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Dam all this bad news about the 3DS recently like the battery life, region coding and now this is all making the 3DS less interesting to me
http://nintendo3dsblog.com/ confirmed this on their YouTube account: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuchAVdB25I
@Black Nexus
No, they haven't. Because while they'll spit out things like motion controls and glasses free 3D, they are still slow as shit to adopt standard technologies that are in the now, like DVD, HD, and a good internet multiplayer system.
No, they haven't. Because while they'll spit out things like motion controls and glasses free 3D, they are still slow as shit to adopt standard technologies that are in the now, like DVD, HD, and a good internet multiplayer system.
The 3DS is getting worse all the time! I could live with the battery life, but $50 games, and now this? Enh. It's almost like Nintendo is going overboard with its cockiness, and KNOWS people will still eat it up.
Any word on whether or not Nintendo Points (IE Nintendo cash) will work simultaneously on the Wii and 3DS? I absolutely loathe that the DSi store and Wii store are different currencies. Even Sony got it right with the PSP and PS3!
@Waterman
On Xbox Live, Steam, or PSN, my name is "Magnalon". I simply tell you that, and you can friend me.
On the Wii or DS, you need "friend codes". They're randomly generated numbers such as 112-121-442: I have to dictate that to you to friend you, and often times, I can ONLY play games with friend coded people. It's archaic.
Any word on whether or not Nintendo Points (IE Nintendo cash) will work simultaneously on the Wii and 3DS? I absolutely loathe that the DSi store and Wii store are different currencies. Even Sony got it right with the PSP and PS3!
@Waterman
On Xbox Live, Steam, or PSN, my name is "Magnalon". I simply tell you that, and you can friend me.
On the Wii or DS, you need "friend codes". They're randomly generated numbers such as 112-121-442: I have to dictate that to you to friend you, and often times, I can ONLY play games with friend coded people. It's archaic.
It's not the friend codes that are the problem, it's how they're integrated. If you can add a friend code into the system and have that person show up as a friend in every game you both have, it's fine. If you have to add a different friend code for every game (along with all the communication limitations in nintendo software), then it will be horrible.
If it was just one universal system code, that's used across all the games, than that would be totally acceptable. But I don't see the freaking point of having one code for every single online game that you own. Its just stupid to have to share a code for every online game. So I hope we'll find out for sure next week, at Nintendo's media event in New York City.
Its a easy fix for them to do, so I hope Nintendo doesn't make the same mistake, for the 3rd systems in a row. It sucked last gen on the DS, and Wii, so hopefully they learned they're lesson with the 3DS, and whatever there next home console is. One system code would work just as well as friend coeds for every game, but it wouldn't be such a hassle to the end user!
Its a easy fix for them to do, so I hope Nintendo doesn't make the same mistake, for the 3rd systems in a row. It sucked last gen on the DS, and Wii, so hopefully they learned they're lesson with the 3DS, and whatever there next home console is. One system code would work just as well as friend coeds for every game, but it wouldn't be such a hassle to the end user!
well it's not like I was expecting anything better from nintendo.
my only hope is better psn integration for the psp2
still I'm getting both
my only hope is better psn integration for the psp2
still I'm getting both
So how is this different from "friend someone on Xbox Live, never see them on the games you play again?"
Personally, I find the "popular" method to invasive for my liking. If I can be buggered to make you my "online pal," its going to be something I know we'll both be playing.
Personally, I find the "popular" method to invasive for my liking. If I can be buggered to make you my "online pal," its going to be something I know we'll both be playing.
No, jim, please, no more 3ds news, it's turning a firehose on my enthusiasm. First the 3-5 hour battery life, then maybe region coding, then possibly $50 games, then the friend code system coming back? I hope Nintendo isn't getting cocky and thinking that because they beat the PSP last time they can do it again without any trouble.
Software lineup still looks amazing though, and that's what ultimately determines a system's success.
Software lineup still looks amazing though, and that's what ultimately determines a system's success.
I don't care. Just want a U.S price already and even then it doesn't matter because I'm buying two. SON.
It's no surprise that Nintendo's decisions are driven by their target demographic - children. They're just not interested in our wants.
I'll continue reluctantly buying every major new system from them just for the single player first party games, which is probably all they expect from me.
I'll continue reluctantly buying every major new system from them just for the single player first party games, which is probably all they expect from me.
Spending roughly twenty hours on Fallout New Vegas this week, I've regained faith in gaming on my own. Forget socialising!
I'm not too fussed Nintendo, as long as you let me Download Play with three others in the inevitable Smash Bros 3DS.
Ideally there would be one universal friend code.
I'm not too fussed Nintendo, as long as you let me Download Play with three others in the inevitable Smash Bros 3DS.
Ideally there would be one universal friend code.
@Silent
For XBLA it's all about the parties, son. Joining a party with people regardless of the game they're playing is fun, and you can easily just convince people to game hop by looking through their achievements and seeing what they have.
It's a brilliant system.
For XBLA it's all about the parties, son. Joining a party with people regardless of the game they're playing is fun, and you can easily just convince people to game hop by looking through their achievements and seeing what they have.
It's a brilliant system.
@Everyone
Battery life, $50 games and the price of the system has never been officially confirmed by Nintendo. Calm the fuck down.
Battery life, $50 games and the price of the system has never been officially confirmed by Nintendo. Calm the fuck down.
For when news of the 3hr battery life just wasn't bad enough.... not that I ever really used friend codes save with my friend on like one game.
I mean for the most part I don't really give two shakes who the hell that stupid good sniper from Metroid Hunters was or that Guy who must have been cheating at Mariocart because NO ONE is that good :P
In a way its a non issue but still a horrible inconvenience when you have to deal with it :(
I mean for the most part I don't really give two shakes who the hell that stupid good sniper from Metroid Hunters was or that Guy who must have been cheating at Mariocart because NO ONE is that good :P
In a way its a non issue but still a horrible inconvenience when you have to deal with it :(
hopefully, it's a one time system code situation. i wouldn't mind having to swap codes with my friends ONCE. if they keep the same system as the wii/ds, the online functions for 3ds are dead before it even launches.
What few online enabled games PSP and DS have, I've been content to play with randoms.
And that was mostly just Tetris DS and Phantasy Star Portable 2. Online gaming might be a bigger deal with 3DS and PSP2, but I just don't see it getting any more social than it was before.
And that was mostly just Tetris DS and Phantasy Star Portable 2. Online gaming might be a bigger deal with 3DS and PSP2, but I just don't see it getting any more social than it was before.
The problem here aren't, as some said, the codes thenselves; its the lack of a decent online plataform, like sony and microsoft have. The current one (or lack thereof)is archaic. I guess nintendo wont bother to do it while they can get away without the investment - they may be somewhat bold with hardware, but thats it.
I'm sorry guys, but why would Nintendo have learned ANYTHING from the Wii? It was, by far, the most successful console of the last generation. In Nintendo's eyes, they did everything exactly right, so why wouldn't they want to continue doing things the same way?
Regardless of what Nintendo does, we just keep rewarding them because they release a new Mario and Zelda game every couple of years. We revere them as innovative geniuses for creating a new control scheme that, for most types of games, is a step behind what was already out. When they make a mistake or release a terrible game that puts a permanent stain on a franchise (Other M anybody?) we just let it slide because, well, they're Nintendo. They've got their game on lock. Lower your standards and beat you with mediocrity. I've seen games hailed as masterpieces on Wii that would only slide as downloadable titles on other current-gen consoles.
Now I'm not saying that the Wii doesn't have any good games. There are a bunch of great games on Wii, they just don't get released nearly as often as on other consoles. We just kinda let that slide too. We let a lot of stuff slide. Hey, they made Zelda.
Sorry if this post offends anyone.
Regardless of what Nintendo does, we just keep rewarding them because they release a new Mario and Zelda game every couple of years. We revere them as innovative geniuses for creating a new control scheme that, for most types of games, is a step behind what was already out. When they make a mistake or release a terrible game that puts a permanent stain on a franchise (Other M anybody?) we just let it slide because, well, they're Nintendo. They've got their game on lock. Lower your standards and beat you with mediocrity. I've seen games hailed as masterpieces on Wii that would only slide as downloadable titles on other current-gen consoles.
Now I'm not saying that the Wii doesn't have any good games. There are a bunch of great games on Wii, they just don't get released nearly as often as on other consoles. We just kinda let that slide too. We let a lot of stuff slide. Hey, they made Zelda.
Sorry if this post offends anyone.
I wouldn't be against Friend Codes if it were a universal system, tied to the console itself rather than individual games.
A nice advantage would be naming. Since users aren't tied to their account names but rather a unique code, you could have thousands of "SuperMario1337" accounts without any problem. (Of course, it's not like anyone ever takes "LoftyTheMetroid"...)
However, if Friend Codes are tied to individual games, I will be incredibly upset. I'm already thinking about delaying my 3DS purchase as it is (mostly because I don't think I can afford it at launch, not because I don't want it...).
A nice advantage would be naming. Since users aren't tied to their account names but rather a unique code, you could have thousands of "SuperMario1337" accounts without any problem. (Of course, it's not like anyone ever takes "LoftyTheMetroid"...)
However, if Friend Codes are tied to individual games, I will be incredibly upset. I'm already thinking about delaying my 3DS purchase as it is (mostly because I don't think I can afford it at launch, not because I don't want it...).
Guy 1: Hey guy, I want to be your friend.
Guy 2: 1234563256753421
Guy 1: I don't want to be friends anymore.
Guy 2: 1234563256753421
Guy 1: I don't want to be friends anymore.
1) Didn't they say that the friend codes would be a one-time thing you logged onto your system? Sounds like that site (as well as the comments section :D) is kinda blowing things out of proportion without knowing whether they're referring to game friend codes or system friend codes. :|
2) Even if it was game friend codes, it doesn't really bother me, since all it means is that I have to punch in some numbers to be able to fight a friend.
2) Even if it was game friend codes, it doesn't really bother me, since all it means is that I have to punch in some numbers to be able to fight a friend.
@Silent
I guess. It's cool to not be super social on video game networks, but trekking my computer close to my console just to conference while playing XBLA games is lame.
I don't see what the problem is if you, and a bunch of friends enjoy XBLA, and don't mind playing together on an easy to use system - a system that's actually easier to use than the Wii/DS's cobbled friend system/Wii Speak.
I guess. It's cool to not be super social on video game networks, but trekking my computer close to my console just to conference while playing XBLA games is lame.
I don't see what the problem is if you, and a bunch of friends enjoy XBLA, and don't mind playing together on an easy to use system - a system that's actually easier to use than the Wii/DS's cobbled friend system/Wii Speak.
I love how the Internet reacts to speculation. It's like watching germs from a microscope. Very fascinating.
Supposed low battery life, and region locking on a handheld.
And now godamn friend codes, they're too much of a burden to set up. Guess I'll be playing online with random people that I will never be able to talk to.
Doesn't Nintendo know that most "families" don't even use friend codes?
And now godamn friend codes, they're too much of a burden to set up. Guess I'll be playing online with random people that I will never be able to talk to.
Doesn't Nintendo know that most "families" don't even use friend codes?
UGH.
Maxxthepenguin summed up my thoughts pretty well:
"It's not the friend codes that are the problem, it's how they're integrated. If you can add a friend code into the system and have that person show up as a friend in every game you both have, it's fine. If you have to add a different friend code for every game (along with all the communication limitations in nintendo software), then it will be horrible."
Seriously, Microsoft has been doing this successfully since the fucking original Xbox. Nintendo needs to join the 21st century.
Maxxthepenguin summed up my thoughts pretty well:
"It's not the friend codes that are the problem, it's how they're integrated. If you can add a friend code into the system and have that person show up as a friend in every game you both have, it's fine. If you have to add a different friend code for every game (along with all the communication limitations in nintendo software), then it will be horrible."
Seriously, Microsoft has been doing this successfully since the fucking original Xbox. Nintendo needs to join the 21st century.
I don't doubt it. Nintendo has used it in the past for both the Wii and DS, so why not their next system?
@The Silent Protagonist
"Personally, I find the 'popular' method to invasive for my liking. If I can be buggered to make you my "online pal," its going to be something I know we'll both be playing."
...and then when you and your new pal decide to play another game together, you get to exchange codes yet again!
And again and again and again and again...
"Personally, I find the 'popular' method to invasive for my liking. If I can be buggered to make you my "online pal," its going to be something I know we'll both be playing."
...and then when you and your new pal decide to play another game together, you get to exchange codes yet again!
And again and again and again and again...
The one thing I really hated about friend codes is how inconvenient it made online play for pokemon!
NO play with randoms, only way to play was to go online into some forum and find someone willing to battle, exchange the codes, play a game or two, probably never meet them again and do the whole process over again.....
Such a pain in the ass, and most of these people use special "forum rules" that I don't necessarily agree with/want to use like banning pokemon and moves.
It sucks because I was so excited when I heard pokemon was getting online play and FC's killed it for me :(
NO play with randoms, only way to play was to go online into some forum and find someone willing to battle, exchange the codes, play a game or two, probably never meet them again and do the whole process over again.....
Such a pain in the ass, and most of these people use special "forum rules" that I don't necessarily agree with/want to use like banning pokemon and moves.
It sucks because I was so excited when I heard pokemon was getting online play and FC's killed it for me :(
The Friend Codes system is kind of clumsy, but after you get used to it, it's not that bad. I can deal with it
@-PL-
Very good post. I think you hit the nail on the head. It's not good overall to keep giving a business a free pass. Nintendo has as much room for improvement as Microsoft or Sony, but people tend to fly off the handle if someone even implies that.
That being said, the video game market will flat-out eat a company for being arrogant. Nintendo should know this, they thought they owned the market but got slapped down by the PS2, then Sony got smacked down after thinking they owned the market because of the PS2.
The bottom line is that Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft could all do things better in one way or another. None of them are above criticism.
Very good post. I think you hit the nail on the head. It's not good overall to keep giving a business a free pass. Nintendo has as much room for improvement as Microsoft or Sony, but people tend to fly off the handle if someone even implies that.
That being said, the video game market will flat-out eat a company for being arrogant. Nintendo should know this, they thought they owned the market but got slapped down by the PS2, then Sony got smacked down after thinking they owned the market because of the PS2.
The bottom line is that Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft could all do things better in one way or another. None of them are above criticism.
I am under the belief it'll use universal FCs for every system. Because why would Capcom use it otherwise?
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