I never really had an SNES. I've played the Chrono Trigger PS1 port and GBA version of Breath of Fire 2. What would be an awesome Square RPG for me to start off on the SNES?

Well and...

Only because it was the only FF I ever really played. Well other than..


Why did I use so many pictures? I have no idea. I'm bored. :D

best square game that no one played?

and the WORST game they ever put out...

I really liked Vagrant Story, but this may have been because I was at University and it was way better than thinking about studying.

Question: When the retroforcego crew play games like final fantasy, do you play to get through the storyline, or are you interested in finding and destroying all the optional bosses (ruby weapon from FFVII etc) as well??

@sleepingagain

Best square game no one played, in my opinion, would go to the Romancing Saga remake for PS2. I thought it was incredible, granted, if you can't hanlde the anxiety of such a non-linear game you would absolutely hate it.

Worst, I'd have to give to The Bouncer.

I would of loved to played Romancing Saga PS2 but, again, dark specter of PAL attacks.

They released that god awful Unlimited Saga though, my god, it's bad enough they turned it into Dungons and Dragons but the battle system threw out all the rules of SaGa right out the window (what the? Now I can lose more than one LP for being ko'ed?! Attacks reduce LPS?! WHAT MANNOR OF NONSENCE IS THIS?!)

The best games out the Square days are Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy II (IV for you purists), Final Fantasy III (VI), Einhander, and Final Fantasy Tactics. I swear to god, I really don't want to hear about that over rated pile of crap that is Final Fantasy VII (The game that ruined RPGs).

Question Time: What do you think of the recent trend of the Final Fantasy Remakes? With added content and translation and bug "fixes," do you think they are fair to the people who want to play the games they know and love again?

I ask this because my favorite line was taken out of Final Fantasy VI Advance and I was left very disappointed. No more "Call me a treasure hunter or I'll rip your lungs out."

Pi related.

Tobal No.1 was hot sauce as a fighter.

Also . . .

Please . . .

Do what ever you can in your power . . .

To talk about Bushido Blade 1 and 2.

Maybe if someone talks about it, they'll give us more.

And to be honest, I want a new Bushido Blade just a little more than I want a new classic style Mega Man. But just slightly more.

Also Crono Cross was a fine enough game, but it failed to give me what I really loved about Chrono Trigger: Time Travel related gameplay. Cross had nice time travel related story elements, but my dream of a Chrono Trigger sequel involved a dozen time periods and the ability to cause a temporal paradox.

pfft there's quite a lot of Square-games that I have fond memories of...
but the ones that stand out most are of course Final Fantasy-series but also Parasite Eve, Bushido Blade and Vagrant Story (made by the team of FFTactics)!

@Brian Keljore

Hahaha, man, you would probably loathe my very being :p
For me its VII > all numbered, Cross > Trigger. I do enjoy pretty much everything Square has put out though, to varying degrees.

Do I think VII is the BEST? No. It is my favorite, but it is not the "best". I would probably have to award that to XII, for having superior art direction, translation, dialogue, and subtle but powerful character development (though these points are hotly debated.) One need only get past their tendencies to let nostalgia pull the 16-bit wool over their eyes (not directing that at you)

I think I'll be the first to say this, I FUCKIN' HATE CHRONO TRIGGER. I tried to forced myself in liking that game but I just can't. I simply can't. The story get soooooo boring. But hey that's only my opinion.

Go Final fantasy 6 !!

Coolest thing between Square and Enix is their respective easter egg toward each other before they merged.

Question: Why do people love Chrono Trigger when it is such a terrible, terrible game? And why do they hate Cross when it is clearly superior in every way?

Also: Why do people still believe that crap about Square almost going out of business before putting out FF1? Or about them almost going out of business after Spirits Within? They were rolling in cash.

Yeah, I've been wishing for a new Bushido Blade since the PS2 came out and that fucking shitpile of a game "Kengo: Master of Bushido" came out and completely pissed all over what should have been the next great samurai game. The worst part is, Kengo was developed by Lightweight, who also developed Bushido Blade 1 and 2. I've pretty much given up all hope towards a Bushido Blade style fighting game in the future.

Best male character: Setzer (FF VI)
Best female character: Rinoa (FF VIII)
Best couple: Locke and Celes (FF VI)
Best villain: Sephiroth (FF VII)
Best cutscene: The opera house (FF VI)
Best story: Chrono Trigger
Best combat system: Chrono Trigger
Best replay value: Chrono Trigger
Best opening: FF VIII
Best ending: FF VI
Best soundtrack: Kingdom Hearts
Best multiplayer: Secret of Mana (the only other one I can think of is Ergheiz)
Best game of all: Chrono Trigger

I think the early FF games are good, but not great... Aside from RPGs, Square did some good games, but nothing really unforgettable, IMO.

Gen, I seriously hope you are kidding about Square almost being out of business when they released FF1 because people at Square during the time have said numerous amounts of time that they almost went out of business. It is the reason it was named Final Fantasy because they thought it was their final game.

Let's hear some love for Rad Racer! First Square game I ever beat. First game that we ever saw Power G'Loved into submission by Lucas! The NES's answer to OutRun, and a fungame with awesome music (that was selectable at any time) to boot.

Final Fantasy was also the first RPG that I ever beat. I found it to be much more accessible than Dragon Warrior. Back in the day, there were three of us taking turns for play. We couldn't play it unless we were all together. Good times. It took forever, but still one of the most memorable gaming moments for me! And these days I'm playing the retranslated version of Chrono Trigger with my (non-gaming) girlfriend in the same way. Which is just like happiness in a bottle.

Just wanted to say good luck on the episode you guys rock and keep on going for as long as you can!
Love the show and I think that Square is and will always be the creative part of SqaureEnix.

Grez Peter, ow and tofer xbla will rock in about 2 weeks when Ikaruga comes out.

@Phoenix Gamma: That company exists and it's called "Atlus".

Of course you'll be speaking on Final Fantasy games and Chrono Trigger I assume, but would you please mention: Einhander, 3D World Runner, King's Knight, Mario RPG, Bahamut Lagoon, Xenogears, and Blue Wing Blitz? :D

Also, though it has not really anything to do with Square, how awesome is Yoshitaka Amano's artwork for the Final Fantasy series amongst other things? I think it ranks a 6 out of 5 dolphins!

Here is my question for the group is Did you think that SquareSoft made better action-RPGs or better turn-based RPGs and do you think either of these styles were became better or worse due to the merger?

Why is it that Square, despite several dabbles in film/television, continue to fail so hard at it even though one would think that given their history of strong characters and storylines that this would not be the case?

Both their FF5 sequel anime and the FF:Unlimited anime were mediocre at best, with the latter having some of the most embarassing bad animation quality of the last few decades. FF: The Spirits Within, despite having great visual effects work and a good musical score (though by Elliot Goldenthal as opposed to Uematsu), combined horribly boring characters with a plot that needed three times the amount of running time to properly tell. Most recently, you have FF7: Advent Children, a pretty but utterly pathetic sequel to a fantastic game with a stupid plot, nonexistent character development, and a horribly pathetic way of hauling Sephiroth back into the story. This film is best compared to shitty Disney direct-to-video sequels like The Return of Jafar and The Little Mermaid II as opposed to FF7 or even other anime films.

On the other hand, you have tons of missed opportunities. Chrono Trigger, despite being an obvious choice for an anime given its character design, has never been made into an anime other than that weird short floating around the net with the nus having a party. FF4 or FF6, another potentially great anime series, has also never been realized.

@Knives
Fair enough ;)

M favorite Square game is Chrono Trigger and the only non-rpg games I played were the Bushido Blade series on the PS.

What's your favorite non-RPG Squaresoft game?

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