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If your gonna blow 500 bones on a 24" "monitor" you my as well save up 200 more and get a half decent 46" TV.
@Epic-Kx
Was there really a need for the asshole font? Why can't I ask why a guy who hates 3D reviews a 3D product?
Was there really a need for the asshole font? Why can't I ask why a guy who hates 3D reviews a 3D product?
Wow, Jim Sterling you are such a troll, etc etc etc
Seriously, though, I can't see much of a point. For $500, you could grab yourself a 40 inch 1080p TV, more adequate for gaming than this thing will ever be. What a waste.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN40D630-40-Inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B004SHKELG/ref=sr_1_5?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1321890011&sr=1-5
Seriously, though, I can't see much of a point. For $500, you could grab yourself a 40 inch 1080p TV, more adequate for gaming than this thing will ever be. What a waste.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN40D630-40-Inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B004SHKELG/ref=sr_1_5?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1321890011&sr=1-5
NO SCORE!? How on earth am I supposed to keep my 5 second per website limit rule now!?
In all seriousness though. I think id rather get a 3D PC monitor.
But then, Split screen not being split would be a joy.
In all seriousness though. I think id rather get a 3D PC monitor.
But then, Split screen not being split would be a joy.
Ok, I'm not up on the technology here. Why can only that tv do Simulview split screen and every other 3d tv can't? Any active shutter tv should be able to, shouldn't it?
I saw this at display at ebgames. Picture looks nice and the 3D is cool as well. But screen is waaay to small for my liking. I'd stick with a 50 inch 3D plasma which is probably the better deal cost wise.
Thank you. My computer monitor broke down recently, and I need a replacement, so I was thinking about this one.
100% agree it is too small to replace a TV--now it is on the small side but ok to replace a computer monitor. In the days of affordable 50" screens, this is a little puzzling. Anyway it is about the right size for a small computer monitor, so, maybe they should move it in that direction.
Something like this would make more sense if you could install Linux on your PS3, Sony.......
240Hz is impressive and maybe justifies the price but who would use it?
100% agree it is too small to replace a TV--now it is on the small side but ok to replace a computer monitor. In the days of affordable 50" screens, this is a little puzzling. Anyway it is about the right size for a small computer monitor, so, maybe they should move it in that direction.
Something like this would make more sense if you could install Linux on your PS3, Sony.......
240Hz is impressive and maybe justifies the price but who would use it?
@Pakota
Did you even read the review? Jim did a damn fine job of explaining the pros and cons of it. And what kind of answer did you expect for a stupid question?
Did you even read the review? Jim did a damn fine job of explaining the pros and cons of it. And what kind of answer did you expect for a stupid question?
Cue Pokota Jim hate. It sucks because I like his non-Jim related comments!
@Jim
Thanks! No remote blows, but if this goes down in price I might use it as a third monitor and replace my DVI.
@Jim
Thanks! No remote blows, but if this goes down in price I might use it as a third monitor and replace my DVI.
Jim, the display turns on automatically for me when I turn my ps3 on. There should be an option in the ps3 settings that allows for syncing when attached to a tv via Genie.
... so they didn't even spring for the minor addition of a TV tuner in the thing? Wow... kinda cheap.
I wish they were invested in the Move instead of 3D bullshit. At least that could have some interesting applications for gaming.
To small for me. Maybe in a couple years if it ends up being like $200 and I still can't afford something bigger.
solid review Guv'nor! about what you'd expect from Sony. too bad about the mirror finish--I hate that crap! Back to Skyrim.
I bought a 42" 3D TV with 2 pairs for glasses for the same $500 and it's beautiful. There is no significant need for this product.
@Magnalon
It wasn't hate, it was a legitimate question. Jim Sterling doesn't like 3D. I don't know what to say, it just seemed odd to me that someone who has made a big deal about despising 3D would be reviewing a 3D display. I had no idea people would get upset about it. I withdraw my comment, I forgot we're supposed to take everything bloggers say at face value.
It wasn't hate, it was a legitimate question. Jim Sterling doesn't like 3D. I don't know what to say, it just seemed odd to me that someone who has made a big deal about despising 3D would be reviewing a 3D display. I had no idea people would get upset about it. I withdraw my comment, I forgot we're supposed to take everything bloggers say at face value.
24 inches... that pretty bad for 500usd.
I got a non3d samsung monitor of 23 inches and it sold for 200 and something.
I got a non3d samsung monitor of 23 inches and it sold for 200 and something.
Despite the review I still really really want this tv... So hey if you guys don't need it I could so pick it up :-| seriously ...
"You can play local co-op with two players having the entire screen to themselves,"
to bad developers seem to forget about this feature with most current gen games. what happened to couch co-op? split screen/same screen games? you would think with tvs being so much bigger these days this kind of stuff would be more available.
but noooo, lets just not even think about it, cause you know, online BS and all. not everyone likes to play against faceless cheating pricks, they would rather play with friends in the same room.
to bad developers seem to forget about this feature with most current gen games. what happened to couch co-op? split screen/same screen games? you would think with tvs being so much bigger these days this kind of stuff would be more available.
but noooo, lets just not even think about it, cause you know, online BS and all. not everyone likes to play against faceless cheating pricks, they would rather play with friends in the same room.
@ Pokota
I'd say he probably reviewed it because he's the reviews editor and the only staff member willing to shell out the $500 to buy it.
I'd say he probably reviewed it because he's the reviews editor and the only staff member willing to shell out the $500 to buy it.
I was hyped for this when it was first announced because of the split-screen 'Simulview' technology but to hear that it's a Sony proprietary technology that is limited to very few games basically kills any intent I had on purchasing this.
I recently discovered THIS badboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-gk5_ofTHc
And now I am saving my cash for that, instead.
I recently discovered THIS badboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-gk5_ofTHc
And now I am saving my cash for that, instead.
@Tristix: ANY 120+ hz TV has the capability of displaying active 3D, but the TV firmwares don't support it; this is a similar situation. Manufacturers wont retrofit TVs with that feature; they'd rather you buy a new one. Lame.
"Jim Sterling doesn't like 3D."
I am now telling you for the second time this year that, as cynical as I still am of 3D, I've warmed to it as a decent little gimmick and consider it worth playing with if you have the tools to run it.
Now, if you persist for a third time, I'll drop the explanations and just call you an idiot.
I am now telling you for the second time this year that, as cynical as I still am of 3D, I've warmed to it as a decent little gimmick and consider it worth playing with if you have the tools to run it.
Now, if you persist for a third time, I'll drop the explanations and just call you an idiot.
Simulview sounds cool in concept, but the people this monitor would be best for (college students in small dorms) probably have better things to spend their money on than this monitor.
Jim, I'd like to know if you've tried the Personal 3D Viewer or if you'll be reviewing it. People seem to be losing their shit over it.
"It's up there with the PSP in terms of needlessly glossy screens that put aesthetics above functionality."
I don't find glossy screens all that aesthetic at all. They tend to get dirty, and show dirt, easily, and with dirt and dust usually comes one or two stupid scratches that never should happen from cleaning it. Overall, glossy usually also means glare, and that means squinting through it to get to your game if you can't really change the lighting set up in the room. So this screen would probably piss me off.
"Dynasty Warriors 7 practically has two characters instead of one running around the battlefield, but Killzone 3 looks really great."
Well, two characters is better the one, right? lol
And I kinda hate to say it, but of course Killzone 3 will look great -Sony made product, plays Sony made product well.
"Whether you need a display for console or computer, Sony's new offering just doesn't quite have enough to make its decent price and usability worth investing in."
Okay, so this was something I was going to ask any way: Even though I get what your saying, and there's better things out there, this display can be used to play other consoles?
I know the 2 HDMI ports suggest that but due to the Playstation branding I wasn't certain that it was intended for anything but Sony's consoles.
I don't find glossy screens all that aesthetic at all. They tend to get dirty, and show dirt, easily, and with dirt and dust usually comes one or two stupid scratches that never should happen from cleaning it. Overall, glossy usually also means glare, and that means squinting through it to get to your game if you can't really change the lighting set up in the room. So this screen would probably piss me off.
"Dynasty Warriors 7 practically has two characters instead of one running around the battlefield, but Killzone 3 looks really great."
Well, two characters is better the one, right? lol
And I kinda hate to say it, but of course Killzone 3 will look great -Sony made product, plays Sony made product well.
"Whether you need a display for console or computer, Sony's new offering just doesn't quite have enough to make its decent price and usability worth investing in."
Okay, so this was something I was going to ask any way: Even though I get what your saying, and there's better things out there, this display can be used to play other consoles?
I know the 2 HDMI ports suggest that but due to the Playstation branding I wasn't certain that it was intended for anything but Sony's consoles.
@timtheterrible
I could be wrong, but I very much doubt Sterling paid for this out of his own pocket. Also, it's not uncommon for editors on Destructoid to pass on reviewing something if it's not to their tastes. Sterling has done this himself. I said what I said believing that Sterling still hated 3D. Under that context, I don't think it was unreasonable to question the article.
@Jim Sterling
I don't remember such an event, but I suppose it's possible for it to be less memorable than the massive amount of anti-3D rhetoric you engaged in prior. Calling me an idiot is fine, as you seem to be into the name-calling thing. Stay classy. It means nothing.
Anyway, if you really don't hate 3D any longer, then I withdraw my own cynicism for this article. My comment was based on the many, many posts where you expressed anger that 3D is a thing.
I could be wrong, but I very much doubt Sterling paid for this out of his own pocket. Also, it's not uncommon for editors on Destructoid to pass on reviewing something if it's not to their tastes. Sterling has done this himself. I said what I said believing that Sterling still hated 3D. Under that context, I don't think it was unreasonable to question the article.
@Jim Sterling
I don't remember such an event, but I suppose it's possible for it to be less memorable than the massive amount of anti-3D rhetoric you engaged in prior. Calling me an idiot is fine, as you seem to be into the name-calling thing. Stay classy. It means nothing.
Anyway, if you really don't hate 3D any longer, then I withdraw my own cynicism for this article. My comment was based on the many, many posts where you expressed anger that 3D is a thing.
@pokota
Jim has gone on record saying he likes the 3D on the 3DS.
So I don't think he doesn't like the effect as much as the way it's been implemented, which is something that can improve given enough time.
Jim has gone on record saying he likes the 3D on the 3DS.
So I don't think he doesn't like the effect as much as the way it's been implemented, which is something that can improve given enough time.
pokota: I addressed it to you personally in another review. I imagine you probably don't check the follow-through so much, but at least we're all on the same page now!
And 3D as a thing isn't what has angered me so much as people embracing it as the future when it's actually the re-tooled past. It's a neat little toy, but treating it like the world-changer it isn't is what I find gauche.
Anyway, I am glad you can put your cynicism away ... for this thread, at least.
And 3D as a thing isn't what has angered me so much as people embracing it as the future when it's actually the re-tooled past. It's a neat little toy, but treating it like the world-changer it isn't is what I find gauche.
Anyway, I am glad you can put your cynicism away ... for this thread, at least.
If used right, 3D can be a lot more than just a gimmick. In Wipeout HD, Uncharted 3 and Gran Turismo 5, the 3D-ness is kind of cool but not really necessary.
The ICO/Shadow of the Colossus HD set is different story. They did it right. The 3D effect for each of those games has an unbelievably drastic change to the environments. The whole experience of playing them was different from the PS2 versions. I'm hoping developers take advantage of the technology like this in the future.
Jim, in all of your copious free time, if you need to send the set back to Sony now that your review is done, I highly recommend you try ICO/SotC HD before packing it up (hopefully the 24" can do it justice)! Or, if you already have a 3D set with better dimensions... yeah.
The ICO/Shadow of the Colossus HD set is different story. They did it right. The 3D effect for each of those games has an unbelievably drastic change to the environments. The whole experience of playing them was different from the PS2 versions. I'm hoping developers take advantage of the technology like this in the future.
Jim, in all of your copious free time, if you need to send the set back to Sony now that your review is done, I highly recommend you try ICO/SotC HD before packing it up (hopefully the 24" can do it justice)! Or, if you already have a 3D set with better dimensions... yeah.
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