Bought it the first day it came out, almost done with Peace Walker no :D taking my time.
I read in Japan, the PS3 version came with a code of the PSN version of MGS1. Not sure if the US version did the same.
Well, that sucks. I really enjoyed Snake vs. Monkey and MGO was sometimes fun!
I'll still pick this up because MGS3 is one of the best games of all time, and it has been too long since I played it last.
No the US version doesn't get the download voucher; however, the Japanese version doesn't get Peace Walker while the US version does. I would argue that Peace Walker offers more value but either way it would have been nice to include the original MGS in the package.
It's sad that they couldn't find a way to get the rights to publish the Twin Snakes remake of MGS1 that was on the Game Cube. MGS1 has the most dated gameplay, but it also probably has the best (or at least the least convoluted) plot of the entire series. Also, for newcomers, I can't imagine playing these without having played MGS1.
Now I can play through all MGS games cept Portable Ops and Rising
Perhaps the Vita will be the best platform for PW, but to write it off for looking and playing like a PSP game seems harsh, it is one. Except it's been massively enhanced, and is a full priced standalone title bundled into the Western version for free. You make it sound like it's inclusion is pointless and a bit negative, I feel it's far from that, my disappointment with PW HD being that it doesn't accept my EU save, given I imported but opinions are great because they differ.
I haven't tried MGS2 or 3 yet, but I love those games with all my heart so I will adore them completely.
Regarding Twin Snakes, Nintendo do own some of the rights to it. Kills that idea instantly.
MGS is on PSN in all regions, Kojima said they'd need to do another remake to be satisfied with bring MGS to this generation. It's a shame for Xbox players, but there was MGS Integral for PC that you may be able to find at a reasonable price. A voucher code for MGS1 should have come with the PS3 copies at least. There is a possibility that bringing MGS1 to the 360 was impossible due to the age of the code, it simply may not be flexible enough to allow that port. I won't lie and say I'm as disappointed as anyone that MGS1 isn't included, but there are likely reasons why it didn't make it.
Have you been paying attention to the ridiculous review production the guy has put out over this past month. Give the chub a break! :)
I am in the middle of finishing Arkham City and want to badly finish that before I start this game.
Likely, one would have to activate a second controller then deactivate the first one to nullify Psycho Mantis' 'telepathy' rather than switch controller ports this time around, though..
A PSX version included would have been nice though.
...But 2012 in Europe!? If it wasn't for Skyrim I would throw a hissy fit.
Konami do not own Ape Escape, Sony do. Licensing fees for it's inclusion may have been too much to justify for them, and as such may have pushed the RRP of the product up and Sony would be much more stingy when Konami are coming knocking on the door asking to use Ape Escape characters again considering this is not exclusive. The nightmare thing is confusing to me, but once again, it could be licensing things or other things behind the scenes, I haven't a clue.
I don't think Konami would remove well loved content without good reason, and it's not in companies best interests to air "dirty" laundry in public. I would bet on things like PS1 emulation and Microsoft's console parity perhaps playing a part in MGS1's absence.
Rather than lambast Konami without thinking things through, think logically, and if there's no real possible logical reason for something not being in (like the nightmare) you have a point then.
Thanks for including wether this collection comes with their respective limited contents(my biggest worry). I think I'll wait for a face-off to decide between PS3/360. But I am pretty sure the PS3 version will be better or feel more "at home" at least.

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