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My beat up used copy of GOW2 that I got for cheap at Hollywood Video needs to be resurfaced (can't progress much farther after meeting Prometheus, as the next area won't load.) I haven't yet bothered to get them to do it. Did play through God of War, though, and it was impressive for PS2. And fun, overall. Challenge of the Gods #8 is a bitch and I gave up. Wasn't compelled enough to make the rewards worthwhile.
Now that I bought a PS3 bundle with God of War Collection and Little Big Planet, I feel outraged that you didn't give this game a perfect 10. grr.
I have this, and loved it, however, time let me forget some of the annoying parts of GoW 1, especially all of Pandora's Box. I'm stuck trying to push the guy up the ramp to his doom while never ending enemies spawn. I don't know how the hell I got past that years ago
I find it amusing that the true native "1200p" or even higher resolutions on every PC game ever are dismissed as unimportant, yet a boost to 720p, which honestly is a low resolution whether marketing makes you think it's fancy-pants HD or not, is praised.
Not in this review, just in general. This review is actually sobering in its lack of enthusiasm for the minor resolution bump.
Anyways I never played God of War, not my style of game really, though I might play it eventually. On a PS2 emulator in "1200p" and 16xMSAA :P
Not in this review, just in general. This review is actually sobering in its lack of enthusiasm for the minor resolution bump.
Anyways I never played God of War, not my style of game really, though I might play it eventually. On a PS2 emulator in "1200p" and 16xMSAA :P
I never played the GoW games before, for some strange reason. I did pick this up and crushed the first game over a weekend. I'm about halfway through the second one, and HO. LEE. SHIT. I love these games. I'm kind of hesitant to beat part 2, because then I'll have to wait for 3 months before I get to find out the ending to the story.
As a PS3 owner, I really don't see a reason to skip over this collection, unless you really, really hate good games.
As a PS3 owner, I really don't see a reason to skip over this collection, unless you really, really hate good games.
@Tensai7:
You have to sometimes set the cage that the guy is in in little grooves that come up out of the ground that keep the cage from sliding back down.
@Nick:
why'd it take so long to review this?
You have to sometimes set the cage that the guy is in in little grooves that come up out of the ground that keep the cage from sliding back down.
@Nick:
why'd it take so long to review this?
@dogestyl:
Got our copy about a week late due to a shipping error, then the holidays, then tons of other stuff I personally had to handle work wise around here. No real reason other than time constraints.
Got our copy about a week late due to a shipping error, then the holidays, then tons of other stuff I personally had to handle work wise around here. No real reason other than time constraints.
@ StingingVelvet -
I see what you're saying and can only argue that it is likely because we have these 289749873423" televisions these days and the bump from 480 to 720 is absolutely huge. I would of argued the opposite a couple of generations ago but crisp graphics are a must now days (sadly) to get a high score from reviewers.
As the shepherds (critics/reviewers) go so goes the sheep (consumers) which is why it's such a marketable point.
I see what you're saying and can only argue that it is likely because we have these 289749873423" televisions these days and the bump from 480 to 720 is absolutely huge. I would of argued the opposite a couple of generations ago but crisp graphics are a must now days (sadly) to get a high score from reviewers.
As the shepherds (critics/reviewers) go so goes the sheep (consumers) which is why it's such a marketable point.
Meh, I'm one of those with both PS2 games and a backwards compatible PS3. The only thing I will be missing out is the HD tweaks. I'll pass...
@ linuxguy
I see no elitism in my post. Sensitive much?
The point is reviews write-off massively higher resolutions in PC versions as unimportant yet praise "HD" as if it is anything other than a marketing term.
I don't like silly misconceptions on ANY platform.
I see no elitism in my post. Sensitive much?
The point is reviews write-off massively higher resolutions in PC versions as unimportant yet praise "HD" as if it is anything other than a marketing term.
I don't like silly misconceptions on ANY platform.
@StingingVelvet
There is no such thing as 1200p. Stop falling for marketing ploys for 16:10 monitors.
Great review, although I don't think a better resolution/trophies are worth my money when I already own the games.
There is no such thing as 1200p. Stop falling for marketing ploys for 16:10 monitors.
Great review, although I don't think a better resolution/trophies are worth my money when I already own the games.
@StingingVelvet:
That's very true considering that ANY PC resolution over 648x480 is technically HD, and any resolution including and greater than 1620 x 1280 is beyond HD.
However, I don't see where anyone has dismissed that anything HD-resolution or beyond on PCs is irrelevant or unimportant. Textures and framerate might be bad, but those aren't necessarily inclusive with respect to resolution. So, I'm not quite sure that I follow you.
And this coming from someone whose PC will blow away anything the PS3 or XB360 can do.
That's very true considering that ANY PC resolution over 648x480 is technically HD, and any resolution including and greater than 1620 x 1280 is beyond HD.
However, I don't see where anyone has dismissed that anything HD-resolution or beyond on PCs is irrelevant or unimportant. Textures and framerate might be bad, but those aren't necessarily inclusive with respect to resolution. So, I'm not quite sure that I follow you.
And this coming from someone whose PC will blow away anything the PS3 or XB360 can do.
Already got a copy shipping over to the UK from Canada, can't wait to play as I was too poor to be a gamer when they were originally released. Dunno why it still isn't announced for the EU/UK market
@John B
I better rephrase that. There is no true HD format of 1200p, its just a bigger 1080p signal.
I better rephrase that. There is no true HD format of 1200p, its just a bigger 1080p signal.
@Zantetsuken:
There is no industry definition of anything beyond 1080p at this point. That's true. However, to say that it's a bigger 1080p signal is a misnomer. It's not like 1080 is upconverted to 1200. The video card is sending out a native 1600 x 1200 signal.
As long as the textures and frame rate from the game can account for that, the visuals are by definition beyond anything that any console can do. But if the visuals are designed with a lower resolution in mind, the extra resolution is somewhat moot since "upconverting" does not technically add additional resolution.
There is no industry definition of anything beyond 1080p at this point. That's true. However, to say that it's a bigger 1080p signal is a misnomer. It's not like 1080 is upconverted to 1200. The video card is sending out a native 1600 x 1200 signal.
As long as the textures and frame rate from the game can account for that, the visuals are by definition beyond anything that any console can do. But if the visuals are designed with a lower resolution in mind, the extra resolution is somewhat moot since "upconverting" does not technically add additional resolution.
they should release this for xbox 360
even 1 console people should get this sweetsauce
or get em to buy a ps3 already and enjoy both worlds
even 1 console people should get this sweetsauce
or get em to buy a ps3 already and enjoy both worlds
@ TOEmastro: Not even possible for it be released on any other console, it's a Sony owned series.
@ SASUGA RIVAL: Agreed, but they should take it a step further and put Ico and Shadow of the Colossus together like with the two GoW games.Would be a perfect time to do it too especially since they have The Last Guardian coming sometime soon.
@ SASUGA RIVAL: Agreed, but they should take it a step further and put Ico and Shadow of the Colossus together like with the two GoW games.Would be a perfect time to do it too especially since they have The Last Guardian coming sometime soon.
Loved the originals, loving them all over again at 60fps, and other than the R2 button being totally wack on the Sixaxis/DS3 (making rapid presses super annoying), I'd the say the only other flaw with this set is the fact that some of cutscenes weren't remastered, while others were, sometimes even within the same sequence of scenes played back to back; one would be remastered, and the next not. It's a bit jarring to watch a fuzzy, low-poly cutscene, and have it cut back to gameplay that looked 5x better. :)
Then again, the gameplay looks 5x better, so who cares? Not me.
Then again, the gameplay looks 5x better, so who cares? Not me.
@ Zanetsuken
You have no idea what you are talking about. Stop.
@ John B
I was just trying to make an observation really, nothing too sinister or serious. I have often heard that the massively high resolutions on PC are of no importance and console games look "about the same," so I find it funny when a minor bump in resolution is considered a big deal for a console game. It's nothing too dire, I just find it amusing.
I find the term "HD" amusing to behin with. I was playing Doom in "HD" when the SNES was out for heaven't sake.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Stop.
@ John B
I was just trying to make an observation really, nothing too sinister or serious. I have often heard that the massively high resolutions on PC are of no importance and console games look "about the same," so I find it funny when a minor bump in resolution is considered a big deal for a console game. It's nothing too dire, I just find it amusing.
I find the term "HD" amusing to behin with. I was playing Doom in "HD" when the SNES was out for heaven't sake.
@TOEmastro
...no. Seriously. GoW is a first-party property, made by a Sony studio (Sony Santa Monica). A 360 port will never happen.
...no. Seriously. GoW is a first-party property, made by a Sony studio (Sony Santa Monica). A 360 port will never happen.
I can't justify buying two games I already own, even if they are somewhat prettier. Seems like a "sucker" move to me, and I'd hate to reward such behavior. We'd only get a shit ton more of the same with other PS2 titles.
Maybe (and it's a big maybe)... I'll think about not passing it up if I see them in the bargain bin, once everyone comes to their senses, and the price drops like a rock.
And YES, I love the games.
Maybe (and it's a big maybe)... I'll think about not passing it up if I see them in the bargain bin, once everyone comes to their senses, and the price drops like a rock.
And YES, I love the games.
I certainly felt that God of War I looked much worse than I expected...and I'm used to playing classics upscaled on my PC through emulators. But I held out hope for GoW2 looking that much better, like it did originally, and I'm not disappointed. GoW2 really is the highlight of the collection, as it currently is of the series, at this point (IMO).
@dip: Yeah, I forgot about those. I'm very much into trophies, level 9 ID with 7 platinums, and I'd definitely love to try the demo, I just don't know if those alone justify a $40 repurchase. Leaning towards both sides, pretty shitty dilemma.
I no longer have my original copies of the games, so this was a no-brainer. I don't dig having to rapid-tap the funky R2 controller in some parts, but everything else is golden.
@ Gameboi
"I can't justify buying two games I already own, even if they are somewhat prettier. Seems like a "sucker" move to me, and I'd hate to reward such behavior. We'd only get a shit ton more of the same with other PS2 titles."
There are new features and the game is now in HD at a budget price. I can only hope they do the same with other PS2 titles, mainly MGS and the Team Ico games.
"I can't justify buying two games I already own, even if they are somewhat prettier. Seems like a "sucker" move to me, and I'd hate to reward such behavior. We'd only get a shit ton more of the same with other PS2 titles."
There are new features and the game is now in HD at a budget price. I can only hope they do the same with other PS2 titles, mainly MGS and the Team Ico games.
Why the hell are the PC fanboys here sputting the same crap about how their computers have "better resolutions" or whatever. Go read Jim's post and file yourself as one.
Games are fantastic, and are the reason I still own a PS2. When I finally make the jump over to the PS3 this will most certainly be in the shopping cart along with the console. They seriously are some of the finest games ever constructed.
Games are fantastic, and are the reason I still own a PS2. When I finally make the jump over to the PS3 this will most certainly be in the shopping cart along with the console. They seriously are some of the finest games ever constructed.
I played both of these games for the first time with this collection, and I have to say: this 9.5 is well deserved. For 40 bucks, you can't do much better than this if you're a PS3 owner.
Both great, GREAT games. I was surprised, playing through the first one again, how much platforming there is. I'm glad that was traded up for epic boss battles every five minutes in GoWII, but still...an amazing game.
Hmm, I'm still excited to get this pack when I get a ps3 next year, but the screenshots (if they're from the HD version) don't look better to me.
@ Zantetsuken
A Wiki read-through on resolutions might do the job, but suffice it to say everything is a two-part resolution, vertical pixel count by horizontal. Old TV res was 640x480 and in progressive scan called "480p." Current "HD" consoles display in 1280x720, though often not natively and are just scaled to that res. 1280x720 is not really a high res and it being called "high definition" is just a silly marketing term, PC games reach resolutions far, far beyond that more than a decade ago... forever ago.
Anyway, what you know as "1080p" is 1920x1080, just another resolution and not a fixed standard. PCs can display tons of different resolutions, they are not limited to the three console resolutions. I play my games in 1920x1200, which you might understand as "1200p"... there is no scaling, it is a native res. Some PC monitors go all the way up to something like 2500x1600. and then there is the somewhat recent multi-monitor movement which means playing games in something like 5040x1200. These resolutions are like 50 times the pixels of "720p".
So again, my only point was that PC games have been played at these very high resolutions forever now and 720p is quite low compared, even 1080 being average. So when we PC gamers hear about the AWESOME HD GRAFFIX of 720p, and indeed see a game "remastered in HD!!!" at 720p, it kind of makes us chuckle. The "AND 2xMSAA!!!" thing is also funny, but that's a whole other post I guess.
@ Shadowii
Your comment reminds me of the jocks in high school who make fun of science nerds for knowing more than them. I never said these games suck and I never said playing on a console is bad, all I said was 720p with 2xMSAA isn't something to brag about or get excited about and yet everyone does, while at the same time they tell me PC games look no better than console versions and that higher res does not matter. WHICH IS IT?
Same thing happens with something like Call of Duty Classic, they market it as NOW IN HD when I was playing the damn thing at a much higher resolution when it came out 6 years ago.
I am fighting ignorance over what resolution and HD mean and the silly marketing term "HD" is, not consoles. Stop calling me a fanboy for no reason and read the posts.
A Wiki read-through on resolutions might do the job, but suffice it to say everything is a two-part resolution, vertical pixel count by horizontal. Old TV res was 640x480 and in progressive scan called "480p." Current "HD" consoles display in 1280x720, though often not natively and are just scaled to that res. 1280x720 is not really a high res and it being called "high definition" is just a silly marketing term, PC games reach resolutions far, far beyond that more than a decade ago... forever ago.
Anyway, what you know as "1080p" is 1920x1080, just another resolution and not a fixed standard. PCs can display tons of different resolutions, they are not limited to the three console resolutions. I play my games in 1920x1200, which you might understand as "1200p"... there is no scaling, it is a native res. Some PC monitors go all the way up to something like 2500x1600. and then there is the somewhat recent multi-monitor movement which means playing games in something like 5040x1200. These resolutions are like 50 times the pixels of "720p".
So again, my only point was that PC games have been played at these very high resolutions forever now and 720p is quite low compared, even 1080 being average. So when we PC gamers hear about the AWESOME HD GRAFFIX of 720p, and indeed see a game "remastered in HD!!!" at 720p, it kind of makes us chuckle. The "AND 2xMSAA!!!" thing is also funny, but that's a whole other post I guess.
@ Shadowii
Your comment reminds me of the jocks in high school who make fun of science nerds for knowing more than them. I never said these games suck and I never said playing on a console is bad, all I said was 720p with 2xMSAA isn't something to brag about or get excited about and yet everyone does, while at the same time they tell me PC games look no better than console versions and that higher res does not matter. WHICH IS IT?
Same thing happens with something like Call of Duty Classic, they market it as NOW IN HD when I was playing the damn thing at a much higher resolution when it came out 6 years ago.
I am fighting ignorance over what resolution and HD mean and the silly marketing term "HD" is, not consoles. Stop calling me a fanboy for no reason and read the posts.
I never really played these much back in the day but leaped at the chance to play both now that 3 is on the horizon. I just finished 2 this afternoon and can say that these are just plain fantastic games, even if you're only coming at these for the first time on PS3! The only downside is the ingame videos in mostly part one that appear fuzzy due to not being replaced with high-definition video. Not a deal breaker though by far.
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