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I'm lovin it, of course Battlefield just works for me as a FPS. i own Killzone 2,Halo,Call of Duty and Medal of Honor, but these are, imho lacking something. Of course my brother who lives for CoD and Halo hates BF, so there must be something about this game.
I'll have to find BBC2 after Christmas to play this. Looks like they made a better Vietnam maps then Blops. (I like the Vietnam battles in it just didn't care for all the Russian fights, there my new Nazi's in gaming)
I haven't gotten into a Battlefield game since 1942 - there's something about them that I just feel...is generic.
Modern Warfare I appreciated because it brought an "arcade-y" feel to the FPS genre, and brought about leveling/perks/experience, etc.
Modern Warfare I appreciated because it brought an "arcade-y" feel to the FPS genre, and brought about leveling/perks/experience, etc.
Rank resets have happened to me multiple times in Vietnam and previously in the core game. They are always temporary and many times only an illusion presented by the main menu. Entering a match generally gives you all your stuff back.
@Magnalon
I'm surprised you havent gotten into BC2 then. It has an arcadey feel to it but has better aspects of teamwork than COD does, and it has more realistic bullets than Call of Duty's magic infinite path laser bullets.
I'm surprised you havent gotten into BC2 then. It has an arcadey feel to it but has better aspects of teamwork than COD does, and it has more realistic bullets than Call of Duty's magic infinite path laser bullets.
BC2 is sooooo much more fun than MW2. Why call a Chopper to help out when you can do it yourself! Vehicles add so much more to the game.
I heard gingers don't have souls? I call BS on that.
I think people who doesn't love BC2'nam don't have souls. TRUTHED!
I think people who doesn't love BC2'nam don't have souls. TRUTHED!
Not as much fun as vanilla BC2 in my opinion. I've played the original for around 180hours on xbox 360 (love it) but Vietnam has a dearth of vehicles and the maps, although well designed, make it difficult to spot players because they share color palettes. In some reviews it is being compared to the fast and furious gameplay of CoD and MoH (shit games in my opinion, no teamwork)- I would say that is only applicable half the time. Half the time is close quarters flamethrower madness, the other time is choke point camping (the flaming hill rush map is HORRENDOUS for both sides, as the amount of snipe camping due to the long uncovered rush area between points is ridiculous. Basically have to hope the left flank is exposed and sneak up). Also, PATROL BOATS. JESUS CHRIST. Lamest vehicle of all time, and I think most people that have played the game for more than 10 hours will agree with me. In conclusion- buy it to support DICE in fighting the CoD franchise, but don't buy it expecting it to replace vanilla Bad Company 2, as believe me, it probably will not. I ended up going directly back to vanilla BC2 because there is much less of the vehicular madness and large-scale battle that I love about BC2 and that helps differentiate it from the otherwise cookie-cutter FPS crowd.
The soundtrack bit sounds like they simply copied it from the previous BF Vietnam and then added a few more. That's fine, I really liked the soundtrack in BF Vietnam (it was the only thing I enjoyed).
10/10 for me as soon as I heard CCR playing in the menu. I love this expansion; it is to BFBC2 what Undead Nightmare is to RDR.
On a side note, anyone having issues with their stats reseting: just reboot the game, and they should load up fine.
On a side note, anyone having issues with their stats reseting: just reboot the game, and they should load up fine.
No mention of the ridiculous choke points in all of the maps? Don't get me wrong, the game is great, but those few choke points in each level are absolutely fucking ridiculous. Get a decent team and you can just sit there and double tap anybody that comes in to view.
Personally I'd give it an 8. A really great game, with a very different experience to BC2 Vanilla, but not without it's flaws.
Personally I'd give it an 8. A really great game, with a very different experience to BC2 Vanilla, but not without it's flaws.
@Skribble My friends and I spent an entire matching defending the first base of Vantage Point by doing nothing but chucking grenades as the assault class with the extra grenades perk... The choke points really are quite ridiculous.
I haven't played any conquest yet (for some reason my friend-in-arms wants to keep doing the rush gametype >.>) but the rush maps are downright horrible.
- The amount of chokepoints is just ridiculous. There's exactly one stage in the whole frickin game that I would consider to be fun and balanced instead of a massive advantage for either the defenders or attackers.
E.G. the hill storming in Hill 137, That first stage between those rocks where you can't even see where you are going till they can see you, The defenders standing in a massive OPEN ricefield while the opposing team has a frickin chopper + tank and you have absolutely zilch.
- It seems to me that the destructability level is far lower in this one. The amount of walls that I have seen that I can't blow up is enormous.
- You can't see shit if you are running due to the massive overload of browns and greens + random fog everywhere which means that your only real option for long range battles is to sit still constantly. Which you can't, because you have to Rush the objective which gets us back to the chokepoint problem again.
- Weapon accuracy is downright ridiculous again. Firing AR's on full auto from one side to the other and still making kills does not make sense. Especially when these same AR's outclass submachine guns in CQC as well.
- Vehicles are either non-existent on most maps or can't go anywhere due to indestructable bamboo ( I kid you not), extremely low walls or tanks traps.
Again, when you have to storm the hill in Hill 137, you get a tank but aren't even allowed to go onto the hill, which means it's basically useless as your tank rounds are shot upwards.
I love playing engineer just to troll everyone with my rpg from all ranges, but you basically never need the guy. Which is probably why you never see any engineers.
Maybe it's infinitely better on conquest (I hated rush maps in normal BFBC2 as well, but even those were a lot better) but the amount of stupid design decisions on these maps just baffle me. I thought Battlefield was supposed to be the more tactical shooter, not the same run-n-gun chokepoint hell as CoD is.
- The amount of chokepoints is just ridiculous. There's exactly one stage in the whole frickin game that I would consider to be fun and balanced instead of a massive advantage for either the defenders or attackers.
E.G. the hill storming in Hill 137, That first stage between those rocks where you can't even see where you are going till they can see you, The defenders standing in a massive OPEN ricefield while the opposing team has a frickin chopper + tank and you have absolutely zilch.
- It seems to me that the destructability level is far lower in this one. The amount of walls that I have seen that I can't blow up is enormous.
- You can't see shit if you are running due to the massive overload of browns and greens + random fog everywhere which means that your only real option for long range battles is to sit still constantly. Which you can't, because you have to Rush the objective which gets us back to the chokepoint problem again.
- Weapon accuracy is downright ridiculous again. Firing AR's on full auto from one side to the other and still making kills does not make sense. Especially when these same AR's outclass submachine guns in CQC as well.
- Vehicles are either non-existent on most maps or can't go anywhere due to indestructable bamboo ( I kid you not), extremely low walls or tanks traps.
Again, when you have to storm the hill in Hill 137, you get a tank but aren't even allowed to go onto the hill, which means it's basically useless as your tank rounds are shot upwards.
I love playing engineer just to troll everyone with my rpg from all ranges, but you basically never need the guy. Which is probably why you never see any engineers.
Maybe it's infinitely better on conquest (I hated rush maps in normal BFBC2 as well, but even those were a lot better) but the amount of stupid design decisions on these maps just baffle me. I thought Battlefield was supposed to be the more tactical shooter, not the same run-n-gun chokepoint hell as CoD is.
From what ive played this is propably one of the best Dlc expansions ever, only rivaled by Borderlands General Knoxx and some of the Fallout 3 stuff.
A must buy for everyone who likes BC2 even a bit.
A must buy for everyone who likes BC2 even a bit.
The only reason I've stayed away from this game is that apparently it's a snipers paradise, which for me is no fun at all.
Just starting playing this, I gotta say for someone who has been out of the game for several months jumping back in has been kinda rough. But so far I'm loving the maps and feel of game. I can't wait until my skill level is back to normal. Hill 137 really is amazing.
@Magnalon
BF2 had experience points and weapon unlocks way before CoD.
Anyway, I have bought the expansion but have not gotten a chance to play it yet. Cannot wait though
BF2 had experience points and weapon unlocks way before CoD.
Anyway, I have bought the expansion but have not gotten a chance to play it yet. Cannot wait though
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@garethxxgod: I play a good bit of it and there is a mighty fair number of snipers around (on xbox anyway). The thing is, they usually can't hit anything if it moves, and it takes a headshot for a one hit kill. Basically, I get shot at by lots of snipers, but killed by very few. And most weapons in vanilla with a 4x scope can engage with a little burst fire and counter the bush campers easily. Or at least make em duck long enough to get in cover. Lots of people play sniper because the maps are big and you can get much longer distance shots than in most other current shooters. Its sorta nice because there are lots of people looking through their scopes oblivious to whats going on close by. Easy pickings. The game is really good if you like this sort of thing, I'd hate for the snipers to ruin it for you, cause they aren't very hard to deal with and aren't worse than in any other shooter I've played.
@garethxxgod: I play a good bit of it and there is a mighty fair number of snipers around (on xbox anyway). The thing is, they usually can't hit anything if it moves, and it takes a headshot for a one hit kill. Basically, I get shot at by lots of snipers, but killed by very few. And most weapons in vanilla with a 4x scope can engage with a little burst fire and counter the bush campers easily. Or at least make em duck long enough to get in cover. Lots of people play sniper because the maps are big and you can get much longer distance shots than in most other current shooters. Its sorta nice because there are lots of people looking through their scopes oblivious to whats going on close by. Easy pickings. The game is really good if you like this sort of thing, I'd hate for the snipers to ruin it for you, cause they aren't very hard to deal with and aren't worse than in any other shooter I've played.
lol at all the bf vs cod fanboys. They are both decent games that both have some annoying aspects to them. Pick one and shut the fuck up please.
Vietnam rocks,for those complaining about choke points, lightweight and don't hesitate to spawn ASAP, bolt for A and do a quick plant and you've got it.
@Notorious
Yea, but I feel like the COD series perfected it.
I'll give it a chance sometime soon again. I didn't really like the session I played at my friend's house.
Yea, but I feel like the COD series perfected it.
I'll give it a chance sometime soon again. I didn't really like the session I played at my friend's house.
I didn't like BC2 multiplayer that much....so I didn't expect much from BC2 vietnam. But it turns out this expansion is quite good (they should have just made it a stand alone and ditched BC2 all together).
More close combat and less sniping madness make this game more interesting. Also the maps are well designed and although there is a few areas that have a cluster-fack, there is always a way around. Also the difficulty isn't that hard, so for new players it would be a much more enjoyable experience.
More close combat and less sniping madness make this game more interesting. Also the maps are well designed and although there is a few areas that have a cluster-fack, there is always a way around. Also the difficulty isn't that hard, so for new players it would be a much more enjoyable experience.
if most hrs. played = goty, then b:bc2 is my 2010 GOTY. 500hrs.
In my estimation this was the best pure MP shooter ever made. I look forward to the dlc.
In my estimation this was the best pure MP shooter ever made. I look forward to the dlc.
Bad Company 2 is a terrific game. One of the biggest let downs we experienced with Veitnam were the weapons. If you aquired all the weapons in the original, then purchase vietnam you aquire all the weapons available. You will find the weapons a big let down..It was like going backwards.
As for the check points, the comments are totally correct. Once the defence is established, you can consider the game over.
The music is swell, but I didn't purchase the upgrade for the songs... Honestly? The original version of battlefield Vietnam was much better than this one sided version.
As for the check points, the comments are totally correct. Once the defence is established, you can consider the game over.
The music is swell, but I didn't purchase the upgrade for the songs... Honestly? The original version of battlefield Vietnam was much better than this one sided version.
@Magnalon:
Play with a squad of guys that know what they are doing and you will never want to play another shooter ever again.
Play with a squad of guys that know what they are doing and you will never want to play another shooter ever again.
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