The end made me lol for at least two minutes. Oh, and I completely agree with your point about indie games and the community around them.

I look at World of Goo then I look at Super Paper Mario. I actually prefer the former more than the latter. BTW will we be see a HAWP indie special anytime soon?

Annoying piano music is annoying.

Good work

your game sucked

lol I jest I haven't played it or desire to play it

Thanks for the links Rev.

So, you're saying you super-hate Luc Bernard?

I've missed the Rant ever since it stopped being part of RetroForce. I'm happy you resurrected it.

Your game sucks Rev, a lot of people had begrudging respect for you though.

*sees video links underneath the video*

sigh, nm

@HarrassmentPanda

Agreed regarding piano music.

Were I to make an indie game, I'm pretty certain I'm going to use brass quintet renditions of The Art of Fugue. Because I want to melt faces.

You're welcome, Anthony, for the subject matter ;)

I agree that indie shouldn't be given a "free pass" for being less than stellar, but in the case of Blueberry Garden, as I said in the other post, the graphics aren't what's being showcased, and should therefore have a lesser focus than the actual meat of the game (gameplay, message, etc.). I love the art for Blueberry Garden, as well as most of the other games that you've referenced in this rant, but the graphics aren't why you should play any game, independently developed, or AAA title based solely on the way that its art style looks.

God! Why does Anthony hate indie games so much?

platypus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rant

Not only was this a great video, and a great rant, but the end had me laughing my ass off!!!!!

I also liked the little Mecho Wars quote that was kind of slid in there. Awesome!

By the way Rev, can we please get a Rev Lecture? You know, something with research that can be used as a basis of a body of work? No? OK, just a thought.

"shitily/shitilly/shitally/shitty-ly"? just curous about the spelling is all. <3

LOL at Ash.

As for the rant: Fun is fun. Amazing is amazing. Not Fun is not fun. So yeah, I agree.

I didn't like the last game in Indie nation. I played the demo after reading it and its either a really bad demo or a really boring game.

You make some good points throughout, but despite all of the high brow talk, the ending was my favorite part.

I think you kind of muddle your own point in this one. First, you complain about people giving indie games a pass with statements like "the graphics are good, for an indie game," but then you go on to mention Gravity Bone as an example of an indie dev knowing his limits and applying his skills intelligently by not focusing on the graphics.

I think THAT is what people mean when they say "...for an indie game." It's a recognition of the game's goals, and that whatever attribute they're discussing isn't really one of those goals. If the goal of an indie game has nothing to do with its graphics, then there's really a binary scale for the graphics - Playable and Not Playable. If the game sucks then it sucks, to be sure, but it doesn't suck BECAUSE of the graphics.

However, for a AAA game, even if the graphics aren't the point of the game you still have certain expectations just given the fact that it's a AAA title. Gravity Bone's boxy characters would not cut it, for example. AAA games have to meet or exceed their goals and also do pretty goddamn well on all their non-goals too, because they have to appeal to a broad audience. A broad audience expects different things to be good - some love graphics, some love music, some gameplay, etc.

Indie titles are freed from this tyranny of the majority and their audience (usually) has an implicit recognition of the goals and nongoals in the game, and will evaluate the game with these in mind. I don't think that's a bad thing.

You're getting pretty lazy with the trolling, Clown. Didn't wait long enough to post -- I actually read it in a timely fashion, this time. Better step it up, or you'll lose your edge.

Anthony vs Yahtzee

GO

I think Clown just got clowned. FUCK YO

Also, I really want to check out Gravity Bone now. Never heard of it (though I'm sure you covered it) but I like the art style.

Anthony looks funny trying to wear a man-shirt, man-tie.

Great rant, and very well presented, "at a loss for words swearing" aside. I am no prude to language, but the "F'n, F'itty, F'n, shite!" stuff kinda' cheapens the message.

Totally awesome at the end though. That made me, genuinely, laugh out loud.

hahah man the end was priceless , I love your rev rants Antho. I feel like we could be bros in real life. Yes that is as creepy as it sounds. Anyways, looking forward to more of these.

I keep finding silly faces of you whenever I pause it. You should really use those for headers; you'll get way more hits.


(this is the last one, I promise)

I totally on not giving indie games slack. They should totally be judged just as fairly as any other game, commercial or not.

The video is still loading because I've got a shitload of downloads going on, so I don't know if you mention this, but look at independently made music. Sure, a lot of it is shit, but a lot of it is really good too, if not better than a lot of the garbage played on the radio or TV or whatever. But if it's indie or not, if the song is crap, I'm not going to listen to it.

I kinda feel like "indie games" are getting a lot of slack because of this whole "games as art" crap that gamers are trying to showcase for the public to "legitimize" our hobby. You know, the same kind of thing that goes on when people defend No More Heroes' shitty overworld by saying "it's boring on purpose because it's a statement of herf derf burp blarp."

Anyways, I'm rambling now, but it was a good rant, Rev.