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This is a good thing. If they actually have to pay up maybe the next xbox wont be such a frankenstein
Patents are the biggest detriment to technology ever. Patents are great for physical inventions (stuff like engineering tools and machines) but no one knew hundreds of years ago that digital technology would be a thing and that it would advance as quickly as it does now. Ultimately patents keep people from expanding into new territory and the length a patent remains in effect (20 years in most cases) is also a driving factor in how utterly destructive they are to the technological world.
im a PS3 player but this is ridiculous. Removing the xbox is just stupid, people will be pissed and its not gonna go down well. Stop this useless shit and sort yourselves out Motorola and Microsoft.
@cow: So how do you incentivize tech development without patents? What is my reason to work if I don't get paid?
I swear it's like every week, there's another reason to start building that badass PC I've been planning out.
I'll always find it weird to see Obama's name come up during video game news, or any high political figure for that matter. Things like this make me reflect on the supposed simplicity of gaming's past.
Right, here's a relevant quote from this article:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-02-motorola-wins-injunction-against-windows-7-and-xbox-360-in-germany
"A judge at the German Mannheim Regional Court today ruled against Microsoft in the case of four lawsuits filed by Motorola relating to patents that cover the H.264 video encoding standard - the format in which roughly 80 per cent of all digital videos are recorded."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2403436,00.asp
"..... Microsoft has infringed on four Motorola patents with its Xbox gaming console.
Three of those patents are considered "essential" patents, or part of FRAND (fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory) licensing obligations. FRAND holds that if a company holds a patent on a technology that is essential to a particular industry, they should make every effort to license that technology, even to major rivals."
Why is Motorola just focusing on Microsoft? And why did they wait so long to file a case against them?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-02-motorola-wins-injunction-against-windows-7-and-xbox-360-in-germany
"A judge at the German Mannheim Regional Court today ruled against Microsoft in the case of four lawsuits filed by Motorola relating to patents that cover the H.264 video encoding standard - the format in which roughly 80 per cent of all digital videos are recorded."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2403436,00.asp
"..... Microsoft has infringed on four Motorola patents with its Xbox gaming console.
Three of those patents are considered "essential" patents, or part of FRAND (fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory) licensing obligations. FRAND holds that if a company holds a patent on a technology that is essential to a particular industry, they should make every effort to license that technology, even to major rivals."
Why is Motorola just focusing on Microsoft? And why did they wait so long to file a case against them?
So, they cut corners to save money, then they had to pay through the nose to make up for it, now they could be facing more losses.
Is the lesson here not to cut corners, or is it not to be Microsoft? I'm confused.
Is the lesson here not to cut corners, or is it not to be Microsoft? I'm confused.
Hmm...A ban on Xbox? A ban on Motorola smartphones and tablets? I think there are more pressing matters in this world than a digital patent infringement, or four. However, as deathmetalpizza said, I guess I'll start working on my PC so I can make the transfer to PC gaming and away from console gaming faster. Some games won't feel the same though.
@Icehearted
As Infinitestrike pointed out above, the H.264 video compression codec is an industry standard and is used in quite a bit of tech. In fact, it's used in Windows 7. That's why it's quite strange Motorola is backing out of their promise to let companies fairly use it, and the fact that they're targeting Microsoft all of a sudden.
As Infinitestrike pointed out above, the H.264 video compression codec is an industry standard and is used in quite a bit of tech. In fact, it's used in Windows 7. That's why it's quite strange Motorola is backing out of their promise to let companies fairly use it, and the fact that they're targeting Microsoft all of a sudden.
Motorola is playing a game here. Many devices and computers has had the codec running without Motorola's express consent. Codecs usually have a generalized copyright to them. That said, MS should settle. But a dingy little codec aspect should. not result in such a huge percentile. Nintendo and Sony were victimized by this deal in the past as well.
Motorola looks more and more desperate with every fleeting attempt at sucking money out of another company. What's the deal? You'd think with all the google and Andeoid backing that they'd be relatively financially stable..
>Microsoft is quite confident the Commission will ultimately rule in their favor, citing that Motorola will be "held to its promise to make its standard essential patents available on fair and reasonable terms for the benefit of consumers who enjoy video on the web."
Wow. You're right on this one, Microsoft, because you benefit from it, but you are flaming fucking hypocrites. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Wow. You're right on this one, Microsoft, because you benefit from it, but you are flaming fucking hypocrites. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
I'm no law major or anything, but I don't see a problem with patent laws and technology. If you want to use something, either get permission or modify it enough so that it's transformative. If someone has their tech/ideas used without their permission, it's no better than physically breaking into their house and stealing their property.
This is the first I've heard of this Microsoft/Motorola thing, so I don't know all the details. But if Motorola did in fact say that anyone could use this particular thing of theirs, and now they're revoking that statement, then yeah, this is a totally different situation. But if I created something that became standard, and everyone just assumed it was up for grabs, then yes, I'd be pissed if it were used without consulting me first unless I made the license available to whoever in the first place.
@AriesSiren
You don't like the Xbox, so Microsoft should be penalized. Nope, can't argue with rock-solid logic like that.
This is the first I've heard of this Microsoft/Motorola thing, so I don't know all the details. But if Motorola did in fact say that anyone could use this particular thing of theirs, and now they're revoking that statement, then yeah, this is a totally different situation. But if I created something that became standard, and everyone just assumed it was up for grabs, then yes, I'd be pissed if it were used without consulting me first unless I made the license available to whoever in the first place.
@AriesSiren
You don't like the Xbox, so Microsoft should be penalized. Nope, can't argue with rock-solid logic like that.
@WoodyBBad: Are you getting paid for your invention 20 years down the line long after it has been obsolete and replaced by something else? And there are other methods of protecting your work. A patent is literally an exclusion clause: it removes anyone else from the equation. It protects your ideas long enough to develop them but you have squatters who patent designs without ever intending to use them. They're the equivalent of internet squatters who buy up a ton of URLs that will never expire as long as they pay their $10 a year for it.
They wanted to pull every video from the web that use H.264 at one point. Tall about something that would be detrimental. Fucking codec Nazis.
'Merica
Fuck yeah!
Lawsuits
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Patent trolling
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Lawyers
FUCK YEAH!
Seriously, this is fucking stupid.
Fuck yeah!
Lawsuits
Fuck Yeah!
Patent trolling
Fuck yeah!
Lawyers
FUCK YEAH!
Seriously, this is fucking stupid.
Sigh, more ridiculous patent garbage. Patents are destroying technological advancement not protecting it.
@Klein Smith no she didn't and your story falls apart at "my co-worker's ex-wife" thats like saying in the 80's that my freind's dads uncle works at nintendo and he tells me all the cheat codes before nintendo power gets them
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