I'm still not sold on an SSD for my gaming rig. When I purchased it, I was told an SSD would be the last "integral" component to beefing up my system, but I just don't see the value yet since the technology is still high priced compared to traditional HDDs.
It also doesn't help that my PC's got over 2TB of data on it. 120GB wouldn't go anywhere at all, save a select few apps and Windows.
...but again, I wouldn't be able to use a "select few", given how Steam installs games.
Second... eh... it's good if you use the Intel Smart Response tech. Just get a small, fast, cheapish one as a cache drive. My laptop has that and my loadtimes are minimal.
Excellent article btw.
My M4 was running on firmware 0002. The latest is 0009, but I figured I would leave it at 0002 for stability and reliability reasons. If I decide to update to 0009, I will be sure to update you all on any drastic performance increases, but I couldn't imagine it doubling the read speed...
@Jon B
I completely understand. Currently, I only have Windows on my Crucial, and the games I actively play on my other SSD.
@HeaT1
Early SSD did have this problem. However, new technology allows for a much longer lifespan. Both the Vertex 3 and Crucial M4 are rated to last ten years or more, and I imagine those ratings are based off pretty heavy usage.
I'm not sure what could be wrong. I just updated my firmware and I'm still getting similar numbers
I take my previous comment back. Are you sure you're looking at the right Crucial drive? Anandtech reports similar numbers as mine...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4253/the-crucial-m4-micron-c400-ssd-review/3
but it's pretty easy to have steam and ~1tb of games. There's an app called SteamMover, that will create a symbolic folder that steam thinks is on the default installed drive, but is actually a folder on another drive that has more free space. it will even handle moving the files if steam has already installed games onto the SSD.
free space is the only issue, steam won't recognise that you have 800gb on E:, it will only see the free space on C:, the SSD. so if you install RAGE, etc. make sure to leave enough empty room.
essentially, you install steam from scratch on your brand new SSD, then link the steamapps\common folder to E:\Games\ and move all the steam games into E:\Games\ (if your 2tb is D:, put the games in a folder there). then, login with steam, "install" the games and they should resync with the new content, install desktop shortcuts, etc.
easy.
SR did the numbers a while ago, the actual numbers look the same, but it's 10% to 20% faster with typical apps, http://www.storagereview.com/crucial_m4_ssd_review_firmware_0009
IIRC, you can install it via DVD USB flash drive, but you may need to change your boot settings to boot from a USB, and set the drive mode from AHCI* Should already be set for AHCI to IDE, flash the drive, then change it back to boot from the SSD as normal.
I'm using a pair of 128gb M4s in raid 0 and I get over four times the speed you are getting when I should get a little bit less than double.
When it was fresh I was getting over 980MB/s read in AS-SSD. This is a quickie I did after a few days of having the setup. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/asssdbenchroomba2110620.png/
I might get a 10k rpm drive when I get tired of the slower cold boot times. Speaking of which, why not compare a 10k rpm drive with SSDs? Seems like a good idea to me. :P
While the numbers in the review were on 0002, I retested with 0009 earlier today and still got the same numbers. I don't know what SR was doing to get those numbers, but those are the numbers I got over many trials over multiple firmwares.
@Jeslijar
Yes, I am absolutely sure I am using SATA III.
@Router
Buy the 10k RPM drive for me, and I'd be glad to do it.
Thats strange that its on Sata3 and its getting the sequential read throughput that is expected on a Sata2 port.
Examples:
http://www.storagereview.com/crucial_m4_ssd_review_256gb
http://forums.hexus.net/help-quick-relief-tech-headaches/207219-crucial-m4-128gb-firmware-009-sata2-speeds.html
Since the stuff that makes the drive chipset struggle (4k random reads etc) isn't impacted it would be the only thing that made any sense to me.
The only other thing it might be that I can think of is one of those Marvell sata3 controllers. They kind of suck and can't handle the load of the faster SSDs out there. Something about going through a pcie 1x lane that is slower than the on board intel controllers connection. Might explain the read speed for that solid 3 as well.
Some info on the marvell controllers:
http://techgage.com/article/battle_of_the_sata_30_controllers/
I apologize. So. Much. It turns out when I tried to install the firmware update, it didn't take effect. However, when I installed it a second time, I'm getting numbers closer to what you described. I will begin retesting it.
Again, I apologize about this.
and your an and tech link is old they had a new one w/ 0009
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4712/the-crucial-m4-ssd-update-faster-with-fw0009/3
Yes, I have the same model M4 you're using. Even on 0002 firmware it was getting 400 read on the sequential benchmark. With 0009 it was hitting upwards of 490. Are you sure you weren't plugged into one of the Marvell ports? The Marvell controllers absolutely suck for SSDs.
This was the 0002 results:
http://i.imgur.com/uMH6d.png
O.o don't need to apologize... I just saw you reviewing something that I had just recently gotten and thought it didn't look right... the technical support analyst in me kicked in and treated it like a helpdesk call.
Out of curiosity, do you have any issues with the drive (or any of the other SSDs) if they power down a la Windows Power Options "Turn off hard disk after: (20 minutes default)"?
My raid 0 ssd setup constantly hung (after the 20 minutes when the drive was powered off) until I disabled that. Never had the issue before with raid1 or raid0 HDDs in the past. Was the one marr on an otherwise flawless drive.
No, they didn't. I will be the first to admit that it was a stupid mistake of mine. I got this system from Nvidia pre-assembled, and I had assumed the latest firmware was installed. Yes, I know what assuming does. I would very much appreciate it if you didn't make foolish assumptions yourself.
@Jeslijar
I actually did. On my previous computer, I just had the Solid 3 and Vertex 3, where I encountered the problem you had. It took me about a week to figure out why I always came back to a BSOD.
"Anandtech reports similar numbers as mine...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4253/the-crucial-m4-micron-c400-ssd-review/3"
nujabes
"your an and tech link is old they had a new one w/ 0009
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4712/the-crucial-m4-ssd-update-faster-with-fw0009/3"
3/31/2011 3:16:00 AM or 8/31/2011 12:56:00 AM
I think time progresses. XD
Alex Bout
"@nujabes I would very much appreciate it if you didn't make foolish assumptions yourself."
huh?
"wow did OCZ pay you to not update the firmware of the crucial"
I was referring to this. No, I was not paid by OCZ for this review. I have some integrity, and will review anything favorably for money or extra reward.
"wow did OCZ pay you to not update the firmware of the crucial"
I was referring to this. No, I was not paid by OCZ for this review. I have some integrity, and will never review anything favorably for money or extra reward.

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