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RetroforceGO! recording way early today, episode 24: Mario retrospective part 2 photo

Welcome, listeners! Here we are again with an ... ugh ... okay, you know what? I'm not going to do that. I seriously just woke up like ten minutes ago and I'm going to need some caffeine before I can get excited about anything. Retroforce is recording much earlier than usual today.

Last week, we brought you part 1 of our Super Mario Super Special, and now it's time to seal the deal. We'll be discussing all of our favorite 3D romps through the Mushroom Kingdom, from Mario 64 all the way to the newly released Super Mario Galaxy. Which one was your favorite? Did you hate the transition to 3D? No, really, Peach or Daisy? Hit the comments with your questions, and we'll be doing this thing shortly!








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jdub28's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:20
jdub28
This is a question somebody did a blog about earlier but where do you guys think mario can go from galaxy?
Rogue Trooper's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:22
Rogue Trooper
Could you please bring the Peach or Daisy thing up again? I love hearing Chad when he's angry.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:22
Darren Nakamura
Chad, Charlie, and I talked about the Peach vs. Daisy thing at the Nerdcore launch party, and the verdict was a resounding Peach. It's strange for me because I prefer brunettes, but Peach just rocks so hardcore in Super Smash Bros. Melee.

What is up with them semi-renaming her from Princess Toadstool to Peach starting with Mario 64? Is her name Peach Toadstool? Why don't we still refer to her by her full title?

I just went back and played Super Mario Bros. 3 on the VC last night, which must have been the first time in like eight years that I've played the game, and I was just simply amazed at how good the levels are. Not only that, but I was amazed to find that I just instinctively knew where the powerups would be.

But which is the best 2D Mario? Definitely Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, and you people (except Chad) should be ashamed of yourselves for not having played it.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:25
Gameboi
I know he's a turle, and turtles are slow after all, but will Bowser ever come to the conclusion that he just can't win?
LethalHairdo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:31
LethalHairdo
MARIO TEACHES TYPING!!!

Okay...for cereal tho...we can fondly remember how AWESOME most Mario games are. But what was the most absurd/worst abortion of a game to be attached to the Mario universe...BESIDES the CD-i games?
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:33
Anthony Burch
Knowing how interesting Rosalina's story is, how much hotter she is, and how not-irritating her voice is, would you want to see her replacing that stupid bitch, Peach? (Note: I would)

Also, best episode post pic ever.
LethalHairdo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:38
LethalHairdo
DOLPHIN PLANET! I bet they ride around in these on that place.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:45
Topher Cantler
HAHAHA! I really hope that car is owned by a woman. Not because of the dolphins or the color, mind you, but because real men don't drive Lamborghinis.
naia-the-gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:49
naia-the-gamer
2D Marios all the way.

I've always had problems with the camera and analog stick. Now that I've played Galaxy I'm starting to think it's me.

Not that I hated Galaxy. In fact I think it's the best of the 3D Marios (yay Bee suit!). However, I found myself liking the 2.5D stages in Galaxy more than anything else. Some of the 3D stages gave me vertigo.

I also think you guys should count the Mario RPG's are at least part of a secondary franchise to the main Mario series. They're very well-done, and have some of the most entertaining dialog in any video game.
Chad Concelmo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:56
Chad Concelmo
OMG, TOPHER! BEST PICTURE EVER!
... I want to live on that planet ... :)
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 14:58
GrayFox
You guys should totally start off today's episode with the little clip of Rosalina saying "Let us begin!". It's very Concelmo.
RitualNet's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:08
RitualNet
Did Mario make the games, or did the games make Mario? If Ninty had put someone else in the very first Mario games, would we be discussing him/her/it instead?
SR388's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:16
SR388
I am completely sold on SMG as the best 3d Mario ever, if not the best Mario period.

My question:

Does anyone remember the promo video that Nintendo sent out to Nintendo Power subscribers, right before the N64's release? I ask that because in that video they had footage of Super Mario 64, and at that young age I was completely sold on how awesome the N64 was going (supposed) to be. The concept of Mario in 3-D was the most amazing thing ever! Any such memories for anyone else?

And also what is everyone’s favorite non-platforming Mario game? My vote has to be Mario Golf on the N64 as it was the last game my family really played together until the Wii came out.



Also thanks to Topher for getting the lost episodes on iTunes! These will help make the drive home for Thanksgiving break go by faster(or simply make me more prone to crash).
lowercaseluke's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:17
lowercaseluke
What do you guys think of the news that Galaxy is selling relatively slowly in Japan, having not yet even racked up 500,000 sales? Is this a sign that casual games have replaced Mario in their cold Japanese hearts?
SR388's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:21
SR388
Oh Here is a link to said promo video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv9hgPhh4HU

ahh sweet memories!
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:21
Phoenix Gamma
When are we going to see a 3D Mario that uses power-ups in the same vein as the 2D games? Even in Galaxy, the power-ups are throw aways, lasting only a few seconds and only good for one or two spots.

Also Daisy's way better than Peach. Daisy got kidnapped once and learned her lesson. Peach got kidnapped a million bajillion times, and still hasn't stepped up security.

And I'll go one record by saying that I liked Sunshine a bit more than 64, if only for its levels. The bosses are forgettable.

And last question before I start pressing F5 until the podcast is posted: thoughts on New Mario Bros? Personally thought it was disappointing what with the 100+ lives I had and lack of cool powerups outside of the Koopa shell, and the fact that fireballs kill all bosses after just a few hits.

DEATH TO BOWSER JR.! LONG LIVE THE KOOPALINGS!
Tristero's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:26
Tristero
I'm all about some Rosalina. She's got such a cute haircut, the way her bangs kind of droop down over one eye. Peach never did anything for me, but I could definitely see myself cozying up next to the fire while Rosalina read me passages from the Star Bible. I'm not sure if that's a euphemism or not.

Are you guys tearing through Galaxy as fast as you can? Or are you going through and getting every single star before you beat it? Personally, I'm trying to beat every galaxy completely, including the comet stars, before moving on to the next one, just so I can make it last longer. I don't want the damn thing to ever end.

Plus, I know this clip is super old, but I always get so delighted about watching Mario curse at Luigi over the spaghetti on his shirt. What can I say? I'm easy to please.
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:35
trydizon
Since we live in a world of re-makes and re-issues, would you like to see a 3D Super Mario Game that chronicles the 2D platformers (SMB 1-3 & SMW)?

Imagine having access to all power-ups and a Yoshi in a 3D world. Who doesn't miss making a leap of faith onto a flagpole ftw, instead of collecting the Star. Imagine cutting the rope on the bridge with the axe in 3D. Who doesn't miss opening potion doors and throwing veggies from the ground? TANOOKI SUIT!...in 3D! The 3D Yoshi engine has already been developed. After some tweaking, it would be perfect. Would you implement the "Collect the Stars" system? It would all be amazing.
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:40
trydizon
I totally agree with Rev. Rosalina ftw. She's sort of a new-age Peach who doesn't wear pink and has better hair. If Rosalina's hair was dark and Nintendo did not have friend codes, then the world would be perfect.

I never thought my Peach vs. Daisy question would cause this much of a ruckus. I hope I'm not the Yoko Ono of RFGO. That would be very not cool.
jdub28's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:45
jdub28
any one remeber the dolphins you can ride on in that one level of super mario world
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:49
Darren Nakamura
Also, did you guys hear that Super Mario Galaxy is now ranked as the number one game of all time on GameRankings?

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y

Oh, how weird! The top three games ever are Mario, Zelda, and Metroid? What a strange coincidence! Your thoughts?
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:52
Fading Star
@SR388

I like Mario Tennis. I would to see Nintendo make a Mario Hockey game. You could beat the crap out of Bowser with a hockey stick!

They should leave Rosalina, Daisy, and Toadstool in the series just so we can see them fight each other, hopefully for Mario's affection.

Bowser must press on!

Turtles are not slow! The TMNT can move around just fine.

Mario Time Machine?

The Mario RPG Series is excellent.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:53
Bob Muir
Rosalina is teh sex.

Also, am I crazy for passing up the purchase of a rare, mint "big PS1 box" release of Resident Evil 1 for $10?
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 15:59
Fading Star
Maybe. Maybe not. We're not here to judge.
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 16:02
CypherVR
Thoughts on "The Super Mario Bros. Super Show" when it first debuted/when you first saw it and now looking back


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTkuCXRZnyM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65uNCLBTje0

DO "THE MARIO"!.........>_>;
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 16:07
trydizon
@CypherVR: I can't believe Sgt. Slaughter was on that show. Still, good times.

Also, omit Super Paper Mario's existence if you consider my question.
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 16:08
CypherVR
"Oh Here is a link to said promo video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv9hgPhh4HU

ahh sweet memories!"

this was a promotional tape i got from Nintendo, oh lawd.
madninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 16:13
madninja
I just beat Mario Galaxy and it was amazing not as amazing as I thought but still amazing. So two questions.

1. What do you guys think about Super Mario Sunshine? I believe it is a good game but not a Mario game and that is why people hate on it.

2. How high has the bar been raised for future platformers? For me, I finished Ratchet and Clank before playing Galaxy and the games aren't even in the same league when it comes to platforming.

Keep up the good work guys.
kwaselow's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 16:26
kwaselow
Galaxy FTMFW. "Watch Your Step" might have the greatest level concept I've ever seen. The game is amazingly fun.
donkeykong's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 16:28
donkeykong
My roommate bought Galaxy on release day and there are five save files on the go right now because everyone wants a piece. He beat it already, I have about 55 stars I think so far. It's such a well made game...

Furthermore, I used to say things like "Daisy's so hot" but as soon as I played Mario Tennis for the gamecube I changed my mind because she's a huge fucking bitch. I wanted to be on her side, brunettes are usually hotter. I'm still undecided on Rosalina. She's obviously the hottest but we've only just met.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 16:35
Wedge
Daisy is absolutely hilarious in the Strikers games. I really can't believe Nintendo lets Namco portray their characters like that, but it's totally awesome.

SMW2 is the best platformer ever, I hope the half of you that didn't play it, will.

And ummm... well shoot I haven't played a proper Mario since 64 (Sunshine a little bit, but yeah). I don't think 64 can ever be downplayed really, not just as a Mario game, but for the entire third dimension of gaming. It was polarizing for sure, but that was my first experience with true 3d gaming. It was awkward at first, but I loved it, and have gotten 120 stars a few times since.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 16:53
Dynamic Sheep
Is Dyson's planetoid the Half-Fire, Half-Nothingness one, or the poisonous gas infested one where the guy is shouting.?
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 17:38
Anthony Burch
Another question:

Since you can use your Mii as the icon for your save game, and since you can spin it using the Wiimote, have you spent more than ten seconds using your Wiimote to spin your Mii's face around and around, all the while yelling "(your name here) IN SPAAAAAAAAAAACE"?

Because I didn't do that.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 17:41
Topher Cantler
Sorry if we didn't get to some of your questions this week, guys, we recorded super-early.

@DynamicSheep- Dyson is in fact the guy standing there with the megaphone. That planet's not poisonous, it is made of pure awesome. Awesome, in its natural state, is green. Many people don't know this.
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 19:23
Fading Star
Isn't green poisonous in a crytalized state(Kryptonite)? That doesn't so awesome when given to Superman.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2007 22:50
Topher Cantler
Superman is not awesome.
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/19/2007 00:04
Fading Star
isn'r

Maybe he can be :).
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/19/2007 00:04
Fading Star
isn't

Maybe he can be :).
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/19/2007 00:11
Fading Star
Maybe he is awesome .
Maybe he can be awesome :D.
Superman isn't that bad man.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/19/2007 01:41
Topher Cantler
I don't dislike the guy, but he still isn't awesome. He's just some dude from another planet where people happen to be stronger than us, etc.

Now Spider-Man, he's awesome.
Quisling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/19/2007 01:57
Quisling
Spider-man is a whiny bitch. At least in the comics, and in the latest movie. I think the IDEA of Spider-man, or how cool Spider-man COULD be is much greater than almost every other super hero. Except Batman. No one beats fucking batman. As long as you ignore the cheap-ass pieces of shit that were movies 2-4, Batman is full of win.

Ok, I'm done ranting about that, now on to Mario. I know I'm just a bit late to the discussion (by about a day) but still. Uhm, I'm here?

Turns out I'm also late for the Galaxy discussion, I'm playing to get all the stars (just got the game last night) and I only have 21. This week will be amazing, I'm having more fun with this game than I can remember having with a game in a really long time.

Anyway, I look forward to the episode. Hope you guys have an awesome week!
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/19/2007 03:35
Knivy
Meh, i'm late u.u.

Oh well, still looking forward to the podcast =)
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/19/2007 07:17
Fading Star
Batman and Spiderman are freaking awesome!

Batman "I don't have to save you."

I am looking forward to watching The Dark Knight. It looks interesting. The Joker!
RurouniQ's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/19/2007 09:51
RurouniQ
I HATE DAISY WITH AN UNBRIDLED PASSION BORNE FROM THE SULFUROUS PITS OF HELL.
Chad Concelmo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/19/2007 13:50
Chad Concelmo
RurouniQ = my new favorite person. :)
RurouniQ's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/19/2007 18:13
RurouniQ
Oof! I've been struck in the side by the Spear of Awesomeness!

Seriously, Daisy ruined herself in Mario Kart: Double Dash. Forever will the obstinate repetitive cry of "HI I'M DAISY" be lodged in the darkest recesses of my brainpan.
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