Where's the vidya?

Please let me do your green screen work! xD

Turbo retarded?

That sounds pretty intense.

"I'm sorry ma'am, but your son has Turbo Retardation. This means there is never a circumstance where he will not be ACTIVELY retarded. Unlike other boys who might sit and watch TV or play games quietly on occasion, your son would likely prefer to scoop toothpaste with a melon-baller onto your cat and then try to sit on it."

Yup. Spot on Rev.

Reminds me of your Fallout 3 ending rant.

AKA SPOT ON. The ending was "not my Joker".

I hope all the new annoying ads are paying of good for dtoid.

Great rant though.

I agree, as the real Joker would never do something so silly. Still not as bad as RE5's awful ending. "CHRRIIIIIIIIIISSS!!!"

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You guys need to put your vids back on youtube. My computer is crying, even at the lowest settings.

Needs more YouTube. I don't like change.

@Gamera
"If he were going to use it on himself, why inject his flunkies with it? Why wait so long to use it?"

Well that's an easy one. He wanted Bats to suffer: he even states his line from The Killing Joke at the end, "I just wanted you to have one bad day!" When he realized Batman wasn't phased, he gave up and injected himself. That's perfectly understandable: it's how the actual fight ended up that sucked.

If Batman injected Joker with the antidote as well as himself, but was taken aback for enough time for Joker to call in a last bossfight (Clayface), it would have been perfect.

MY POST CONTAINS SPOILERS!




You know, i actually liked the cut scene alot. i thought it had a strong impact on your senses "i just wanted to best you just once, I dont have anything to live for" *pulls trigger

whoa.

But yes the actually FIGHT just doesnt fit. I felt actually felt a quick time event boss fight like Uncharted would have been PERFECT.

I disagree with your rant, mostly because the basis for your argument is invalid. The Joker has been all sorts of things throughout the Batman series, from crazy to funny to deadly to downright idiotic. While it's true that Batman is usually the physically superior character, and that their battle is usually one of the mind, that's usually because the Joker is good at playing trump cards that invalidate Batman's physical prowess. In this regard, I think the ending of the game is highly appropriate and worked really well. It carries through the plot thread that's running throughout the game, and works well in terms of the gameplay.

Yeah, I don't see it as so unbelievable that the Joker would do that. I think this is definitely one of those situations where the community of fans think they understand a character more than they actually do. If the Joker did something that was honestly altruistic? That would be breaking his character. Doing something that lets him beat the crap out of Bats? Totally believable.

But at the same time, you came out of Prototype thinking that you were a 'hero in the cutscene, hitler in the gameplay' character, so I would imagine we have wildly different points of view.

Yep, that's pretty much what I thought.

@Magnalon

Oh yeah....I agree about Clayface...that would have been great!

I'd say that Arkham Asylum is still better than Hulk: Ultimate Destruction though. Hulk had a fun game mechanic, but outside of that it was pretty poor.

Definitely seems like the same thing that happened at the very end of Bioshock.

Happy to see you're back in front of the green screen.

I love how a Gilette add shows up right before the video.

Glad to see you adress the divide between gameplay and narrative. I hate it when a character's flashiest moves are only shown in the cutscenes, or when you kick the boss' ass, only for you to get owned as soon as they take the controls away. Why not have an impossible boss fight that actually tortures you as the character?

mrplow8:"In my opinion, that's exactly like something that the Joker would do. I even predicted that that's what would happen once I figured out the basic plot of the game. To me he was smart and calculating. He had been planning that moment through out the entire game. He sent a tape to Gotham news stations telling them to look on the roof to witness the demise of Batman. And the way he shot Batman with the Titan dart was great. He aimed it at Commissioner Gordon knowing that Batman would jump in front of it. If he had tried to shoot Batman directly, Batman would have avoided it. His plan the whole time was to end with "two freaks in a fight to the death." Of course, that didn't happen, because Batman used the antidote on himself."

Agree 100% with this. The Joker would absolutely LOVE a televised fight with Batman as a horrible monster, and Batman would rather get killed at the hands of the Joker instead of allowing his plans to play out. Fuck..I though the end was fantastic.

Also, I agree with darkopiate. Ranting about B:AA is kind of ridiculous. Maybe someone will make a pretentious, indie Batman "game" with no real gameplay or story and 8-bit graphics of which you can extol the virtues.

I can see both sides here. I can see where it didn't make sense and my first time finishing the game I thought "well that was to easy and a little odd." But after watching this another thought came about. The Joker planned all this out from the start, he is a schemer after all.

He started the plot in motion before he got captured, he knew of the formula and what it was capable of. So what does he do? He breaks out, gets easily captured to lure Bats into Arkham thinking something is wrong. Joker breaks free and what happens...Bats has to fight his way through all the super villans, well not all but you get the idea, in one place. Its not all spread out over a city or one every once in a while, he gets them all in 1 fucking night, in a confined space. Its the reason why the Joker was always stalling Batman trying to misdirect him, why? Because at the end of it all he would have his formula, and the possibility of a wounded and tired Batman to pick on. Everything else he tried on Bats didn't seem to work so why not try the other end of the spectrum? He knows Batman has rules that he won't break, he knows that Bats won't kill him in cold blood, so what does he have to lose? More time on a life sentence?

I'm not convinced that he would, but keep in mind this is the Joker, the emboidment of chaos, everything is possible.

no more beard? all your points are made invalid since your Beard of Authority is gone.

jk

It's very unfortunate when a developer builds and creates characters and gameplay mechanics which mesh wonderfully...only to toss them aside in the end for the "epic" final boss fight. It's a damn shame they end of wasting all that time and effort for a ho hum generic ending.

I both agree and disagree with you. On one end of the spectrum Joker's final actions did seem a bit unlike him, but then at the same time.... Given everything that happened in the game it seemed only logical that he would choose that course of action.

He was very calculating throughout the whole game. Everything that happened from the moment you bring him back to the asylum in the beginning of the game he has pretty much schemed. The action he takes in the end of the game seemed (to me) like the last act of a desperate man. He knew he had no other options to win so he did something that seemed a bit out of character. Part of me felt it was a little odd, but the larger part thought it seemed fitting that he would take the "if you want it done right, do it yourself" approach when he had no other options.

Perhaps what would've been more fitting is if... while trying to attack Batman with his special projectile weapon (trying to avoid major spoilers)... Batman blocked the shot his wrist armor and the projectile ricochets and winds up hitting Joker... triggering the final boss battle. I think perhaps a simple change in the way it happened may have made it more... palatable to those who feel the ending wasn't really in line with what the joker's character and what he would've done.

Video players to choppy on my shit computer.

What a ludicrously small gripe to have created a video for.

With a game as excellent as Arkham Asylum, I can easily forgive a couple of trite gameplay techniques here and there for boss fights and the like. I've lost count of the number of villains that seem to take 3 identical attack patterns to put down.

But to criticise the ending for it being 'out of character' seems bizarre. Firstly The Joker is a fictional character, as much as you may think he means something to you, he is an invention of a mortal's mind, shaped through hundreds of different writers. In fact it is one of those writers, Paul Dini, who has penned this scenario.

*oh yeah, spoilers lay in wait*

From my limited experience of the Joker, I see him as an agent of chaos, concocting immense plans and schemes to bring about the greatest level of mayhem. We definitely see this side of him in Arkham Asylum, a brilliant ploy to topple the asylum and destroy Gotham. As Batman consistently manages to halt the plans, even down to resisting the titan formula, Joker mockingly 'gives up' and feigns suicide with the injector. As the final act of a desperate criminal, turning the formula on himself seems appropriate, especially as it is guaranteed to bring about more choas and mayhem.

The actual boss fight shows more of Jokers desire for bedlam, taunting the news helicopter and viewers back in Gotham instead of using his new form to get down and dirty to do away with Batman himself.

Yes the ending could have been handled much better, the fight itself is incredibly tedious and anybody that has played a few of the challenge rooms will have absolutely no trouble with it. That however, is the only criticism I feel is vaild. After all, this scenario was written by a man who has won Eisners and Harvey awards for his Batman work, who are we to say he has betrayed the Joker's remit

I second/third/fourth the idea of putting the Dtoid videos back on YouTube. It's killing my framerate to watch it this way.