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RetRose Tinted: Super Punch-Out!! photo

Few games have helped to mold and shape my love of gaming more than Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!. Mr. Dream can suck it for all I care, Iron Mike and his wacky rapist ways will always hold a place in my heart. I would have done a RetRose Tinted on that game long ago if I didn't feel as though my near-monthly replaying of it wasn't exactly in the spirit of this column.

Super Punch-Out!! is a different story altogether. Despite many attempts over the years to actually own a copy of the cartridge, I've never really managed to do it. This means that I haven't played it more than a few times since I was fourteen years of age, had purchased a disk backup device and totally did not download a copy off a cartridge from the video rental shop down the street. My mother (who has always taken a very dim view of piracy) forced me to return the backup system when she somehow caught wind of it and that was the end of my brief stewardship of the game.

Its appearance on Virtual Console this week reminded me of it, however, and I suddenly became overwhelmed with the same need to play it as I did in my awkward teenage years. Now I have and that means you'll be blessed with my assessment of the game. Lucky you!

Punch-Out!!/Super Punch-Out

Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! is in a lot of ways, actually just a dumbed-down version of the arcade Punch-Out!! and Super Punch-Out!! is less a follow-up to its NES cousin than an expanded remake of the arcade sequel of same name. Take the above screenshot as an example. On the left, we have the original arcade game and the right is Super Punch-Out!! in nearly identical scenarios fighting against Piston Hurricane.

Fans who are accustomed to the 8-bit home console Punch-Out!! may have some difficulty adjusting to this more arcade-faithful SNES title. Seasoned players should have little difficulty handling the first third or so of the game, as you can get away with a "dodge, punch, repeat" pattern for the most part. But to be successful against later opponents, you really have to dive into the much more complex strategies that this game has to offer.

Super Punch-Out!!

Your boxer in Super Punch-Out!! has a few more options at his disposal than Little Mac did, as well as more weaknesses. He automatically blocks his midsection to guard against body blows and must be told to cover his head. There's no penalty for blocking a punch other than missing a potential opportunity to strike back at your opponent however, and it's a viable method of defense. Alternately, you can dodge left and right as well as duck down to avoid getting glove (and sometimes foot) in your face.

Throwing punches is a bit more complicated also. You can perform body-blows and jabs with either fist but your right actually packs a bit more punch (so to speak). As you land punches, the meter across the bottom of the screen will fill while getting hit takes a big chunk out. If you max out the meter, you can perform some special techniques, including heavy hooks, uppercuts and rapid-fire punches that can land multiple hits but run the risk of leaving you open for a shot or two when blocked.

What's really cool is the counterattack system. When your opponent is in the midst of taking a swing at you, you can counter by using the same punch with the opposing hand. Time it right and you'll do a good bit of damage and stun them in the process, giving ample opportunity to land still more hits. It's tricky to do until you've managed to really get the patterns of the boxers down pat and later fighters act much more randomly. Still, learning to counter successfully is a huge part of the game and essential to continued success.

Super Punch-Out!!

If you're a big fan of the characters in the Punch-Out!! games, it's hard to say whether or not you'll like the ones appearing in Super Punch-Out!!. Only three of the characters from the NES game return: Mr. Sandman Super Macho Man and Bald Bull. You'll probably be happy to hear that the latter is still an insufferable prick when he wins, but no longer performs that haunting and cruel chicken clucking.

Why the iconic King Hippo was not chosen to return in this game is beyond me. Worse, he's been replaced on the fat guy fighting circuit by a couple of far more annoying boxers in the lumberjacking Bear Hugger and a stereotype named Mad Clown. In fact, lots of the characters in this are less humorous and more frustrating than those which appear in the NES title. 

They do come packed with some really clever and challenging abilities, however. Dragon Chan (and his later clone, Hoy Quarlow) bounces around the ropes before planting a difficult to dodge attack on your face. The luchadore, Masked Muscle has a clever technique where he spits in your eye, disorienting you for a considerable amount of time if you fail to dodge while he wails away on your battered body. Strangest of all is probably Heike Kagero, a transvestite in makeup who whips you with his hair.

Super Punch-Out!!

I don't think I can stress enough how much more difficult Super Punch-Out!! really is. The game does try to help you out a bit by giving you a number of lives to work with rather than ranking you down and making you fight an opponent you may have only squeaked past before. Still, it's very easy to wind up frittering them all away on a particularly difficult fight. 

There are also no breaks in the action in this game. Fights last three minutes and go non-stop until you or your opponent are down for the count or the time expires, at which point you'll probably lose by decision. You do have an opportunity to restore some lost stamina after knocking down your opponent by hammering on the punch buttons as quickly as possible. This really only works in the first two of the game's four circuits, though. After that, most boxers are back on their feet by the count of two and you'll be lucky to have healed up at all.

Super Punch-Out!!

It's still a really good game and one I can recommend picking up if you enjoy Punch-Out!! for the NES. I can't say I like it as much, but that may simply be due to the simplicity that the 8-bit game has. It just feels much easier to pick up and play without the extra moves and the counter system and I don't feel that the characters have nearly the same amount of charm without the chatter from them and Doc Brown between rounds. Worth playing? Sure. Just don't expect it to be on the same plane as its more popular predecessor.








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OmegaPlatinum's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 17:09
OmegaPlatinum
I miss Little Mac :P
pG99's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 17:17
pG99
I miss beating up Mike Tyson :-P
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 17:21
Chris Carter
I find this game to be much better than Punchout NES in almost every way possible. I don't get all the rave about the difficulty in the NES version, because multiple boxers had easy weaknesses (see Flamenco's infinite punch), and the only really hard characters were Mr. Sandman, Super Macho Man (both who come back for Super), and Mr. Dream/Tyson.

To me, Punch Out is all about the boxers, and in Super Punch Out, they didn't all feel the same. In the NES version, the only one that had a special ability/feel was King Hippo, and he was too easy. The entire last circuit of Super was epic.

Super Punch Out had a ton of memorable boxers (like Hieke Kagero, pictured 1st). Also if you ask me, Mad Clown kicks the shit out of King Hippo. Dodging his juggling balls and getting sucked in his stomach is a lot more fun than Hippo, who loses his luster after your first encounter with him.

Also, time trails extended the life of the game.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 17:43
mrplow8
I don't even think my mom knows what piracy is.
hitnrun's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 17:52
hitnrun
Agreed with Magnalon. I understand people's nostalgia, but Super Punch Out is *still* a great game. They could up the resolution to an HD ratio and release it on XBLA and I'd pay $10 for it tomorrow.
FrankieViturello's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 17:59
FrankieViturello
FYI this game is also included as a "free bonus" on every copy of Fight Night Round 2 for the Gamecube. Works perfectly on Wii.

Of course the Virtual Console version is also perfect (and convenient) ... but there may be some people who own Fight Night 2 for Gamecube (or might be able to snag it for less than the VC price) and not realize that they can play it on Wii with a Gamecube controller (and a Gamecube memory card for the save file).

JUST SAYIN'
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 18:03
Monodi
Even when Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! is the king of the franchise, Super Punch-Out!! is the prince that everyone fucking ignored.

They have a special place in my heart, especially Super Punch Out and the arcade version which had knuckle handles, it made me a huge fan of boxing, and I am still one.

What I love of the whole series are the stereotyped characters with goofy characteristics. Remember Narcise on the SNES version? You punch him in the face and he becomes from a porcelain doll to a dumb angry jock. Or how about Bear Hugger? Even if he is not King Hippo, his "hurrr?" expressions are brilliant. Dragon Chan is definitely one of my favorites, pure chinese stereotype and cartoon inspired most probably by Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee. "HOY-YAH!"

And lets's also talk about Mac in this game, Nintendo never confirmed if he was a reimagination of out black-haired Bronx champion, still he had a cameo on... I think it was Fight Night for GameCube, he was under the name of MAC and that's all. It would be fucking amazing if he was included in the Wii version in homage.

Punch-Out!! is one of the best things that ever happened to Nintendo not only for being highly addictive and absolutely fun, but also for having a really wide of characters mostly inspired by common people but dispersed all around teh world. It is cultural, funny, addictive, a lot of fun!

I still find inspired how an undersized man can become the mightiest contender for the most brutal and frightening in the world.
theredpepperofdoom's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 18:05
theredpepperofdoom
I know what I'm getting on VC soon.
Emphasis on "soon".
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 18:06
Monodi
@hitnrun

Sorry to shit your idea but that is like asking for a WiiWare game of Gears of War.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 18:16
Aaron Mxy Yost
I looooooove Super Punch-Out!! In the butt.
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 18:18
Nick Chester
You are wrong, wrong, and wrong. Super Punch-Out!! is incredible, and purchasing it from the Wii Shop Channel and then playing it today has confirmed that. Conrad, we are in a fight and you are wrong. ;)
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 18:35
Chronic Logic
Wait a minute! Kicking people isn't legal in boxing!
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 19:38
Excel-2011
My mom invented rental piracy.
Endstiem's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 19:42
Endstiem
Superior to the Nes game in EVERY aspect. Fuck Punch Out Wii.... give me an update of this version.

Oh, and Pilotwings, while you're at it.
hitnrun's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:09
hitnrun
@Monodi: I wasn't suggesting it, just stating a fact. I'd pay for it. I certainly wouldn't pay $10 for the original.

For context, that's exactly why I don't own a Wii, because the reason I'd buy one, ie the Virtual Console, overcharges for games that should cost a buck or less. Super Punch Out would be an exception, even if it was on XBLA competing against real modern products.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:11
Demtor
I kicked the shit out of this game when I was in the 6th grade. It felt just as good then as when I did it all over again last year while working overnights. Such an awesome game with so many clever fighters with varying "tells" and incredibly quick movements. I can still picture the left to right step before the hair whipping bitch lets it whirl... I have nightmares about it. I seriously had to rematch him/her at least about 50 times before I could beat her without save states.

The character art often reminds me of Hagime No Ippo. Which is aces in my book! Such a great anime that really can be seen as the counterpart to any good dose of Super Punch-Out. Ippo is my little Mac, for sure.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:45
Brian Szabelski
Super Punch-Out!! is the real reason I bought Fight Night 2 for the GameCube.
Danger Mouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:49
Danger Mouse
Narcis Prince for the win. Very clever and unique fight, like most of the ones in the game.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 02:20
ParaParaKing
You should have really gone into some detail why Mike Tyson's Punch Out would be better than this.
Batthink's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 07:15
Batthink
I just lurved this game. Me and my friend had a ball going through each boxer in turn, as well as seeing how quickly we could knock out the lower-ranked boxers. :O)
Greylocke's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 08:36
Greylocke
I loved this more than the original, and going back and doing time trials was great. It was cool to be able KO someone in 6 seconds. All the characters had ... character. And Hoy was a pain in the behind. I thought he was way harder than Rick and Nick Bruiser. Rick and Nick were just big punching bags. Dodge their punches and wear them down. Hoy was just a ridiculous old man that caused me to want to pull my hair out.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 10:12
Jonathan Holmes
I also love Super Punch-Out more than the original. It's deeper, it looks better, and probably most important, it just feels better when you hit a guy right in the face an hear him go "ORrr!"

Narcis Prince > King Hippo.
Conrad Zimmerman's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 14:01
Conrad Zimmerman
As I said, I don't think it's bad. I just think Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! is easier to play. This is almost certainly the better game but it just comes down to that I get more enjoyment out of playing the NES game.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 20:47
Jonathan Holmes
Way to be reasonable and ruin the fight, Conrad.
Akitoscorpio's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2009 11:29
Akitoscorpio
The game lost me when I was finding myself being wailing on by a old man with a stick.... SERIOUSLY?
Mesarphelous's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 19:06
Mesarphelous
Incredibly good game, nostalgia be damned.
kunayo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 19:58
kunayo
Yeah this brings back many happy memories of late nights and sore thumbs, is it just me but i swear the bruiser brothers were'nt
actually as 'ard as some of the over guys. i got this on the snes emulator n e 1 else?
http://hightechneek.blogspot.com/
mikeyed's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2009 19:29
mikeyed
Probably my favourite game for the SNES after Super Metroid, Super Mario RPG, Sunset Riders, Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island, Samurai Showdown, Super Contra, Super Empire Strikes Back, and Mega Man X. Well, I guess that's a long list, but it's definitely in the top ten. Oh, I forgot Super Mario Kart... top twenty?

I agree wholeheartedly, better than Punch out!!! for the NES in every way, even including your petty sentimentality.
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