xzyliac
Oh god. I can hear the anti-DLC bandwagon now.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:25
Gorescream
If this is true,
THEN FUCK YOU 2k Games.
Comrade Snarky's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:25
Comrade Snarky
I'll never understand why developers think that the promise of "downloadable" content is a bigger draw than more content from day 1.

If it's on the disc, put it in the damn game.
lolipantsu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:26
lolipantsu
The simple solution here is to bloat the unlock key with several million lines of comments that read "LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL". That way the key would be considerably larger than 100k.
Murumasa123's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:28
Murumasa123
@Xzyliac

Lets be honest no one is against dlc months later they couldn't put on this disc for a reasonable price. Codes to unlock disk content or content that looks like it was just cut (As in Assassins Creed).

But More importantly HOW ABOUT THEY FIX THE MOTHER FUCKING CUNTING LAG!
Airbr1dge's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:30
Airbr1dge
It's more proof that developers make dlc and hold it just so they can release it for more money. Not that it needed to be proven. It's just rude to the gamer. Buying something I already have is unlockable content. It should be free.
Renend's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:32
Renend
doesnt matter at all either way your getting new stuff. i hate people who would even bother to bring this up. but also i hate bioshock. so have fun kids.
Neverdizzle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:33
Neverdizzle
I agree that if its on the disc, it should be in the game. I most certainly agree that this type of feature be fully advertised as to what it actually is.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:33
Sexualchocolate
Even if it isn't free it should certainly be advertised as "unlockable content" rather than 2downloadable content" because you're not actually downloading the content at all.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:34
Los255
This is why I don't fuck with much DLC, no matter the game.

To some people, "unlockable" might mean just achieving something from the game to get those things for free. Ironically, this could lead those same people to be upset and wonder why they're being charged for a key. So "Downloadable Content" doesn't raise alarms in hopes people don't go around looking at file sizes.

One of the worst things to happen to this industry.
Sentry's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:35
Sentry
How much content they choose to release at any given time is ultimately up to them, but on those occasions where it's undoubtedly true that they've already provided complete software and offer nothing but an unlock, well that certainly doesn't have the feel of responsible business.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:36
Xzyliac
@Murumasa123
Yeah I get codes to unlock on-disc content are shit but there are certainly people, not namin' names but they're in this thread, who take it way too far and just generalize about DLC in general with no basis other than a few cherrypicked scenarios and their own cynicism.
sprldr's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:37
sprldr
From our perspective, there is absolutely no difference between paying $15 to download some content and paying $15 to 'unlock' some content, apart from the faster download.

/Devil's advocate
James Andrews's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:40
James Andrews
DLC is bad enough. We pay and then pay again for the same game, but we got used to it. NOW were paying for parts of the game that were already done? Parts of the game that were completed in the same dev cycle as the release? At least lie about it, guys. Putting it on the disc was really dumb. Consider me pissed off too.
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:42
timtheterrible
@ sprldr

Not true. The difference is that the consumer already owns the disc, along with the content it contains.
Br0th3rGr1mm's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:47
Br0th3rGr1mm
I think arguing about the semantics of the word "download" is both trival and detracts from the real issue here. Are you being charged extra for content that should have been (and actually WAS) included with the game? If no charges were involved and it's a "buy new or don't get all the game content for free" method (like ME2s Cerberus Network), I have no problem with it. If they are promoting it as additional content for a fee and it's already on the disk that just needs to be unlocked..that's pretty shady and mightly close to gouging the public.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:48
Sexualchocolate
@Sprldr - depends if you feel that by buying a disc you are buying the physical disc and it's content, or that by buying it your are just buying the game app as it is intended.

It's a grey area.

Gaming DLC is a new sub-industry, which as all new industries do is testing the waters of legality. Gaming as a whole needs a little touch of industry fairness and could do with being looked at by the powers of law.

I mean, DLC that's already on the disc, "available on (insert console here)" on multiplat ads, and general exclusivity / timed exclusivity advertising etc could all do with some legal guidlines.
xaliqen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:50
xaliqen
If it's a 24k file we're talking about, then nothing really remains to be seen, there's no way they could contain high-res textures/sounds for this content in a 24k file.
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:51
Stephen Beirne
Consider it like this: picture a game with online multiplayer completely packaged with it. On the disk. But you have to pay a fee to play it...

NO WAIT BAD EXAMPLE!!
Br0th3rGr1mm's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:54
Br0th3rGr1mm
On the ownership issue, I'm not sure what the legal stance is for console content, but for the PC, if you think you actually OWN the code you are sorely mistaken. You own a LICENSE to use the code the publisher has provided for your use. You do not actaully own the code itself. That difference is why you can't legally sell a used PC game (unless the publisher allows the license to be transfered...which no EULA will ever do).
jaygerbomb's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:55
jaygerbomb
Why do publishers not get this? If you want to chop stuff out of the game, and sell it back to us as add on content, fine. But if you're going to sell me a 100KB key to unlock something on the disc, then you can kindly go eff yourself. Stuff like this, and pretty much every game Capcom's released the past year or 2, really sours me on this generation.

Note, I am not against DLC as a whole. I'll gladly fork over a few bucks for something that really adds to a game, and gives it some re-playability. But I won't pay for something I already technically own.
FatherChesz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:59
FatherChesz
No one likes to feel like they're being sold something they've already bought. Given the nature of the beast, I think it's safe to say the content could have been included in the game, but PROFIT triumphs. They can release DLC for little cost to them, and you know someone will buy it.
Chad Almasy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:00
Chad Almasy
Wow. Just...wow. Will someone please bring this before a judge? Paying to unlock something on a disc/download that you already payed for? That's just...wow. How have people been able to get away with this? DLC that could have been put on the disc to begin with is low enough, but something that's -already on the bloody disc-?
Smo5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:05
Smo5000
2K Games - Uh, no. Sorry, but a toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll, and if we don't get no tolls, then we don't eat no rolls. [proudly] I made that up.

Consumers - It's very fascinating. But I'm afraid I'm going to have to hurt you.

--courtesy of robin hood: men in tights
Ignominus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:06
Ignominus
Consider it like this: inaccurate statement. commas are useless. ellipsis

RETARDED STATEMENT!!

/Cockney bullshit
Jay Me's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:19
Jay Me
Somebody should do a top ten offenders list. Then we can name, shame & avoid these greedy companies.
beastrn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:21
beastrn
I think they should stop charging people to play their shitty game post-completion.

Devs should be paying US to even REMEMBER these crap games
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:24
Stephen Beirne
@Ignominus

You got a bug up your ass, mate? :D
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:29
Mr Andy Dixon
I buy a lot of DLC, so I certainly wouldn't consider myself "anti" this new trend. I do, however, have a problem paying to unlock parts of a game I already technically purchased.

Like others have said, it's a gray area. Do I simply own a piece of physical media (DVD/BD/whatever) and the publisher of said media owns the means of unlocking it, or do I own the content written to that media? Anymore, I just don't know, and it kinda sucks.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:30
pokota
What is the real difference? We already know the DLC model is profitable and here to stay, and that developers are creating DLC concurrently with games. Sometimes DLC is stuff that is actually cut out of games. Is what people really asking for simply that publishers maintain the illusion that all DLC is just-thought-of and freshly developed? Would everyone be happier if they'd taken the DLC off the disc and made us download it? I personally have no illusions that publishers aren't after my money, but it sounds like a lot of other people are desperately clinging to a few sugar-coated fantasies about the video-game industry.
Ignominus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:35
Ignominus
@Byronic Man:

Just wanted to know what it was like being a snarky douche for no reason whatsoever. That alright with you, pal? :)
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:39
Holyetheline
if it's on the disc then we shouldn't have to pay extra to have access to it.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:46
Sexualchocolate
Byronic Man: Consider it like this: picture a game with online multiplayer completely packaged with it. On the disk. But you have to pay a fee to play it...

NO WAIT BAD EXAMPLE!!

-------------

HAHAHAHA Oh my Gawd, this is classic. I just lolled at my fucking desk. Thanks dude.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:47
Snaileb
THANK YOU .

now tell that to AvP, AC2, etc...
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:47
RenegadePanda
This is pretty much becoming common with all newer games, even Yakuza 3's 'DLC' that was 'exclusive' and 'only available through pre order and buying a new copy' was a 100k unlock code for content on the disc. It's easier from a development standpoint, and seeing as how I already feel that Bioshock 2 has 60 dollars worth of content, I really don't care, especially since this is MP stuff, and the MP is average. It's not like AC2, where an entire chunk of the main game world was deliberately cut (but still on the disc) and then sold back to us.
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:57
Stephen Beirne
@Ignominus

Nah you're just pissy about something I said yesterday, so today you can't take a joke. Too bad dude but you gotta lighten up. Like my man SexualChocolate here!
Boatz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:00
Boatz
Am I the only one that actually likes it when things are done like this? Its very much the same thing - you pay money, you get more game, except the download times are reduced. Whether its labelled DLC or unlockable content or whatever, the transaction is the same, more money = more game.
Invader's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:02
Invader
if it's not, this should be illegal, you're not supposed to pay for something you already own
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:02
CRAZYAPE69
@sexual chocolate: you always leave multiple posts on one article, shut the fuck up and get back to work, that is if you actually have a job, which i very much doubt.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:03
Xzyliac
I actually thought Byronic Man brought up a good point in a funny way. :/
ArigusX207's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:07
ArigusX207
Dude, who cares? It's pointless DLC anyway.

@lolipantsu you are a brilliant genius.
BiroBiro's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:08
BiroBiro
unlockebles should be well... unlocked by playing. like the old times, when the world wasnt full of greed and griefers.

Im against any DLC that doesnt have enough content to be called an expansion.
Sean Daisy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:13
Sean Daisy
@Byronic Man
I love Live because thanks to my crappy broadband it's the only online console gaming that works, nonetheless I lol'd.

As regards this action: Frankly, if you enjoyed what you got with B2 and thought it justified the price why should you care that they developed a bit more but request you unlock it first?

If you want to pay more and discover the unlock was already on the disc why does that insult you more than DLC, or buying a new game altogeter? Is it not simply a different method of distribution ultimately delivering the same action? Why do people feel betrayed?

I don't know why getting bogged down in the semantics achieves anything. If it is a lucrative action, the developers will go where the lucre does. Other than that, good luck with trying to overturn this with blind fury and delusions of justification.
Ignominus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:14
Ignominus
@Byronic Man:

Yes, your man knows his humor. I got the joke but was snarky for no reason, understand?
BiroBiro's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:16
BiroBiro
its like buying a car and only being able to use the radio if you pay more. it doesnt effect the overall performace of the product, its just an extra, but well, if it was already there in the car when you bought it... they just sell you the power button.

I can see a whole scandal and lots of sues if this happened
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:17
Sexualchocolate
@CrazyApe - You can suck my big black PSMove controller! Who the fuck are you to tell me how many comments i can post a day??

I have a job (Marketing Executive), my own office, a fucking assistant (she is fucking ugly though), a wife, a kid, a house and a BMW. The fact that i can get to where I've got AND write multiple comments on this site a day makes me twice the winner @ life that you can ever hope to be.

We're all having fun and banter here, but you sir can suck my fucking dick.

Cum guzzling arse bandit.

Sorry guys, Crazy Ape pissed me off a little there.
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:17
Stephen Beirne
@Xzyliac

Thanks. The irony above is something I haven't seen justified yet - it seems there's a thin line but none of us know exactly where.
Chaos Mage's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:17
Chaos Mage
I think the people that bring up that it should have been free as you already paid for the game should know that you don't actually own the game on the disk, you are just licensing it. You own the actual disk but not the content on it. :/ kinda stupid right but that is the fucked up world of copyright we live in.

It is a very douche bag move but they can do what ever they want because you don't actually own anything.
imaginarythomas's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:24
imaginarythomas
It's just transparent greed. When I buy a game I assume I'm paying for everything in the package. I don't buy a box of cereal and the pay an extra dollar later on so I can have all the crunchy goodness contained within.
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