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RetroforceGO! records episode 89 tonight: Punch-Out!! photo

Yes, it's early! And given the tone of the past couple of episodes, that might be a good thing. Perhaps recording earlier in the week will stave off our appetite for nonsense. Probably not, though. In any case, the full cast is back this week and we're ready to commemorate the release of Punch-Out!! for the Wii with an episode all about the franchise.

If you've ever listened to our show, you're well aware of Colette's deep-seeded hatred for Soda Popinski, Chad's penchant for punching elderly women in the face, and our collective overall love of beating the crap out of people on the whole. Taking these factors into account, I'd say we're probably looking at a pretty fun episode. And it's two days early! What more could you ask for? I mean, aside from bacon. Hit the comments with your questions and we'll get this one out to you in time for Wednesday.


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ryu89 at 05/12/2009 13:06
Sweet! I'm looking forward to this one.

A question for you: Why is it that people seem to enjoy the original NES punch out over the SNES Super Punch Out? I'm NOT of that camp, and when I look back Super Punch Out is a technically better game then punch out because it expanded on what was there. There wasn't just one super punch, there were multiple variations that were handy in different situations. The graphics were updated, but still kept the wacky style from the previous game. Is it because the sequel was missed by so many, and they don't have a personal history with it, or is there something that much better about the original that I miss when I play it?
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Jaren Face at 05/12/2009 13:08
Honesty, Punch Out!! was my favourite game for the NES. Just thinking back to the countless hours trying to get to Mike Tyson and having him destroy me brings a smile to my face.

My question is do you believe that the Little Macs of Punch Out!! and Super Punch Out!! are the same fighter?

Although Super Punch Out!! allowed you to name your boxer, the Gamecube version of Fight Night Round 2 had him as an unlockable character dubbed Little Mac. Personally, I don't buy into that, but I was wondering what you guys thought of it (if you cared at all that is).
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Senisan82 at 05/12/2009 13:09
I never beat Tyson. I think he's also one of the first bosses to make me cry out of frustration...I still cry to this day.
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Rabspat at 05/12/2009 13:11
Are there any decent Punch-Out!! imitators out there?
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Fleet3000 at 05/12/2009 13:12
i have the ultimate fantasy boxing question for yall:

who would win in a boxing match? little mac, or rocky?
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seifd at 05/12/2009 13:12
In the new Punch-Out!! game for the Wii, do you plan to give the new motion controls a try or are you going to go straight to the classic style controls?
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Xhumation at 05/12/2009 13:14
in the original NES Punch Out! Glass Joe is 1-99.

That means he beat one guy.

Who do you think the person that was beaten by Glass Joe was?
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SuitcoatAvenger at 05/12/2009 13:15
Who had the best theme? I'm partial to Don Flamenco myself..
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TheCleaningGuy at 05/12/2009 13:15
If you were one punch out character, who would you be? And how would you adjust their name? (i.e. Piston Hamza)
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rhk at 05/12/2009 13:16
How many times have you replayed punch out in one sitting? (just trying and trying to get past that one guy)
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Tha Meat at 05/12/2009 13:16
Don Flamenco is a little bitch! Discuss?
odber's Avatar
odber at 05/12/2009 13:17
RetroforceGO! on tuesday? Hell yeah bring it on. For starters I have to admit that I have not played any of the Punch Out! games ever. First thing I ever saw of it was a shopped picture with "nigga stole my bike" of the training montage. You know what I'm talking about. I hope that no old ladies were harmed in the making of this episode.

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bahss at 05/12/2009 13:18
If you could fight in person, any of the punch out characters, who would you fight and why?
And,
If you could insert any video game character into the game to beat up on, who would it be and approximately what difficulty would it be?
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NihonTiger90 at 05/12/2009 13:19
Have any of you ever played the original arcade versions of Punch Out and Super Punch Out? If so, what are your thoughts, and why aren't poor Kid Quick and Pizza Pasta in any of the games?
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d0nfil0fi0 at 05/12/2009 13:19
What do you think is the key that makes Punch Out So addictive compared to other Fighting games? I mean, it has only one player mode, the movements are kind of limited (just dodging and a couple of punches, compared to games with more moves, like Street Fighter) and it only has one character. Is like the opposite of the modern fighting game, but even then, IT'S SO DAMN AWESOME. Why do yo think that happens?

Also, Was this your first fighting game experience? Is this game the best introduction you can have into the Fighting Genre and how much did it impact you to start loving/hating fighting games?
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calpis at 05/12/2009 13:19
When I was a kid my older brother told me you could catch up to the coach when he was stealing your bike by mashing the buttons track and field style. Well it didn't take me long to realize he lied to me, only about 2 weeks or so. What are some of your favorite punch-out rumors?
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Char Aznable at 05/12/2009 13:20
Seriously, wasn't it bullshit that Hoy Quarlow could use a weapon in Super Punch Out?



I'm also putting forth the suggestion that Super Macho Man has the most amazing pecs in the world, Brad Nicholson be damned:

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Phoenix Gamma at 05/12/2009 13:20
Using the Start Button to uppercut. Terrible attack button, or terriblest attack button?

Also, what are some other games where you're a total underdog? The reason I love Punch Out so much (besides to great gameplay and racial stereotypes) is the fact that you're a tiny guy beating up a bunch of bullies while the audience cheers you on and the awesome music plays.

I always feel pumped when I beat the tar out of an adversary that's been pushing me around match after match. Who's laughing now Bald Bull?! ME.
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d0nfil0fi0 at 05/12/2009 13:21
What do you think is the key that makes Punch Out So addictive compared to other Fighting games? I mean, it has only one player mode, the movements are kind of limited (just dodging and a couple of punches, compared to games with more moves, like Street Fighter) and it only has one character. Is like the opposite of the modern fighting game, but even then, IT'S SO DAMN AWESOME. Why do yo think that happens?

Also, Was this your first fighting game experience? Is this game the best introduction you can have into the Fighting Genre and how much did it impact you to start loving/hating fighting games?
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CitizenErased at 05/12/2009 13:21
If Mike Tyson is in the new Punch Out game should he have a move where he bites both your ears of, rapes you and then goes to prison for three years?
Char Aznable's Avatar
Char Aznable at 05/12/2009 13:22
Oops, here are Super Macho Man's glorious pecs:

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Kraid at 05/12/2009 13:23
How could've Nintendo got away with so many racial stereotypes???
That game is straight up racist.

Sushi, kamikaze, fujiyama, nipponichi...
Senisan82's Avatar
Senisan82 at 05/12/2009 13:24
I was looking up Soda Popinski and apparently he was really a vodka sipping drunkard named Vodka Drunkenski, discuss.
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Moofey at 05/12/2009 13:24
How about the guy who lost to glass joe? How much of a loser do you have to be to lose to him?
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eYak at 05/12/2009 13:25
Anyone actually try Punch Out with the U-Force? It's the only game that actually made that POS peripheral look fun.
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riomccarthy at 05/12/2009 13:25
Did any of you ever get a pink sweatsuit and go jogging after playing the game?

How awesome was Doc Louis? :D

If you could be a new fighter in the game what would your name be?
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Dimly at 05/12/2009 13:29
Could you do me a favor and dream up the most racially insensitive, blatantly stereotyped Punch Out!! fighter real quick?
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elmikey at 05/12/2009 13:31
If the Retroforce crew was in Punch-Out, what would your boxing name be and special move? Also in Punch-Out Dtoid who would be the final fighter, Brad"I punched God" Nicholson or Mr Destructoid?
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n0brein at 05/12/2009 13:31
As a kid I never played Mike Tysons punch out, my neighbours game featured a certain Mr. Dream who was from "Dreamland" instead of Tyson. Has anyone of you guys had that version or were you all Tyson purists?

Bonus question: After the Podtoid madness this morning/yesterday evening adam played some nice music in the ustream, and as I music geek I'm interested in what music you guys listen to :)
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pixelheresy at 05/12/2009 13:31
Too bad there aren't going to be any old ladies for Chad to beat up!

I think one of the things that made the original NES gem so memorable was the simple (yet strategic) gameplay and the fun cinematic elements. Do you guys think that with the new one keeping the quirky characters that they will be able to capture the charm of the original without ramping up the glitz with tiring animation or scaling down the difficulty arc to make it "more accessible" to the Wii-moms?
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Char Aznable at 05/12/2009 13:34
Have you ever been more furious with a video game character than when Bald Bull would defeat you with his charge move? After taking you down, he would laugh like a braying donkey right in your face. What a total dick.

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Darkanubis87 at 05/12/2009 13:37
in the spirit of Mr.Destructoid being added to BombermanLive! Do you think Brad Nicholson should be included as a playable character and/or boss?? now that is what i call a "massive" download. *OH!hohohohohoho*
Isay Isay's Avatar
Isay Isay at 05/12/2009 13:37
It's Thursday?! Man, that Lost finale must have really screwed up time.

Which boxer gave you most trouble? (CURSE YOU POPINSKI!!!!!!!!!)
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jay section at 05/12/2009 13:41
If you all could take any retro game, and add DLC content to it (kinda like how playing as Protoman in Megaman 9 was DLC), which game would you add it to and what would you add?

Sorry, couldn't think of a Punch-Out specific question.
Char Aznable's Avatar
Char Aznable at 05/12/2009 13:45
Alright, last one, I promise. Punch-Out!! just gets me all tingly inside.



Chad, I think Heike Kagero is about as close as we're getting to an old woman for you to punch in the face. Would he/she make an acceptable substitute?

Also, if Rip Taylor was a boss in this game, what confetti-related attacks could he use?
randombullseye's Avatar
randombullseye at 05/12/2009 13:45
Did you ever beat Mike Tyson?

Even with the password, savestates, whatever. I'm curious if you beat him. Or did you fight "Mr. Dream?"

Also, arcade version with the green body, thoughts?
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heyricochet at 05/12/2009 13:45
@Rabspat There actually are a couple good imitators. Super KO Boxing (mobile) is a fantastic punch-out like game, I've put many an hour into it. Also (someone's) Punch King for GBA was also supposed to be a good clone, I've been looking for it for a while but haven't been able to find it.
Isay Isay's Avatar
Isay Isay at 05/12/2009 13:48
007 373 5963

For some reason, I still remember this number
randombullseye's Avatar
randombullseye at 05/12/2009 13:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzib6ig_riE

Just in case no one knows what the arcade version looked like.


ALSO:

What's your thoughts on the Arm Wrestling game that was related to the series? They shared some of the same characters. MORE YOU KNOW!

ALSO ALSO:

What's your thoughts on the bike song? You know which one.
Monodi's Avatar
Monodi at 05/12/2009 13:51
Why is Heike Kagero such a pansy bitch?

Who is filling the champion bout this time on the Wii? Is mr Dream coming back, Nick Bruiser perhaps?
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Magnalon at 05/12/2009 13:53
What is your favorite blatant stereotype found in the Punchout!! series?

If you could add one Nintendo mascot to fight in Punchout Wii, who would it be?
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JTHomeslice at 05/12/2009 13:58
Mario as the referee. Discuss.

Also, did anyone notice that in the new Punchout, Doc starts to say to join the Nintendo Fun Club, but catches himself and says to read Nintendo Power. That made me laugh.
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smurfee mcgee at 05/12/2009 14:07
Who stole your bike?

Also, have you guys gotten the old ones on the Wii?
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Manny Calavera at 05/12/2009 14:14
How do you feel about when Mike Tyson was changed into Mr. Dream (following his *ahem* fall from grace) they changed Mike into a white man with a ludicrous name?

Also, Did you know Glass Joe even lost to his own student, Gabby Jay? It was the only battle he ever won too.
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Chronic Logic at 05/12/2009 14:29
Notice how alot of the people in Punch Out hardly follows the rules? You can only punch people. But everybody else is pulling some crazy stuff that is illegal. Kicking? Illegal. Juggling? Illegal. Using weapons? DEFINITELY ILLEGAL!
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SAMUSiAM at 05/12/2009 14:34
Is there anyone that you have met in your real life that could pass for a punch out character. I swear to god Bald Bull is in the cube next to me I'll try to snap a pic.
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JadedJedi at 05/12/2009 14:41
Who would win in a match between Glass Joe and Gabby Jay?
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TonySwank at 05/12/2009 14:42
Did anyone else have trouble watching an episode of Family Matters without thinking about the similarities between Doc and Carl Winslow? He even rides a bike in the intro.
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Move the Bongos at 05/12/2009 15:02
Why is Super Macho Man so much harder than Tyson?
Jesus H Christ's Avatar
Jesus H Christ at 05/12/2009 15:08
Do you guys want some Skittles? I brought enough for everyone.
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