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Yeah I get a real meh feeling out of it too, but Wake Island made it all worth while. Battlefield 3 is still fun though.
Gulf of Oman, CQA is playable on all the maps (as are all the original gametypes), also most maps that "feel smaller" actually are. I'm not entirely positive if the different flag counts (for the same gametype on the same map) scale depending on lobby size because I've seen both in full games, but obviously the larger flag counts open up the full maps.
"You get one new tank, jet, and buggy. I didn’t even notice they were new additions until somebody told me, which should tell you everything."
Hover jet. HOVER JET. JET that HOVERS. A jet that you can jump in, scream towards the middle base at full throttle, then gently settle down between the buildings to secure your base.
Hover jet. HOVER JET. JET that HOVERS. A jet that you can jump in, scream towards the middle base at full throttle, then gently settle down between the buildings to secure your base.
@Wakatashi
The majority of the BF3 playerbase probably got the DLC for free. EA is making dat moneys though.
The majority of the BF3 playerbase probably got the DLC for free. EA is making dat moneys though.
Back to Karkand is decent. No way in hell I would pay $15 if I didn't get the limited edition version. I try desperately to like BF3, is it just me or does it seem like no one talks. I'm a level 10, I have yet to hear anyone on any squad I've been on talk. The one time someone did have a mic, it sound like his Kinect and I could hear his TV. Its hard to like BF3 when no one talks and stratagizes. I only have like 3 ppl who consistently play this game.
It's sad that this would be an excuse to jump back to BF3 when the game has only been out for a little over a month. Gamers need to stop being so picky.
all the back to karkant maps are a lot better than the default ones besides most of us got it as a preoreder bonus
I really enjoy the new maps and weapons. However compared to Bad Company 2: Vietnam, Back to Karkand is a bit of a dissapointment. But it was still enough to get me back to playing BF3 all the time instead of just when ever Skyrim fucked up on me.
I'm not buying anything with Battlefield on it unless El Almein is in it. This have been my opinion since countless of disappointments in map design ever since BF1942.
I made an account just to comment on your review. Please don't review anymore triple AAA games because you really SUCK. Finish school and leave games alone.
Playing on 360...B2K is a huge disappointment. Maps are all too big for 12v12 and often have too many vehicles on them for the amount of players (like Caspian Border).
The handful of new weapons are nice, but it's already becoming a rarity to see anything being used but the FAMAS.
The handful of new weapons are nice, but it's already becoming a rarity to see anything being used but the FAMAS.
I read the review, then I read the comments. Then I read the review again, then I read the comments again...
...and I still don't understand the animosity for this review. I can tell some of the responses are sarcastic because were all postmodern and stuff but what the hell?
...and I still don't understand the animosity for this review. I can tell some of the responses are sarcastic because were all postmodern and stuff but what the hell?
By the way, anyone looking for a communicative squad: you get what you give! If you have a Mic and are not using it because you don't hear anyone else talking, I bet at least half of your team is thinking the same thing. Get the Mic on, communicate with teammates even if they can't talk back, get involved in battlelog, join a platoon...you need to search out and participate in the cooperation you wish to see. "Be the change you wish to see in" your games.
@Wakatashi your a jackass. Let me guess, you do nothin but cry and bitch and moan and think everyone should be sad and pathetic like you? If u feel like EA is screwin ppl over, don't buy their shit.
Oh look, another review from someone who obviously doesn't like Battlefield, just because.
The B2K maps are CLEARLY the best in the game. They're the only ones that have really given me the "battlefield" feel. It's not just Conquest Assault, it's the proper mix of CQC and open-map combat.
Also, I preordered this game for $40 on Amazon, and got these maps for free. I would not pay $15 for them, even though I have said they're the best maps. For me, they were included in the game, and so I can't complain since that's the way it should be. Your review is still very childish, and from what I read, I find it difficult to believe you played for more than an hour.
A common gripe I have with the game is the desaturation and color filters on every map. However, you said B2K strips the maps of their color, which is hilarious, since in BF2 they were predominantly BROWN, and only brown. These are an improvement, and while Wake Island certainly doesn't "pop" with its tropical theme, you're kind of full of shit.
Basically, I disagree with most all of your points, and think Dtoid is becoming more journalistically bankrupt every day. I weep for those who still use this site to base their opinions and purchasing decisions off of.
The B2K maps are CLEARLY the best in the game. They're the only ones that have really given me the "battlefield" feel. It's not just Conquest Assault, it's the proper mix of CQC and open-map combat.
Also, I preordered this game for $40 on Amazon, and got these maps for free. I would not pay $15 for them, even though I have said they're the best maps. For me, they were included in the game, and so I can't complain since that's the way it should be. Your review is still very childish, and from what I read, I find it difficult to believe you played for more than an hour.
A common gripe I have with the game is the desaturation and color filters on every map. However, you said B2K strips the maps of their color, which is hilarious, since in BF2 they were predominantly BROWN, and only brown. These are an improvement, and while Wake Island certainly doesn't "pop" with its tropical theme, you're kind of full of shit.
Basically, I disagree with most all of your points, and think Dtoid is becoming more journalistically bankrupt every day. I weep for those who still use this site to base their opinions and purchasing decisions off of.
@heroman The man stated his opinion and gave it the score he saw fit. What difference does it even make? Judging from your comment, you probably own this and love it. Why say he's full of shit? What Destructoid should consider doing is what Game Informer does, they offer a second opinion on scores. Most times they seem the same, but other times a reviewer will give a much different score. Not that this will stop the whining but its a start.
At least we finally have some good maps this time around. 75% of BF3's maps were filled with really bad choke-points.
Agreed these maps are among the best in the bf3 arsenal, that alone I think is a selling point. Then again these are remade maps, not "bf3" maps so it kind of makes sense that they are more representative of "battlefield" in nature since bf3 is a departure from that.
That being said, I hate that bf always includes the dlc as massive updates then makes you pay to unlock it, I understand that the people who don't buy the packs need a way to display new weapons, etc. and when you actually buy it, as Allistair mentions, it makes that use of space actually worth having.
Having not bought the Vietnam update for BF2, I was pretty furious when I tried to jump on for a few matches and was met with a massive update that I would never and never intended on using.
That being said, I hate that bf always includes the dlc as massive updates then makes you pay to unlock it, I understand that the people who don't buy the packs need a way to display new weapons, etc. and when you actually buy it, as Allistair mentions, it makes that use of space actually worth having.
Having not bought the Vietnam update for BF2, I was pretty furious when I tried to jump on for a few matches and was met with a massive update that I would never and never intended on using.
I LOVE this map pack. First map back I've ever played where I would wouldn't play some new maps for a few rounds then go back to the original ones. I played the B2K maps for a whole night almost. Best maps in the whole game IMO.
Also pulling off 450 yard headshots on Gulf Of Oman is the best feeling ever
Also pulling off 450 yard headshots on Gulf Of Oman is the best feeling ever
I was getting pretty tired of Siene crossing, that's a horrendous map; so these maps are a refreshing change, plus the F-35's are awesome.
I want it, but I feel like $15 is a bit steep. I might get it, but I have yet to ever even play with any of the FNF guys.
Depressedoptimist
What system are you on? I know the ps3 peeps to be quite active and I only have a few on my friends list. Would like to add more speaking of which, if you got ps3 and bf3 add me. Psn is same as DTOID
What system are you on? I know the ps3 peeps to be quite active and I only have a few on my friends list. Would like to add more speaking of which, if you got ps3 and bf3 add me. Psn is same as DTOID
^Wisdom.
Seriously, It's a map pack for a video game. If don't like it, make your peace and move along. If you do, then stop arguing your personal opinion and go play the damn game.
You didn't preorder/don't feel like paying/don't even like Battlefield? Cool story. Not worth arguing about with people who did/do.
Seriously, It's a map pack for a video game. If don't like it, make your peace and move along. If you do, then stop arguing your personal opinion and go play the damn game.
You didn't preorder/don't feel like paying/don't even like Battlefield? Cool story. Not worth arguing about with people who did/do.
I love how no one mentions that the update broke the game I can see enemy mines making mine useless I can see on my screen where the enemy mobile spawns an mortars on my screen hell I can even see when the helicopters are taking off but no people just want to whine about dlc Ooooooo dick heads
Wake Island could have been done better. It's far too spare, level and more inclined for Snipers and Engineers. The rest is stellar stuff, though. I'd say they're all well suited for Conquest, rather than Rush (as with the case of many BF3 maps).
As for the new Jet, it does play differently. I'm not an ace pilot, but as soon I jumped in one, I felt the turning circle was tighter, the speed was slower. You're right, though, that difference just isn't there with the new Tank and Buggy (sans its firing line).
The new weapons aren't great. They're pretty poor to mess around with; they're fairly inaccurate, and they don't have the stopping power.
I've enjoyed it, though. The complexity and chaos of the urban areas pretty much dominate some of the weaker and easily exploitable originals, and adding more destructibilty to unpredictable surroundings. It's a solid map pack for me, only because 3 of the 4 maps rectify a few misgivings I had about BF3's originals.
That, and well, I had the Ltd. Edition, so I guess I didn't lose out in the proceedings. £15 is far too much; 800 points should have been the max price.
As for the new Jet, it does play differently. I'm not an ace pilot, but as soon I jumped in one, I felt the turning circle was tighter, the speed was slower. You're right, though, that difference just isn't there with the new Tank and Buggy (sans its firing line).
The new weapons aren't great. They're pretty poor to mess around with; they're fairly inaccurate, and they don't have the stopping power.
I've enjoyed it, though. The complexity and chaos of the urban areas pretty much dominate some of the weaker and easily exploitable originals, and adding more destructibilty to unpredictable surroundings. It's a solid map pack for me, only because 3 of the 4 maps rectify a few misgivings I had about BF3's originals.
That, and well, I had the Ltd. Edition, so I guess I didn't lose out in the proceedings. £15 is far too much; 800 points should have been the max price.
I' m starting to doubt you ever played bf2, as it looked like this:
http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/627/627218/battlefield-2-20050619033815514-000.jpg. If anything, bf3 is looking less like dog poo.
How can you not notice the new vehicles? How is gulf of oman a weak wake island? They are pretty mucht exact replica's of the old maps.. which were old favorites. LOL. And they remodelled the old weapons, so they ARE new. Just because they are the same make and model doesnt mean they literally just copied and pasted it from bf2.
It has become painfully obvious that you have not spent alot of time on this. Just as it was with Jim's review (his stats were just pathetic, fact).
Before anyone throws the whole OPINION argument at me, let me tell you something. Not every opinion makes sense. If you say that BF3 looks like crap, ok, that's a perfectly fine opinion to have. But if you proceed by saying "remember the days when it didnt", when it clearly looked even more brown in the past, then your opinion is based on GIBBERISH.
Lastly, reviewers are expected to look at facts. Which means that you share your opinion ONCE you have spent an adequate amount of time to explore all the content.
It is painfully obvious that you haven't spent much time with it,
http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/627/627218/battlefield-2-20050619033815514-000.jpg. If anything, bf3 is looking less like dog poo.
How can you not notice the new vehicles? How is gulf of oman a weak wake island? They are pretty mucht exact replica's of the old maps.. which were old favorites. LOL. And they remodelled the old weapons, so they ARE new. Just because they are the same make and model doesnt mean they literally just copied and pasted it from bf2.
It has become painfully obvious that you have not spent alot of time on this. Just as it was with Jim's review (his stats were just pathetic, fact).
Before anyone throws the whole OPINION argument at me, let me tell you something. Not every opinion makes sense. If you say that BF3 looks like crap, ok, that's a perfectly fine opinion to have. But if you proceed by saying "remember the days when it didnt", when it clearly looked even more brown in the past, then your opinion is based on GIBBERISH.
Lastly, reviewers are expected to look at facts. Which means that you share your opinion ONCE you have spent an adequate amount of time to explore all the content.
It is painfully obvious that you haven't spent much time with it,
@ depressedoptimus hey you'll need dome pan friends. Mine is njking25 I'm friends with quantum and I have another buddy who speaks all the time we could squad up.
You know what the really funny thing is? Many Battlefield 3 fans will drop fifteen dollars for this map pack, yet if I were to even consider buying the first MW3 map pack (not sure yet), those same Battlefield 3 fans would be all over me insulting me and anyone else who buys it calling us everything from COD fanboys to twelve year old idiotic trolls.
I cannot wait to see if I'm right.
I cannot wait to see if I'm right.
My favorite part is how I don't have 2Gb free to download the update, so now I can't even play with friends. So do I delete the HD graphics package, or just forget it and buy a PC and Team Fortress 2???
You're debating between deleting an "HD package" and spending a lot of money on Valve's glorified attempt at F2P? I'm sorry, but if you're one of the guys who has the 4gig HD on his console...sad
Somebody find this guys soldier profile on battlelog. I'd like to see how long he actually played the maps before he reviewed them.7? I've spent at least 15 hours on these maps, and plan on spending quite a few more months playing on them. 7? Lemme guess, MW3's new maps will be a 9, even though it's the same tired rehashed shit.
I'm one of those guys that likes both MW, and BF games btw.
I'm one of those guys that likes both MW, and BF games btw.
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