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RetroforceGO! episode 93: Final Fantasy IV (and vaginas!) photo

Happy Friday, listeners. There was a bit of trouble getting the show uploaded this week, but thanks to the vigilance of Geraldo Beedog, all has turned out well. Thank you, sir. This week we were joined by one of our very favorite listeners, Naia-the-gamer, as we discussed Final Fantasy IV. That's Final Fantasy II if you played it on the SNES, because Square's favorite thing to do is confuse us with its haphazard numbering protocol.

Subject matter aside, this week's episode is special because it features lots of girls. You won't find that over at Podtoid. No sir. I'm talking about vaginas, folks -- as I often like to do -- and we're surrounded by 'em this week. So many in fact, that today's header image is crafted by our own Stella Wong, circa 1992. Lovely, isn't it? This week's girly highlights include:

  • Vaginas everywhere!
  • The Dragoon jump. 'Nuff said.
  • Spoilers. We've got 'em. 
  • A big party is a happy party.
  • Chad demands ice cream.
You can check out the new episode right here, or subscribe to us on iTunes to get the show as early as possible. That is, unless you're some kind of cheauvanist pig who doesn't like girls.







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dusanvf's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 16:51
dusanvf
I can't download it, the URL says No posts!.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 16:56
PappaDukes
How can ya'll beat the first episode in 5 hours? It took me almost 12 hours with all the grinding. Now, Rydia's tale on the other hand took me just over 5 hours, and that was even with my manic grinding. That was disappointing.
CarlCastello's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 16:57
CarlCastello
Topher has single-handedly proven that we're all some kind of chauvinistic pig who don't like girls.
JTHomeslice's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:03
JTHomeslice
You had me at vaginas.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:05
Topher Cantler
Sorry Doomsan, fixed now.
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:08
Harris Hatsworth
I hereby title that picture "Tellah's Harem". Ignore the fact that there is another man and children in it.
TVs Mr Neil's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:17
TVs Mr Neil
I know you guys only did it as an aside, but one of my pet peeves with this game is that everybody on the internet, particularly on certain OTHER podcasts (cough*1Up*cough) seem to think that, unless we clarify that Final Fantasy IV was once released as Final Fantasy II eighteen years ago, people across the nation will be utterly confused and incapable of discerning which game you're talking about.

Square's done a magnificent job of re-introducing the correct numbering sequence. Anyone who needs to know which games is which already knows. It's been eighteen years, and the game has been re-released three times since then. The only people who don't know are people who don't play Final Fantasy.

If anything, we should be making the clarification whenever we talk about the Super Nintendo versions, because those are the ones that are wrong. Otherwise, let's just use the titles for the games with which they are intended to correspond and not use parenthetical names for games that already have the correct title. Let's just say Final Fantasy II when we mean the one with Firion, and Final Fantasy IV when we mean the one with Cecil.

And the same rule should apply to Final Fantasy III and VI.

I'm going to be really annoyed in twenty years, after this game has been re-released a half dozen more times, if we're still having to clarify the titles based on the Super Nintendo versions.
Darkanubis87's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:26
Darkanubis87
kinda sad i couldn't listen to it at work since it wasn't posted over night. BUT i can't complain cause hey, its fucking RFGO. I can listen to it while i chill on my days of playing my new relax games Magic:TG and Puzzle Quest from XBLA. YAY!
dusanvf's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:39
dusanvf
Topher Cantler, Thanks!
moggle's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:41
moggle
@TVs Mr Neil

Keep preaching the good word, brother.

I, too, have been slightly irritated that many bloggers/reviewers think only they have a real grasp that the numbering system was narfed two decades ago and it's up to them to make sure we plebeians understand it.
Stella Wong's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:47
Stella Wong
@Harris Hatsworth i loled thank you for that comment it totally made my century
TJF588's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:49
TJF588
Well, it IS "Retro"forceGO!, so it fits well enough, don' it?
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:55
vexed alex
Yay Naia!
Zero Atma's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 17:59
Zero Atma
PappaDukes, you've never seen Naia play FF4 (Or the After Years I suppose), she doesn't NEED to grind in them!
Daniel Carneiro's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 18:00
Daniel Carneiro
The iTunes version gets cut off at 1:30:44 :(
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 18:07
linuxguy
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
TJF588's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 18:19
TJF588
*gets to name banter*
I actually wholly associate the numbers (visually as the Roman numerals) with their game. Even just the sound of the numbers 'match' to the games to me. Heck, I usually just forego "FINAL FANTASY" or "Eff Eff". Also, it took a bit to get used to saying "SehSihl" (still goin' "Reedeeah" over something closer to "Riddeeah"), though just a weekish ago I said that around my folks and they're all like "'Seesihl'?". *sigh*
TJF588's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 18:47
TJF588
http://www.netjak.com/review.php/370
Not sure if it's this one that goes into it most, but it's another crap-happened-but-games-helped story.

Prolly like Rydia most, but I've sided onto Porom (mostly on the GFAQs boards). As for Baigan (romaji shows it's "beigan", so it's like "bacon"), playing FFIV ADVANCE kinda negates that surprise, since they don't have character portraits. *goes back to listening; on the female roles thing (cue PaladinCecil's defense of Rosa)*
AlienGuy18's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 18:55
AlienGuy18
Yep, the iTunes file is borked.

Geraldo best step up and use his JOURNALISM to fix this grave error.
Daniel Carneiro's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 18:57
Daniel Carneiro
Ok... W T F? My iTunes version stops at 1:30:44 with chad saying "...this girl lost her mother to fire" and in the one from libsyn that exact sentence is at 1:03:03 but the show goes on till 1:30:44 o_O I'm confused...
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 19:09
Kyle MacGregor
Same, n0brein the Itunes cuts out at 1 hour 30 minutes in. Something went awry in the making of this podcast.
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 19:11
Dyson
It says II and III respectively on the carts that I own. That I bought in America. Back before most gamers my age even knew that the numbers were wrong. Technically, I have never played FF IV or VI, since I have never re-bought the ones that have been re-released, and the only time I ever play these games are in their original US SNES form.

So don't front like it's some big deal, because 80% of the US gaming public didn't even know that the numbers were off until they announced that VII would resume the correct numbering pattern. Saying FF II for the SNES is just as valid a statement as saying FF IV for the Super Famicom.
Technophile's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 19:51
Technophile
So I listened to the whole episode and loved every second of it. The closing music started to play and I thought to myself "Oh WTF, how did they not mention the damn Spoon? That's my favorite thing ever"

As the closing music progressed, it was then my friends, that Mr Topher Cantler saved the day.

Also Naia, I will gush at you when I see you tonight about how amazing you were. :D
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 20:12
Topher Cantler
You mean... other people besides bloggers might know about the top-secret numbering system?? We'll be out of a job!!

Muh'fuckin' jokes, ppl. Jokes. Jaaaaayzus.
TheChemist's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 20:14
TheChemist
You're fucking right Dyson. It's II and III forever!
Technophile's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 20:18
Technophile
Just delete it and redownload to fix the cutoff. Happened to me and that fixed it.
flamecondor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/19/2009 23:47
flamecondor
Want to listen, but am still playing through FFIV on DS and don't want to be spoiled, oh noes, dare I for the first time ever miss out on an episode of RFGO OH NOEZ!!!!!

So yeah just wondering how spoilerific the ep is.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2009 01:08
PappaDukes
@zero atma - haha, I hear ya. However, I could have gotten through the episodes as quick as the quickest. I just can't do that and keep a true RPGer conscience :P

Final Fantasy, for me, is all about grinding. I remember playing Final Fantasy III (using the US naming convention) on the SNES as a wee lad, and leveling up my characters, getting them to level max level of 99 for hours fighting those goddamn dinosaurs over and over and over again.
CaptainCarnage's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2009 01:19
CaptainCarnage
Hey, I'm cool with vjj
Stella Wong's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2009 01:39
Stella Wong
@flamecondor- I know I spoiled it like crazy. My one line can ruin the game for you.
odber's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2009 07:19
odber
Ungh, I totally forgot the Hyadain video of Golbez and the four fiends
The Nesta's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2009 10:48
The Nesta
Great episode, my second favorite so far (really, really loved that Earthbound one). Naia was a great guest. I just wish Topher wasn't MIA for most of the discussion. Ah well.

I'm actually going to be playing through FFIV Advance soon, since I missed it when it first came out. Yes, I love the DS version and really need to get around to beating that a couple more times, but I want to do all the bonus stuff in the GBA one too. Anyways, this was a great way to get me pumped for playing it again.
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2009 11:08
Xhumation
I'm buying this game because of Retroforce. thanks guys
flamecondor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2009 11:52
flamecondor
@Aiya, oh well guess I'll have to try and finish the game over the weekend and then listen, time for some serious power gaming me thinks *key the montage music*
Special K's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2009 13:33
Special K
can anyone tell me what the music is at the beginning of the retroforce podcasts, i must listen to it at work to keep me happy!
LogicalCooper's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2009 14:46
LogicalCooper
Am I the only one who got the Pink Tail tail from the puffs near the end of the game? Yet another FF game where I maxxed out the time @ 99:59.
losochuntae45's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2011 17:48
losochuntae45
Say! Can't you imagine him demanding his divine Ginevra, buy alesse
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