Did you guys both play on PC or what? Because if Brad is knocking the showdown mechanic and he played on console, it can be frustrating at first but you get a knack for it - and its really just about keeping the left stick tilted downward and to the left while continually strafing left and right with the right stick. If he played on PC, then his argument in that respect is a little invalid because neither reviewer actually played with a controller, which is the way it seems Techland was intending for it. The game was first announced for consoles, was it not?
The auto-aim thing is clunky, but most of the time I was either using Thomas' hunting rifle from afar to get precision shots, or else just running in with Ray and shooting up the place with my six shooters while once in awhile tossing a stick of dynamite or two - so I only really used the cover system when I actually wanted to use it - that is, after I understood how it worked.
The story is lame, but the interplay between the brothers is actually believable - if either of you guys had brothers close in age who have been anything like Ray and Thomas growing up, you'd know that this actually works to be a compelling enough narrative - although the Mexican chick just seems like a stupid whore - they don't really work on making her character interesting or giving compelling enough reasons for why she's such a ho bag and passes herself between so many men.
Bound in Blood is fun for a campy shooter in the style of spaghetti westerns, and I think both of these reviews are unduly harsh - especially considering how positive many other review sites have been about the game. Plus, the graphics are so markedly improved above the last game that they make the western setting a hell of a lot of fun, and the gunplay really isn't half as bad as you guys make it seem. If anything, I found myself having the concentration mode available too often and no one to use it on. A slight annoyance, but if you time the gunplay to your advantage you can have some pretty cool moments.
I'll focus on Brad's since I refuse to read Anthony's portion, I think its a little harsh, the most I had trouble with was the draws, beyond that I thought it was fairly solid and very enjoyable shooter, I will say this though, Ray is broken with his bulletproof vest.
Part of me is upset cause i paid 60 bucks for it (its definately worth 40) But im happy i have it, and i dig pretending to play in a world like the old westerns i grew up watching as a kid.
The problem for me was that everything that was changed about COJ2 just left it feeling like a regular shooter, even if it was technically a better game, that in turn actually made it a worse expenditure of time. I still had fun, but it wasn't anything I could describe to anyone with any real emphatic vernacular. I think if anyone is interested in COJ, pick up the first one instead since it'll be much cheaper and overall a more thought provoking experience mechanically than its younger blood brother.
Thank you both for the warning.
I just read a review from a german magazine that's usually at least somewhat accurate and they gave the game an 8.7. So I was thinking "Hey! I might rent it this weekend and have some fun!" But then...this review came along and...now I'm going to rent it for sure. Could they possibly fuck it up this bad? I'm curious.
Of course, I trust you guys more than anybody else on the internet, especially Anthony's reviews are always spot on for me, so it's probably going to be crap.
I honestly didn't know what to expect from this game: it had a cool trailer, but ultimately, I feel like the entire western game genre is just a let down.
I give it a 6. It is not a flawed game that is broken, is just not very good. Rent it for a weekend.
You say you can't compare scores, but honestly, a 2 score on any game is the mark of a broken and almost completely unplayable gaming experience.
This game is clearly playable, if a little boring and derivative.
Seemingly his only complaint is "it could have been so much MORE" which clearly does not fall in the 2 range.
5.0
For anyone listening to this... Give the game a shot. Torrent it or something.
Honestly, it's not all that bad. First of all, aren't any of you tired of playing super un-linear open world open choice games for 3 years already? I've been looking for every new linear game I could find out there, and this one is nowhere near disappointing. There are a few cranks with it, but for the most part its fun and fairly unique. In how many FPSes can you climb up things, or run on rooftops? The slow motion shooting sequences are fun, and nobody needs interactive cutscenes. The story isn't bad at all, and about flat characters - the girl there has pretty nice boobs if you ask me. (sarcasm, the characters aren't that bad either). The animations can be a little stiff sometimes, although there are a few moments in the game when you think "woah, that guy looked almost real". The graphics are great in my opinion, and then there's a little bit of free roam element which mixes nicely with the rest. It may not be realistic, but it's fun and enjoyable.
Dtoid, you should really change your mind about this game. It really isn't all that bad.
Try it.
I was stoked for this game when they ran the first two teaser trailers, sounded like it had crazy high potential. I had never played the original, but I have a friend who told me he really liked it.
And then the gameplay trailers came out before and around E3, and ho-ly sh!t, all my hopes for an interesting western game went down the tubes where CoJ:BiB was concerned. Watching the video review on GT didn't help raise my hopes either.
"shoot dozens, maybe hundreds of Union soldiers with sub-Call of Duty-looking gameplay". Liniar as hell gameplay, shooting galleries everywhere, glaring ommission of co-op play. FAIL, in other words.
I think a Destructoid score of 3 - 3.5 is dead on.
Here is hoping Red Dead Redemption will do justice to the potential of the setting.
@stahlbrand
you haven't played the game, but a destructoid score of 3-3.5 is dead on? what???
If you cannot make some kind of tentitive judgment by reading several reviews, and watching all the availible video footage, you must be retarded.
If a judgement of some kind can't be made until you purchase the game, then what is the point of reading or discussing a review in your opinion?
If you can see ice forming on your driveway, and the weather network says its below freezing, you do walk outside to see if you need to wear a coat, because, if you haven't gone outside yourself, how can you trust what you've seen and what has been reported?
Story: bad
Actualization of western setting: bad
Gameplay mechanics: bad
Level design: bad
Graphics: fair
Animation: bad to fair
Length: short
A Dtoid 3 is "3s went wrong somewhere along the line. The original idea might have promise, but in practice the game has failed. Threatens to be interesting sometimes, but rarely."
And from all I've seen/read, that describes this game well. Again, I hope RDR delivers.
Red Dead Redemption is obviously going to deliver and probably beat CoJ:BiB's gameplay over the head with a rusty spur, dur. That's kind of a no-brainer given Rockstar's pedigree. But you know what? By the time that game is still six months away, Call of Juarez:Bound In Blood will probably be at your local Gamestop for 14.99. So seriously, chill the f***k out.
I paid full price the game and don't regret it - its well-polished and fun. Plus, I'm not just gonna sit on my hands and wait for Rockstar to finally 'get around' to releasing another Western on a rather barren genre front when I can actually - get this - have my cake and eat it too. I also have Silent Hill:Homecoming, Midnight Club LA, and Prince of Persia to get through thanks to game deals selling them on the cheap, but right now I'm loving the Western vibe. And in the general environmental, gameplay and even the hokey story sense - the game delivers in spades.
Guess everybody wants soemthing different, at least enough to see reviews go from 2-8/10.
I still want an open world game like Gun. Hopefully Red Dead Revolver 2 will suffice.
you didn't make a tentative judgment, you stated the review as being "spot on" w/out having played it. sorry that's just plain dumb to say. you must really have a clue to not play a game and conclude that the review score is dead on. using your logic, check the scores on metacritic: 7's and 8's. like i said, i would not give this game an eight, but 2 is plain silly. key point: i can say this because i have played the game. make sense? at least rent the game before blindly calling a review "spot on" or hold your tongue, you'll come off less "retarded" that way.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/callofjuarezboundinblood
Sites can only submit one score for the aggregate review sites. I guess the 5 won out. Though I'd find it hard to argue with omitting Ant's score.
Guys. Just because he hates the game doesn't make it a bad review. Jesus. What a bunch of pussies.
I'm convinced that its a 'rent first'. Thanks for the reviews.

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