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RetroforceGO!: Episode 8: I miss arcades photo

Well, things are back to normal here at RFGO! (whatever that means). Colette is back on the show -- she was healing from a brutal wolf attack last week -- and rejoins the rest of us as we take a walk down memory lane. Today's episode is pure nostalgia, folks, and should be some informative listening for those of you wondering why we love our retro so much. Arcades people, it was all about arcades.

Random highlights!

  • I think that this is the third "BEST WEEK EVAR!" from Chizzo
  •  Hey, did somebody want to hear about Balloon Fight?
  • Soon, the Wii shall be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine.
  • Barcade is Toph's new heaven on earth, suicide note now unecessary
  • Reader questions!
  • The Reverend wants you dead, really
  • Chizzo does an arcade top ten, disses my beloved Street Fighter II
  • Stop putting your gum in the goddamn memory slots!
  • I remember there being an announcement of some importance?
Of course, none of this makes any sense, but it soon will after you listen to the show. To do that,you can head over to our podcasting page or just steal our RSS feed. Try dropping by our Myspace page and participating in the BEE SUIT!! picture barrage. Oh, did I mention that we're on iTunes?







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Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 16:05
Joe Burling
Colette, what is this wolf's name? <beats fist against hand>
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 16:41
Kif
Have any of you checked out the Eternal Sonata demo? I heard it's in the Xbox Official Magazine exclusively (Or Japanese Marketplace if you want the Japanese version).

Also if you Tayroll me I will murder you in the face.
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 16:44
Dyson
I checked it out briefly at E3, but haven't gotten around to the full demo yet. It looked, though, from what I played.
Bethla Garrison's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 16:50
Bethla Garrison
There's a Barcade in LA, but it's a joke, it's only open like one day a week, and only at night.

In Portland, however - there's a great bar/arcade, opens early, open seven days a week (I think?). I think it was called "Ground Control," totally worth looking up if you're ever in the area.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 16:53
Kif
I'm still wondering when I can get my hands on the English demo since I don't think it's out here in the UK. Kinda sucks, I really want to try out the battle system. It's weird, since I'm not into the whole anime style thing either.
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 16:55
trydizon
forget "chocolate rain", "demons on the dance floor" is tits.
phamtq's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 16:58
phamtq
Yep. Ground Kontrol is awesome. They're working on the MAX line which means I can hop on the light rail and go directly to ground control.

Check out their website. It's got some pictures of some pretty famous gaming people. And ?uestlove was there. 'Nuff said.

http://www.groundkontrol.com/
Toneman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 17:02
Toneman
Dude, GroundKontrol is so much win.
ChrisFurniss's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 17:10
ChrisFurniss
YOU'RE THE BEST


AROUUUUUUUND
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 17:14
trydizon
ah dyson,
beat em' up = final fight, tmnt, double dragon, etc.
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 17:33
Dyson
I was wondering why you mentioned Konami! I thought you meant fighters, and couldn't recall there being any 2D ones from Konami.

I was confuzed, but the answer is the X-men game seen here
phamtq's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 18:03
phamtq
I disagree with them when they talked about players being cheap during street fighter 2. I used to think that too but once you learn to really play then it doesn't matter what the other person does.

Ryu throwing too many fireballs? Have Zangief spin towards him and pile drive him.
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 18:31
Dyson
I know a few SF2 national champions that might disagree with you.
Bethla Garrison's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 18:44
Bethla Garrison
All of the SF series are unbalanced. Capcom says that they purposely throw off the balance a little in order to cater to the sorts of players who want a challenge (which may or may not be bullshit).

But, I mean, there are always ways to be cheap. In any game. They fall into two categories.

A: Cheapness/tricks that work at any level of play

B: Cheapness/tricks that people won't blink at if you're at a competitive level of play

When it comes to type A, the cheapness usually takes some level of skill to pull off properly (Yen, Ken, Chun in SF3, for example). And even then, I don't really think it's cheap. I don't think that Chun's cr. MK into SA2 is cheap in SF3, for the sole reason that anyone can choose to play Chun.

It's a debate that's always raging on fighting game forums.. whether people should stop whoring out the top tiers or not. I think it really depends on why you play the game, and why you play that character. If you play to win, and that top tier character just "fits," then have at it.

I'm happy playing my mid-low tier characters and getting my ass kicked.
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2007 22:52
Hamza CTZ Aziz
HALO HALO HALO
Papapishu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/20/2007 00:42
Papapishu
I will agree with every fiber of my body that Barcade is the greatest single creation that man ever did make. Better than penicillin, even.

It's on my top five list of places to get hammered next to hammered in New York.(It's up there with Mcswirlies with their 2 dollar draft mugs of microbrewed goodness and Kenka's with it's 1.50 draft Sappro and grilled Japanese bull penis).
It doesn't hurt that I live four stops or ten minutes on bike away.

If you need to go there (and you DO), don't go on the weekend if you can avoid it; it gets so loud and crowded you can't even talk or play Ghosts 'n Goblins.

It should also be mentioned that they have REALLY good microbrew on tap. Like, 20, brands like Rogue and Dogfish Head. And one on cask, if I recall. Oh, and all the games are a quarter, include the Standup, two-screen Punchout game.

OH, and Barcade also made a cameo in the first episode of College Humor's Street Fighter series. Zangief worked as a janitor there.

God...now I really want to go to Barcade. Anyone feel like joining me?
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/20/2007 03:07
Dyson
Ah, the cheapness discussion. I agree with both points, but I think that Bethla makes the most well rounded argument.

There are different levels, or types, of cheapness.

For example, in the Alpha series you can play as Guy and continuously use his somersault-throw move on the other opponent, while this could be considered a cheap move; it's not. If you're playing somebody who isn't at the same skill level as you, the move is defendable, but if you're playing a rookie it may appear cheap.

In contrast, if you're playing somebody at an equal skill level and they pull the whole: fire ball, fire ball, fire ball, attack, kind of shit on you; then that is cheap -- because they're going for the easy, skill-less, win.

Skill level most certainly factors into whether or not certain moves or play styles can be considered cheap, but there is a definite difference between being good, or being a fucker.

Think about it like this: everyone hates a camper, right? And even though camping is allowed in the game, it is still considered poor sportsmanship.
Tristero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/20/2007 08:22
Tristero
The Taito Legends collection has a good handful of the games you guys mentioned, Bubble Bobble, Operation Wolf, and a lot of other buried gems I had never tried but instantly fell in love with. There are cool interviews with some of the developers on the collection also. Highly recommended.

Oh and forget the Rainbow Room . . . Short Stop in Silver Lake has one of those sit down Ms. Pacman tables, and you don't need to get in a special upstairs room to play it either.

Nickel Nickel in Long Beach sounds like heaven. I seriously need some L.A. nerd pals. Chad and Colette, you gotta holla if you head out there.

I'm still trying to track down Nintendo's Arm Wrestling. I won't die happy until I rip that fucker's mask off once and for all.

dgenerate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/20/2007 09:34
dgenerate
You mentioned shooters and just had to make a shout out to Ikaruga. I need to find a copy, STAT.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/20/2007 10:31
Jim Sterling
I'm so glad someone else sucks as much at Bomberman as me. I can't beat the computer either. It's depressing.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/20/2007 12:44
Knivy
I used to go to an arcade called Wunderland a lot in the recent but not THAT recent past, you paid like $2.50 to enter, but the games used nickels instead of quarters and there were a lot of old arcade games (rampage, pacman, the avengers, paperboy and others) that were in freeplay mode, it was great, sadly the place all of a sudden got turned into the offices of some church =(.

Oh, and you could go again within 3 days without paying entrance.
phamtq's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/20/2007 13:27
phamtq
@ Dyson

But what can be considered skill? I played someone and didn't do any special moves. He considered it cheap because their dragon punch/fireballs required skill to use. I mean, does skill mean flashy moves and finishers?

As for the camping situation, since I haven't played FPS in a long time, is there a counter to this action? You got things like alpha counters, parrying, or even just moving out of the way as a counter.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2007 11:24
Knivy
@phamtq

Well the counter of camping i think would be throwing a nade or something explosive, the biggest advantage you get against someone who's camping is that you know exactly their position.
Amethystine's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2007 12:11
Amethystine
I just realized something.. you say that arcades are disappearing, and that theatres are as well. But even though I live in a slightly less populous area in the east of Canada, there's like 5 theatres around, almost all of which still have a decent arcade area in the lobby. Empire Theatres FTW! http://www.empiretheatres.com/spotlight/spotlight_thezone.asp
Amethystine's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2007 12:29
Amethystine
Also, we have your number one, a Ms Pac-man cabinet in my place of work, a family restaurant/sports bar place. But not the flat, tabletop kind.
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