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RetroforceGO! recording episode 25 tonight: Chiptunes & a chat with Bit Shifter photo

We receive many emails every week here at RFGO, and most of them are filled with questions. "What is it with Chad and dolphins? Is Chad single? When are you making Chad Concelmo action figures? Can I meet Chad? Can I have him? Can I tie Chad up in my basement?" 

Possibly the most frequently asked non-Chad question, however, is "Hey, what's that song that plays at the end of the show?" Well, dear listeners, I've decided to answer that inquiry once and for all by inviting my friend Bit Shifter to sit down with us tonight. He's the one who created the wonderful song you hear at the end of our show, and one of the finest chiptune artists around. 

Just in time for next weekend's Blip Festival, we'll be discusing the art of 8-bit music, where it came from, how it works, and why we just can't get enough of it. If you're in the New York area next weekend, you can join the Dtoid staff when we see him perform live with a ton of other amazing artists. In the meantime, hit the comments with any questions you have for him or for us, and we'll do our best to answer them!








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Daniel Husky Lingen's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 15:40
Daniel Husky Lingen
You know for some reason that thing that that guy is holding reminds me of the gameboy printer

Although I don't know if it's retro enough for the retro cast, I'd like to know your guy's opinion on the gameboy camera / printer. Personally I think it was the greatest invention known to man, but that's probably because I was young at the time and easily impressed.
Spartacus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 15:41
Spartacus
That song haunts me.
Excremento's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 16:01
Excremento
Here's a good retro question. Did you guys/gal ever have a chance to play Clash at Demonhead? That was a great NES title that nobody seems to remember for some reason.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 16:17
Topher Cantler
@Excremento- I love Clash at Demonhead. The music was annoying as fuck, but it's a really fun game.
Excremento's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 16:24
Excremento
@ Topher

Yup, now that you mentioned it, the music was completely fucking annoying. I really enjoyed the open-ended gameplay it had. It was refreshing to play a game where they didn't have everything on rails.

Ok, how about this one. I'm going to go the arcade for this one. What would you rather play if you had a pocketful of quarters? Either, Discs of Tron or Black Tiger?
rubadub's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 16:27
rubadub
I was thinking about stopping by Blip on Saturday, who all is going?
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 16:28
Darren Nakamura
Hah! To the people who haven't met Chad: what the hell, why haven't you met Chad yet? Losers!

To Chad: make sure to make mention of 8 Bit Weapon. I put the CD I got at the Nerdcore thing into my 360 and played E4 and Geometry Wars with it playing, and it was perfect.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 16:32
Kif
I used to have that song on my laptop. I love it, I sing along to it as well. Bleep, bl-bleep... bleep bl-bleep!
Excremento's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 16:39
Excremento
How about some love tonight for another NES game I just thought of...Archon? Anyone remember that game?
interbutts's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 16:42
interbutts
Why did the movie "Darkman" suck so bad?
Seriously, it was scored by Elfman
and Directed by Sam Raime straight out of "army of Darkness". It had all the makings to be an awesome movie D:.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 16:54
wardrox
beep
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 16:55
Topher Cantler
@Excremento- Black Tiger FTW.

Dtoiders attending Blip Festival this year, as far as I know, will be:

Myself, Analog Pidgin, Niero and Colette, .tiff, Phist, and Charlie Suh. There are more, but I'm not sure who's definitely in or out.
Crackhippo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 17:16
Crackhippo
man, i wish canada got some chiptune action :(
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 17:32
A New Challenger
I've done a few (simple) chiptunes on my Game Boy Camera myself. The DJ Mode interface is simple but allows for some surprising variety if you mess with it. If I figure out a good way to post them I will.

Also, here's a chiptunes question: Is there a school of chiptune artists that limits the number/type of channels they use in compositions to the channels used by games on the original hardware? You know, four channels plus noise or whatever for NES-based tunes, etc. I truly love that chiptunes are being pushed in wonderful new directions, but personally I ascribe special badassery recognition to those who can come up with stuff as exciting as, oh, Mega Man 2's soundtrack under the same (hardware) limitations.

Also, check out www.2A03.org for some NES chiptune loving.

Yay, chiptunes!
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 17:49
KMCC
I know they are "newer" games, but does anyone else LOVE the music in the Phoenix Wright games? Simple, but awesome!
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 17:55
A New Challenger
@KMCX:

Yes! The sound design in general and animation in Phoenix Wright are fantastic.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 18:04
Wedge
I missed a concert of his at Ground Kontrol a couple years back because I was too young to get in back then =<
Quisling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 18:05
Quisling
Is it too early to talk about the song that plays at the end of portal? Too many spoilers? I know it isn't necessarily chiptune, but it is a fantastic example of newer game music that is done extremely well.

Heart to all of you, if I had a place to stay that was cheap as free I'd probably pay the gas to drive over to NY, but I probably won't be able to make it this year. Have a blast!
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 18:26
Knivy
Me and my friends once had a party where we only played chiptune music, it was great, kinda like a rave.

@Chad
Did you manage to beat your cousins at anything?
Sabreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 18:34
Sabreman
I'm hoping to hear much love for the C64 and the SID chip. I know in the US it was mainly about the NES, and probably some home computers I've never heard of, but the SID brightened up countless games (and even made some duffers worth loading) here in Blighty.
Excremento's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 18:58
Excremento
I think it would be awesome if you could talk a little about Kraftwerk and how they were essentially the first group to make music like this. I mean, come on listen to "Taschenrechner" (Pocket Calculator) off of the album Computerwelt (Computer World). That was a great concept album.
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 18:58
trydizon
I've mentioned this before; a big thank you to Topher for getting me addicted to Anamanaguchi, Bit Shifter, Nullsleep, Rushjet1, and Tugboat. Chiptune artists FTW.

If we ever hang out, I'm buying you 4 pints of Guinness, a bee costume, and a bag of Skittles.
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 18:58
trydizon
Question time:
1. How do you feel about mainstream artists working with Chiptune and not mentioning anything or giving any recognition to the Chiptune subculture?

2. [A very cliché question] What was your most influential game or piece of Chiptune?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 19:03
Sharpless
Face sex: for or against?
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 20:05
KMCC
@trydizon

Like Timbaland did? What a dick.
droobies's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 20:16
droobies
Wow, someone else besides Topher and Dyson that knows about Clash at Demonhead! Y'know, I sorta liked the music for that game. Sure, it was VERY repetitive, but it's still one of the few NES games (outside of Mario, Zelda, or Metroid) that I can still recall all the music to and likely hum on command. When I was a little kid, I actually hand drew the road map in that game and wrote little notes on where stuff was.
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 20:16
trydizon
@KMCC:
Exactly. He is quite the Summa.

Dang.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 20:47
Samit Sarkar
Well, since I go to school in Manhattan, I’ll almost certainly be at the Blip Festival on at least one of the days (I have a big project due on Friday, among tons of other work and parties, etc.)...but the opportunity to meet more Dtoiders is one that I can’t let go by. Oh yeah, I’m sure the music’s gonna rock, too. Hope to see you guys there!
Buddha's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 21:25
Buddha
dammit no love for orlando!?
Colette Bennett's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 22:16
Colette Bennett
Jesus, I love Clash At Demonhead :)
Excremento's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 22:18
Excremento
YAY!!! I brought up a good game!!!
Orionsaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 22:50
Orionsaint
That song makes no sense. I mean who is this synthetic type a house a psychedelic funk it type a alpha beta?
Excremento's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 22:53
Excremento
I just started listening to the music from Super Castlevania IV right now, and the quality is simply stunning. The transition from Castlevania III to Super Castlevania IV is like night and day. Wasn't that a release title for the SNES? Holy crap, if so then the SNES must have a hell of a sound chip!
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/26/2007 02:21
A New Challenger
Comparisons with the Genesis show that the SNES does indeed have a hell of a sound chip. The music in Super Castlevania IV is very moody, and it was one of the early titles for the SNES.
Dastardly007's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/26/2007 05:24
Dastardly007
I agree with Sabreman

Can we get a mention for the C64 and its awesome SID chip? Some of the best 8bit music of all time is featured in C64 games.

Personal fave: Phantom of the Asteroid by Rob Hubbard

Don't forget us over the pond!

:jumps up and waves arms frantically:
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/26/2007 05:47
Fading Star
Good luck with the show guys. Cool suggestions guys. SCIV, Clash At Demonhead, etc.
entrager's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/26/2007 09:24
entrager
It's too late to work it into the show, but I hope you guys give some love to Mr. Pacman. They are a Denver band, making some amazing music using a Commodore64. I'm lucky enough to be able to see them live from time to time, and they always put on a good show.
Analog Pidgin's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/26/2007 12:31
Analog Pidgin
@Crackhippo -- This show is happening in Montreal right before Blip!
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