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Rock Band 2 allows you to delete musical nemesis 'Green Grass and High Tides' photo

No disrespect to The Outlaws, but I absolutely despise their song "Green Grass and High Tides." For me, the ten-minute southern rock monster stands as a blemish on the track listing of Harmonix's first Rock Band game. And it's not just because I can't get through the song on Expert guitar, and probably never will be able to. The song itself makes me gag a little bit; it's simply not my "thing."

So I was both elated and upset when I heard that you'd be able to export Rock Band 1 tracks to the upcoming Rock Band 2 for a small licensing fee (reportedly less than $5). Would this mean that I would still have to fear "Green Grass and High Tides" appearing in a mystery set list? So I asked: could I not import the offending track into my Rock Band 2 library?

"You could port it over and delete it from your memory," Harmonix's John Drake told me, "like you manage every other song from downloadable content."

He was quick to point out that this wouldn't be done in-game, and would be managed entirely through your console, on the back end. But let me repeat the import part for you guys: I can delete "Green Grass and High Tides" from Rock Band. This is key, folks, and should apply to any Rock Band 1 song you're not particularly fond of.

It should also be noted that you won't be able to port over all of the original game's songs to Rock Band 2; licensing issues may not allow for it. While Harmonix aren't willing to commit and say what songs will carry over, Drake did promise it would be a good handful, saying it would be "more than 50."

One of them had better be "Green Grass and High Tides," because I'm already working on the maniacal laugh I'm going belt out when I delete the bastard from my hard drive this September.








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Zerozaki Ishiki's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:39
Zerozaki Ishiki
Yes! No more "I Get By"!
Xenomorph52's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:40
Xenomorph52
That song is good. >:(
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:44
Kif
That second solo, the drumming, it's too much.

I could barely beat the drums on medium!
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:48
Magesx
THIS JUST IN NICK HATES MUSIC
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:50
F Whipple
awww...I liked that song

can't beat it though
MissHinasaki's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:50
MissHinasaki
Fuck that song!
paulink's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:50
paulink
haha, I soon grew a great appreciation for GGAHT so ill probably keep it. can't really think about songs deleting, like having a broad library to play from.
AKK's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:51
AKK
The drumming is ridiculously easy.

Also, I hope Main Offender just doesn't make it on. That would be awesome. I hate that song with a firey burning passion.

I really hope Enter Sandman isn't one of the songs with licensing issues.

That would make me really sad, and incredibly unsurprised.
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:52
galagabug
worst. song. ever.
Stahlbrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:55
Stahlbrand
GGaHT I don't hate as much as I had thought I would, and I did beat it on expert - EVENTUALLY - to get the Lord of the Strings achievement.

This is great news however, because I'll never have to hear, let alone play "The Police - Next To You" or "Fallout Boy - Just Shoot Me in the Fucking Face Instead" again.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 11:58
king3vbo
AWESOME
ThunderHeartXI's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 12:03
ThunderHeartXI
I'm okay with the song 'Green Grass and High Tides' but god damn, did it have to be ten minute opus of failure and muscle stress? It's the only song that stands between me and finishing off the expert set list, but I always bomb at 88%. I get too fatigued to carry on and I've never been good with that whole switching between the three buttons like a mad man.

Other than that, it's good to hear that I won't have to play Fall Out Boy ever again on Rock Band. Granted that FOB isn't on Rock Band 2. Which if it is that is definitely putting a sale in jeopardy.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 12:13
Holyetheline
The end of the second solo on Expert is so hellishly hard that it just pisses me off.
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 12:16
Nick Chester
You think this song is hard? Oh boy, have I got something to show you guys later today or tomorrow. Whoo boy.
Electro Lemon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 12:23
Electro Lemon
I hate when Nick teases like that, because it means I'm not sleeping until I see it. Damn you, Brutal!

I beat GGaHT a while ago on Expert, and I don't care to ever play it again. But who doesn't like The Police? I mean, come on.
RollingZeppelin's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 12:30
RollingZeppelin
YAY no more FoB!!! They should seriously do this with the entire playlist so i can delete the songs i hate off rock band 2's setlist aswell.
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 12:48
Nick Chester
@RollingZeppelin:

Unfortunately, the songs for RB 2 are right on the disc, and not individual files you can manage. :( When Rock Band 3 comes out you can delete Rock Band 2 songs, maybe!
mrberns's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 12:54
mrberns
You mean I won't have to recognize the existence of Fall Out Boy and their absolute shit ear pollution anymore? WOOOOOOOOOOO Woooooo wooooo.
ConsummateK's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 12:59
ConsummateK
I get elitist happiness from articles like this.

I get this urge to go "HAHA YOU PUSSIES I DESTROY THAT SONG"

But that would be a pretty douchebag move...so I suppose I wont.

....

>.>
MasterSplinterGS's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 13:04
MasterSplinterGS
GGaHT is an awesome song. The zig-zags in the second solo kicked my ass until i realized just to play the middle fret as much as possible.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 13:06
Char Aznable
If Nick, Dtoid's resident Rock Band aficionado, can't beat the song on expert, I feel a little better about my repeated failure. I love the song on its own, but forget playing that part at 88%.

This is also my first time hearing that not all of the songs from RB would transfer over to RB2. Shitty.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 13:11
Dan CiTi
FALL OUT BOY IS THE DEVIL. VALVE IS HILARIOUS. FOB'S MUSIC IS THE WORST EVAR.



On a serious note, people are idiots and Fall Out Boy *used to* be good at what they do. Dead On Arrival is a fun song.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 13:11
Knivy
I have no problems with this song, there's a moment once it stops pissing you off where you start to like it (maybe alcohol helps get to there)
elsiluro's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 13:19
elsiluro
Sure, you'll delete it. But then you'll cry when you play any of the following songs:

Megadeth - Peace Sells
Dream Theater - Panic Attack
Steely Dan - Bodhisattva

Oh yeah, and Fall Out Boy can eat a dick.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 13:22
EternalDeathSlayer
You don't like that song? Do you at least appreciate it's beauty? Sure, it's their only REAL hit song, but it's an amazing one. You're just mad cause you can't beat it.

Neither can I.
Rockefellow's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 13:46
Rockefellow
Jeez, now I can't stop thinking of whatever you just hinted at, Nick. Hopefully it's Rock Band-related, because for some reason I think of that Dragonforce pack coming out.
Rockefellow's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 13:46
Rockefellow
*For Guitar Hero, of course.
Pain's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 13:54
Pain
Well, good that it's able to be removed.

Is the licensing fee per-song, or for the entire thing?
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 14:58
Syn
GGaHT is probably my favorite song to play. And I had so much trouble with the end until I tried using both hands on the solo frets to play it. Hold down the green, tap the yellow with your index finger of your right hand, then tap red with the middle finger of your left hand twice, then repeat. Good stuff.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 15:08
Char Aznable
Sweet. Thanks for the tip, Syn. I'll have to try that when I get home from work.
EX35's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 15:18
EX35
Ah jesus here we go. lol.

Green Grass and High Tides is actually one of my favorite songs in the game...BECAUSE it's so insane...but then again, there are songs that are more difficult than this song. Period.

The Thrasher pack anyone? 'Constant Motion' by Dream Theater? And I can name other songs that just makes SOME Guitar Hero songs seem like a joke in terms of the note chart.

I guess I'm a glutton for punishment and I would love some insane songs in Rock Band...like Dragonforce, Rhapsody, and maybe some Pantera...and more Dreamtheater...

Again...imo. Also, if a freakin song is SOOOO difficult, just change the difficulty...not hard.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 15:49
Syn
@EX35: I'm with you, I love to play the bone crushingly difficult songs. Only the song Thrasher is really that bad out of the thrasher pack though, I can't strum nearly fast enough, and my arm gets tired.
I think Through the Fire and Flames would be much easier if you had access to solo frets and just the whole song was solo. Or at least the beginning, and then the solos, and the solo fill.
But if you want some awesome guitar work, you should check out Jeff Loomis of Nevermore, I think he just released a solo album that's all instrumental, it's pretty sick. And Nevermore's music is just filled with awesome solos (See "The Psalm of Lydia").

Lastly: How DARE you suggest moving down in difficulty!
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 16:11
Syn
@Char Aznable: Oh yeah, I hope it works for you, it still takes some work after that, but at least you're not trying to move your fingers in that quick tiny ass pattern. I was able to get up to a 4x multiplier the first time I tried it without fucking up
Phish's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 16:41
Phish
I like the song, too. I guess the feature to delete songs is cool? Is it?
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 16:52
Darren Nakamura
Keep at it, Nick. I thought I'd never beat it on Expert, but after a few weeks, I got it. Use the high frets during the super fast parts, and save your Overdrive for when you know you need it.
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 16:54
Nick Chester
Really, this post was less about how much I hate the song (I do), and more about how you'll be able to customize the experience a bit. Really, I think it's great that people who have the game can delete "Green Grass" or even "Say It Ain't So" if they wish.

And I don't really hate the difficulty as much as I truly just don't like the song. :D
Agent Orange's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2008 20:14
Agent Orange
I can add "Painkiller" by Judas Priest as another song that will kill your... pain... or something.

Hoorah, I can delete most of those damn bonus tracks. Fallout Boy was and still is good at what they do. The problem is whatever it is they do is terrible.
brandon85's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 10:40
brandon85
Interesting, so can you delete dlc songs off the rock band list? I accidently downloaded some pretty awful stuff in my early rock band cravings. Grateful dead can suck my balls. I want it gone. How do I delete dlc songs from my game? Help!
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 15:13
Nick Chester
@brandon85:

Go to your console's memory, and you should see individual files for all of your DLC.
The Trout's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/22/2008 13:39
The Trout
If only as a huge joke, they should make it so that "Dani California," "Enter Sandman," and "Welcome Home" can't transfer. People online won't know what songs to play anymore!
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