When Dyson called to tell me we were doing an episode on 2D shooters, I had to check my calendar. My birthday isn't until May, and Christmas was weeks ago, so I was a bit confused. What had I done to deserve such a fantastic gift? At that moment, the heavens opened as angels sung the hymn of danmaku and my world was filled with resplendent color and light. Spring had come early. Cherry blossoms danced softly in the breeze, birds began chirping, brooks bubbled and splashed to life, flowers sprung from the ground in all directions. Then he said it was because Omega Five came out this week.
Oh. Well, whatever.
Anyone who listens to our show knows how i feel about shmups, so there exists the possibility that this episode will consist mostly of me yapping about Japan-only Saturn titles and trying to hold back orgasms for an hour. As such, I have been fitted with a high-voltage "correctional collar" to ensure that the other cast members are allowed to speak. While I try to coax Chad into telling me which one of them has the remote for this thing, hit the comments with your questions.
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10:47 AM on 01.13.2008
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i hate tohou games. don't know why but I do. please do not duscuss it, please....onegai?
A question for you guys: What do you think of the shmups from Shin'en (like Nanostray on the DS or Iridion 2 on the GBA)? And are you looking forward to Nanostray 2?
I felt this way about all SHMUPS since Ikaruga. with the exception of omega 5 which I found fun. perhaps I've grown out of touch with the genre
Also, Silver surfer death screen... best facepalm ever?
As a question, could you see any modern franchise re-made as a classic 2D shooter? If so, what titles you would most like to see transformed?
Where do you guys stand on sticks vs. pads? Some games I've found benefit hugely from a stick - Gradius V for example (probably because of the wretched Dualshock D-pad), but others I can quite happily play with either. In fact I did better on Ikaruga with the Gamecube Hori pad than I ever did with the Dreamcast stick.
Also, Space Giraffe for the lose!
Oh yeah a question.... Vertical or Horizontal?
Also, on a side note, how do you convince someone who absolutely hates 2D games into thinking that they're at least passable and that he should try some before he speaks badly of them? He keeps claiming "They were good for their time, but compared to games today they suck." How do I combat such ignorance?
Salamander or Life Force?
OMEGAFIVE!
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGA!
How do you feel about the newer SHMUPs that are coming out nowadays? Omega Five -- great XBLA game, or greatest XBLA game? We do have Star Soldier R, The Monkey King, Shikigami no Shiro 3 and the Ikaruga rerelease on the way, but what the hell happened to all the shooters? We had like four or five coming out every week back when the Super Nintendo was in style! Where did they go, Topher? Where did they go!?
Also, did you like Wartech: Senko no Ronde? It's that kind of SHMUP / fighting game for the 360. I think it's dope as hell.
question: which games would you recommend to people who are just getting into the shmup genre?
oh, and best week ever for topher this week?
sadface.
Two things come to mind when I think Axelay...
1. VERY unique, multi-perspective gameplay
2. MODE 7asm!!!
Anyway, why haven't more people mentionnd Ikaruga yet? It's all about Ikaruga! I know there are more popular shmups, but Ikaruga is still my favourite.
Also, when I got a friend to play it with me on the GC, he actually tried to tap the button to shoot instead of holding it down! It was hilarious, because he didn't know how I was shooting so fast. Poor guy. Annnnyway, I'm going to go play it now, actually.
Going to check the show out, always great to talk about SHMUPS. Not just the popular ones.
there's one macross game in the psone in this style and it's great. i don't rememeber the title: macross, do you remember love perhaps?
a little off topic. i found this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pda2jBcUBWg what you think, in the gameplay sense it´s just starfox command with 16 bit graphics
and in the arcades, what where some of your fav shooters?
I clearly remember the day I went into a tiny arcade in a mall that had the vertical scrolling Macross arcade game. Considering that this was in a suburb of New Orleans, it was an AMAZING event.
Beating Giga Wing with my friend at Chinatown Fair in two credits.
Being one of a few people that played Senko no Ronde at Chinatown Fair. They had the game for less then a month. Nobody liked it and they got rid of it in favor of another 3rd Strike.
Also, i never was ever able to pass the third level of most of these games. You get super powerful, you get hit, then you're back to your pill shooter (yeah i called the start weapon the pill shooter). dealing out a prescription of lame.
Oh, and check out Raptor: Call of the Shadows, it's a good PC shooter in the genre from way back in '94.
Also, Nanostray 2: Yay or Nay?
I've been waiting for this one. And Topher is the Hushgush for the job. Keep the Ikaruga segment down to, like, an hour.
Also I do love rail shooters like Star Fox/Panzer Dragoon if those count. And if they do, Sin and Punishment ftw.
I'm awfully surprised that no one's mentioned Radiant Silvergun yet. Since for whatever reason many people, incorrectly, consider it the greatest of all time.
Anyway, question time. If I was going to be a fanboi for anything out there it would be the bullet-hell style shmups from Cave. Seeing how rare these games are, and their extremely high aftermarket ebay prices, how come we dont see more games made and more publicity made for these games? I mean most people who play games will tell you that they think Ikaruga is awesome. By the way, who do I have to butt-screw to get to play Bangai-O?
Could you guys talk also about Genetos? That game is so awesome! I love playing through the history of shmup design throughout the years! Chain is also pretty cool too. I tend to suck at 'bullet hell' games but somehow I can play this dynamic 'bullet hell' game pretty competently. Making chains in the hundreds is just so fun!
Also, Radiant Silvergun better get ported to XBLA.
http://saigomen.hp.infoseek.co.jp/game.html