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Well this'll be awkward. Mark Hamill has went on record saying he's not going to be Joker in anything else anymore. So unless Rocksteady can dump a truckload of money on him, someone else is going to have to be him which...I dunno. I can't see that going over TOO well.
That will be so awesome if they can incorporate all the Silver Age weirdness. They should bring Grant Morrison in - he would love this project.
Something else I just realized. If this is a case of Rocksteady deliberately feeding us misinformation, it won't be the first. Remember the awesome double fake-out they did with the Arkham City preview, where the Joker flatlines? Maybe this is, you know. All part...of..the plan.
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just couldn't help myself lol
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just couldn't help myself lol
In theory I like the idea of a Silver Age Batman game. In theory. In practice, I'd rather have Rocksteady finish the story they began in '09, *then* move on to something like a prequel.
This is a BAD idea.
Also: NO Morrison. Once upon a time he ruled; now he just needs to stay away from the keyboard.
Also: NO Morrison. Once upon a time he ruled; now he just needs to stay away from the keyboard.
First of all @Xi Fayt iX, the killing joke isn't canon, and the video game universe is separate to what was established in the comics, so them changing his origin is allowed, even though I strongly argue that the joker shouldn't have an origin. Also @Elijah Fly, Joker's body, in Arkham city: Endgame, was cremated, making his resurrection in a Lazarus Pit impossible. The only other option is to use a Cadmus Clone (as hinted at in Harley Quinn's Revenge) but that idea, in my opinion, is unlikely.
OH MY GOD, I love this idea!
but the only question is, if it's a prequel, then what was the deal with Scarecrow's secret boat lair? I thought that was supposed to be the hook for the sequel like the hidden room in the first game was
but the only question is, if it's a prequel, then what was the deal with Scarecrow's secret boat lair? I thought that was supposed to be the hook for the sequel like the hidden room in the first game was
First of all @Xi Fayt iX, the killing joke isn't canon, and the video game universe is separate to what was established in the comics, so them changing his origin is allowed, even though I strongly argue that the joker shouldn't have an origin. Also @Elijah Fly, Joker's body, in Arkham city: Endgame, was cremated, making his resurrection in a Lazarus Pit impossible. The only other option is to use a Cadmus Clone (as hinted at in Harley Quinn's Revenge) but that idea, in my opinion, is unlikely.
@ slypanther98 -
"the killing joke isn't canon"
It was before the New 52 thing. I know Batgirl can walk again but not how it happened. Did they pull a Brand New Day and pretend she had never been crippled in the first place? I haven't been keeping up so I'm not sure if it's still canon or not.
...btw, stuff like this is why Nolan Batman is best Batman
"the killing joke isn't canon"
It was before the New 52 thing. I know Batgirl can walk again but not how it happened. Did they pull a Brand New Day and pretend she had never been crippled in the first place? I haven't been keeping up so I'm not sure if it's still canon or not.
...btw, stuff like this is why Nolan Batman is best Batman
Answering my own question here;
>Barbara Gordon recovers from her paralysis following a surgical procedure
So yeah, the events of The Killing Joke took place in regular continuity.
You're still right in what you meant though, because what was presented there wasn't a literal interpretation of Joker's origin. Remember how he gives like, three different accounts of his beginnings in The Dark Knight? He's crazy as hell and so is Alan Moore.
Also, I'm a geek. :)
>Barbara Gordon recovers from her paralysis following a surgical procedure
So yeah, the events of The Killing Joke took place in regular continuity.
You're still right in what you meant though, because what was presented there wasn't a literal interpretation of Joker's origin. Remember how he gives like, three different accounts of his beginnings in The Dark Knight? He's crazy as hell and so is Alan Moore.
Also, I'm a geek. :)
Hmm.... well that's certainly interesting. I haven't played Arkham City yet, but I had the ending spoiled for me unfortunately. I was curious where they were going to go after that. Looks like they're gonna go back instead of forward. I like that, idea. I don't know how they're gonna get Hamill to play the Joker again. He only barely came back to do B:AA in the first place.
Anywho. PS4/Nextbox launch window maybe? One can only hope...
Anywho. PS4/Nextbox launch window maybe? One can only hope...
"It'll tell the story of how Batman first met The Joker.."
Its a rumor, so I know how that shit goes, but I sure hope its just a rumor. The idea of going back to the Silver Age is great, but I'm kind of sick of the Joker.
I also don't know if I'll be able to stomach anyone else being the Joker in this game, since Hamill's retired from the voice. I watch DC's direct to video animation (seriously, check it out, its all WAAAAY better then most of their theatrical live action movies), and any time someone else does Joker it literally makes me sick, cause they never get it "right". And forget abotu whoever did the voice for Lego Batman (Christopher Corey Smith, who's great in MANY other roles I've heard him in, but just isn't as joker), he's just not joker.
Overall though, The Harley Quinn DLC did jack shit to really give us any real solid feeling of what Batman was going through because of the Joker's death, aside from some exposition at the beginning, and THATS what they need to explore more -meaning they need to move forward, not back. Unless the Silver Age stuff turns out to be FLASHBACKS, then thats a pretty great idea to throw in, if it helps to move on from senselessly beating a dead horse.
A silver age DC game in general would be great, but if they're going to stick with Batman and Joker then I don't know. I won't pass, but I'll be gritting my teeth a little.
@Hystzen
Hamill won't be the Joker any more. Arkham City was supposed to be the last time he was ever doing the voice. He's retired from the role because its almost like Luke Skywalker to him, it's given him a good life, but its pretty much consumed his career.
Its a rumor, so I know how that shit goes, but I sure hope its just a rumor. The idea of going back to the Silver Age is great, but I'm kind of sick of the Joker.
I also don't know if I'll be able to stomach anyone else being the Joker in this game, since Hamill's retired from the voice. I watch DC's direct to video animation (seriously, check it out, its all WAAAAY better then most of their theatrical live action movies), and any time someone else does Joker it literally makes me sick, cause they never get it "right". And forget abotu whoever did the voice for Lego Batman (Christopher Corey Smith, who's great in MANY other roles I've heard him in, but just isn't as joker), he's just not joker.
Overall though, The Harley Quinn DLC did jack shit to really give us any real solid feeling of what Batman was going through because of the Joker's death, aside from some exposition at the beginning, and THATS what they need to explore more -meaning they need to move forward, not back. Unless the Silver Age stuff turns out to be FLASHBACKS, then thats a pretty great idea to throw in, if it helps to move on from senselessly beating a dead horse.
A silver age DC game in general would be great, but if they're going to stick with Batman and Joker then I don't know. I won't pass, but I'll be gritting my teeth a little.
@Hystzen
Hamill won't be the Joker any more. Arkham City was supposed to be the last time he was ever doing the voice. He's retired from the role because its almost like Luke Skywalker to him, it's given him a good life, but its pretty much consumed his career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d8srLbNih0
"That single statement indicates to me the first oncoming thrust of manhood, old chum."
"That single statement indicates to me the first oncoming thrust of manhood, old chum."
I'm sick and tired of the Joker. Enough already. Any other villain is preferable. Hopefully no more Joker tagalongs like Harley Quinn either.
Not sure if really want.
I love Batman, I grew up on Batman in the 80's.
And I still own some decent Silver Age Bat comics...
But the Batman I really love is the dark, serious one. The Silver Age stuff is fun, but I can't take it very seriously. I know it laid the groundwork, and of course I appreciate that. But I just can't help but feel that this isn't MY Batman. I'd still buy the game, because it's Batman, but I'm not sure how much I'd enjoy it.
That said I've never liked Batman's involvement in the Justice League. I mean, I'm glad he's there as he's my favorite hero by far, but it's just not something Batman would do, joining them I mean. He's so out of character and out of his element with the JL.
Of course Silver Age Batman IS NOT out of character in being alongside the Justice League, so that does work with the setting.
All the same, time will tell. Could be amazing.
I love Batman, I grew up on Batman in the 80's.
And I still own some decent Silver Age Bat comics...
But the Batman I really love is the dark, serious one. The Silver Age stuff is fun, but I can't take it very seriously. I know it laid the groundwork, and of course I appreciate that. But I just can't help but feel that this isn't MY Batman. I'd still buy the game, because it's Batman, but I'm not sure how much I'd enjoy it.
That said I've never liked Batman's involvement in the Justice League. I mean, I'm glad he's there as he's my favorite hero by far, but it's just not something Batman would do, joining them I mean. He's so out of character and out of his element with the JL.
Of course Silver Age Batman IS NOT out of character in being alongside the Justice League, so that does work with the setting.
All the same, time will tell. Could be amazing.
I'm getting a brave and the bold vibe from this. Put Plastic-man in this and I'll buy 10 copies. Nice to know they're taking a different route with this new game.
BATMAN!!!!
I'm confident Rocksteady can rock Batman in any setting, but as some other folks have already mentioned they dropped plenty of teasers with Hush, Scarecrow, and Azreal. Unless they've got two games in the pipe I'd be pretty shocked if this were true. Damn happy, but damn shocked!
I'm confident Rocksteady can rock Batman in any setting, but as some other folks have already mentioned they dropped plenty of teasers with Hush, Scarecrow, and Azreal. Unless they've got two games in the pipe I'd be pretty shocked if this were true. Damn happy, but damn shocked!
And in video games and comics there's always a way to bring back a good villain like the Joker. Even in a sequel.
Clone him, make him look a little different due to Titan in his blood, and have Joe Dimaggio do the voice. He did a bitchin job of Joker in Under the Red Hood!
Clone him, make him look a little different due to Titan in his blood, and have Joe Dimaggio do the voice. He did a bitchin job of Joker in Under the Red Hood!
This sounds awesome. Look at this as a new Batman game and less as a prequel. I am all for a complete visual overhaul. Sequels tend to get stale over time.
When I first played AA it was the perfect Batman anything I have ever experience, but a new direction sounds amazing seeing as how just more of the same will make the Arkham titles less special visually.
I remember when COD4 came out and I was blown away by the realistic style and color correction, but now it doesn't have the same appeal. And I am not talking Graphical fidelity, those games haven't looked good since 2007.
When I first played AA it was the perfect Batman anything I have ever experience, but a new direction sounds amazing seeing as how just more of the same will make the Arkham titles less special visually.
I remember when COD4 came out and I was blown away by the realistic style and color correction, but now it doesn't have the same appeal. And I am not talking Graphical fidelity, those games haven't looked good since 2007.
If this is true then why would they put Hush and Azrael in the Arkham City. As much as I'd love to see Rocksteady do anything with Hal Jordan I don't think this is going to work or is true.
Let's not forget that Silver Age doesn't *just* mean the late 50s. The Denny O'Neil/Neil Adams Batman of the 70s also tends to get lumped in with the Silver Age; speculating only by the inclusion of the Neil Adams Batsuit DLC for Arkham City, I can only cross my fingers and hope we get 70s Batman rather than 50s Batman...
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