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RetroforceGO! Episode 38: Phantasy Star photo

Hi everybody, are you doing well? Yes? That's fantastic. We, on the other hand, have been having quite the week. From GDC, to Wondercon, to Chad deciding to "put babies" in certain female community members (and .tiff), it's been quite exhausting overall. That's why you may have noticed that this week's RFGO! is being posted super late in the evening. The truth to the matter is we were just too tuckered out to get it done on Sunday evening.

We did, however, not want to let too much time pass before recording, and getting our loyal fans the retro goodness they deserve. So, like the Internet ninjas that we are, we recorded and edited tonight so that you all could hear about the wonder that is Phantasy Star asap. Now, I know I normally rock out the show highlights in every post, but I'm a little on tired side at the moment, so all your getting is one.

Highlight!

  • You are all freaking awesome

Enjoy the show, ladies and gentlemen. We did everything that we could to get it to you in a timely fashion, but if our tardiness ruined your Monday, sorry. I assure you that we did the best we could this week, and that you'll all be happy when you hear the latest cast. Also, Pizza Rolls.


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Necros's Avatar
Necros at 02/26/2008 03:04
Recorded and edited in one night? You guys continue to amaze me in new ways.
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naia-the-gamer at 02/26/2008 03:05
About time this got posted! (J/K I love you guys).

It's too late to listen to it now, but I will tomorrow. I must say I felt like something was missing from my monday.
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Samit Sarkar at 02/26/2008 03:07
Wow, that’s impressive. Well done, gang! And pizza rolls rock! iTunes-ing now...
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BlackSunEmpire at 02/26/2008 03:07
Woohoo, I look forward to this podcast all weekend
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topgeargorilla at 02/26/2008 03:09
dude, I saw you and your roommate on a 1up blog.

Shit, all the Dtoid editors are famous all over the gameing press!
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Dexter345 at 02/26/2008 03:12
Hmm. It's 1:15 now... do I listen to it tonight, or just save it for tomorrow?

Hell, I'll be up for at least another hour writing this research proposal, so I guess this can't hurt (aside from it inevitably slowing me down, but who cares about that?).
Knives's Avatar
Knives at 02/26/2008 03:16
Been waiting all day for this <3 , the lack of highlights will make everything a surprise =)
Dyson's Avatar
Dyson at 02/26/2008 03:24
Ha ha ha! You mean David Ellis' blog, right? Yeah, we all palled around that day. Fun day was fun.
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Topher Cantler at 02/26/2008 03:33
GAWD, it's about feckin' time. I need something to listen to on the way to work. This is my favorite podcast.
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Dexter345 at 02/26/2008 03:41
Poor Chad! He sounds worse than he did on Friday/Saturday. Stranded in an airport for six hours? He should have driven home with us*!

*Actually probably not; we didn't get back to L.A. until like 9:30 PM.
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Dyson at 02/26/2008 03:51
I know dude. I feel somewhat bad for having the party knowing that it made Chad more sick :(

But you guys are still the pimps of the party!
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LethalHairdo at 02/26/2008 03:56
Usually RFGO makes my Monday nights awesome...there was a void.

Instead I got the treat of it making my TUESDAY MORNING awesome...the void was filled.
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ceark at 02/26/2008 04:09
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG I can't wait to listen to this tomorrow. I love Phantasy Star (except Universe. they really f'ed up with that one)
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Orionsaint at 02/26/2008 04:10
Thanks!

on a side note Will Arnett talked about COD4 on Conan tonight. It was hilarious. I'm sure it'll make all the blog sites. Including this one, but you heard it here first.

Will Arnett talked about COD4 on Conan
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KamikazeTutor at 02/26/2008 04:13
Dangit! The damn site is being broken to me! Can't download! Can't even open the page...
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Miguelcar808 at 02/26/2008 05:11
It is so rare to see some SEGA love coming from the states.
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RurouniQ at 02/26/2008 05:40
Colette, I believe these are relevant to your interests...
Phantasy Star Adventure translation...
Phantasy Star Gaiden translation...
Enjoy!
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MatCD at 02/26/2008 07:18
oh man thank god, i was about to go insane like a crack whore 'cause i wasn't getting my fix
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HarassmentPanda at 02/26/2008 07:20
Downloading now, can't wait to check it out. Thanks for working so hard to get it out as soon as you could.
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ScottyG at 02/26/2008 08:44
My trapper keeper (which I had to looked up because we just called them a friggen' binder! :p) as a kid was a surfer with a shark behind him, looking all mean and menacing and about to surf right out of it onto my desk. It was awesome. ^_^
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Colette Bennett at 02/26/2008 08:56
@RurouniQ: Marry me.
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ScottyG at 02/26/2008 08:57
Since he's sick shouldn't Chad's HP in the graphic there be really low? :p
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Guagloves at 02/26/2008 09:10
poor Chad. Get some sleep and have some juice!
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kevinski at 02/26/2008 09:43
Regarding Nei and Neifirst, I believe that Nei came to be as a result of her originally being part of Neifirst and not agreeing with Neifirst's ways. (Did that make sense?) Nei split from Neifirst somehow, but is still a part of her. While I've never gotten that far into the game, I've heard that you CAN defeat Neifirst, but Nei will die, anyway, since neither one of them can sustain life without the other still being alive. Of course, a more likely scenario is that Neifirst wins, still resulting in the death of both characters.

By the way, while Neifirst's faster leveling may sound like it's Sega's way of compensating you up until she dies, honestly, it makes sense within the context of the story, as Nei develops much more quickly than a typical person.
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kevinski at 02/26/2008 09:46
And what's the deal with the 'gaiden' pronunciation? I used to say 'guy-den' when I was younger, but isn't it actually supposed to be 'gay-den'?
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Tubatic at 02/26/2008 09:49
Man, looking back, one gets a good sense of how much your parents really loved you: $80 for all these awesome RPGs? We had like all of them. Every Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, every Phantasy Star, Sega CD and Lunar, Shining Force too. Wow . . .

I need to call my dad . . .
RurouniQ's Avatar
RurouniQ at 02/26/2008 10:02
@Colette: Tempting, but I think my fiancee would have something to say about that. :)

@kevinski: The Japanese pronunciation is "guy-den", and since I'm a purist that means it's pronounced "guy-den".
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kevinski at 02/26/2008 10:09
@RurouniQ

Ah, thanks for clarifying.

By the way, regarding the MMORPG term, not all online RPG's are MMO, as you don't interact with a large number of other players during actual game play. WoW, for instance, is MMO, whereas PSO (to the best of my knowledge, seeing as how you only have three other people with you at once during game play) isn't MMO.
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Irvine_frost at 02/26/2008 12:04
why colette doesn't have magic points in the picture, i think she's pretty magical to me.
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droobies at 02/26/2008 12:05
Great show guys, nice to hear you all talk about games I'm currently replaying from back in the day. Thanks to Dyson for getting me back into Phantasy Star in the first place. I was grinding the hell out of the 2nd dungeon where you rescue the daughter of that dude that blocks the tunnel and got WTFPWNED by a couple of cloud looking things called Blasters after completely whipping ass on all the rest of the critters scattered about. Just goes to show how unforgiving this game can be at times.

If you're not super hip to oldschool JRPGs, I'd recommend starting with PS4, as it seems to be the easiest to get into and the most menu-friendly of them all. You also don't have to grind your ass off for quite awhile in that one. PS2 is good, but is as unforgiving as an Alaskan crab boat captain. Be prepared to spend HOURS grinding before you head into each dungeon.

Dyson, I wish I could have been on to help fill in the gaps on the online iterations of Phantasy Star. I played a bit of PSO and a lot of PSU. I'm not sure why I played them, mind you, but they're about the furthest thing from a true MMO. They're more like Diablo with a MMO-esque meeting system. Fairly mindless Hack'n'slash fare for the most part, and definitely not worth the monthy fees associated with them. However, PSU did come with a single player campaign, but it certainly wasn't anything on par with PS1, PS2, or PS4.

I look forward to hearing Toph scream "Best Week Ever!" next week.
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Colette Bennett at 02/26/2008 12:50
@Irvine ^____^
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ceark at 02/26/2008 14:42
poor chad T_T

but on the side note, "it's the best week ever!!!! cough cough cough" that was such great timing.
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Knives at 02/26/2008 14:58
@Chad
I guess it rained over there also? Weekend California rain apparently made me sick also u.u.

@Colette
Aerith was never in my party, Tifa+Cloud+Catsith,Yuffie or Barret. ( I like cats >.>)

@Irvine
Colette wasted all her MP to bring chad back to life
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MissHinasaki at 02/26/2008 15:02
I love you guys so much. You are all so amazing!
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KamikazeTutor at 02/26/2008 15:06
I didn't have such bad experience with Phantasy Star Online. What I really hated was when I died, I would lose my weapon and my mesetas and if someone was next to it, they would pick it up even if not on purpose.

This once happened to me and the guy told me to wait, went away and then return with more cash, obviously he was hacking but at least he was cool.

Also, the game had a real time translation, not just key phrases. Of course, you needed to type everything in correct english.

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SourceDecay at 02/26/2008 15:48
Both Shining in the Darkness and Phantasy Star 2 are responsible for my obsession with JRPGs. An incurable affliction, but an affliction I couldn't imagine being without. Great stuff guys, as usual.

Also, SEGA 4 LYFE *gang sign*
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ceark at 02/26/2008 16:45
oh man. this has made my tuesday much better, which is better then making my monday better this week since I called in sick monday (I caught something in SF >.>)
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Tactix at 02/26/2008 16:47
Great show guys....Sad to hear about the death of Chad :(. Hope he feels better!

I never played the original Phantasy Stars, but I did play Phantasy Star Online on the Gamecube, both the dungeon crawling Ep 1&2 and the Card game Ep 3. What Colette said was COMPLETELY true...it was so much bigger in Japan, so that the majority of people playing were Japanese. Luckily I took a semester of Japanese, so I understood a little of what was being said. My roommate used to stay up at night cause thats when the Japanese were playing, which meant he could get more parties going.

More than anything, though, I remember the game being COMPLETELY BROKEN due to a duping glitch. I dont know if all versions had this, but the Gamecube let you duplicate any item in the game...one of the first moments I got online, another online player gave me an uber powerful weapon that was a very rare drop.

Anyway, it was an ok game, but not worth the money I put into it (monthly fees, keyboard etc.)...at least it enabled me to use the broadband adapter!
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The GHost at 02/26/2008 17:37
I didn't even listen to the second half of the show. Turned it off as soon as I heard that Chad wasn't in it. :(((((

Kidding!

Great show as always guys. I'm tempted to go back and check out the original PS games, but the amount of grinding sounds a little daunting. Don't get me wrong, I've played lots of old school RPGs, and I'm no stranger to difficult games, but for me having to grind every step of the way doesn't make a game difficult so much as tedious. Although I will admit that having lopsided battles does force you to think a lot more, which I absolutely love.

For the record: Lunar: Silver Star Story is the perfect difficulty. It will kick your ass if you aren't ready for it but you don't have to grind like crazy.

And who am I kidding? I just finished my last midterm today. PS 2, here I come!
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naia-the-gamer at 02/26/2008 21:08
Listen to Droobies. If you're not super hardcore with old JRPG's I would start with Phantasy Star IV. It's more forgiving.

I'm not expecting a Phantasy Star V, I was just throwing it out there, but I know better :P

Thank you guys for reminding me how much I LOVED LOVED LOVED Phantasy Star back in the day. I will be getting some "not" emulators to playing the spin offs and text adventures.

For future reference I RSS a site called ROMHacking.net:

http://www.romhacking.net/ (duh) which is where I get news of sites translating old games. Thats where I got my translation patches for the PS games and is a good central place to look up translation sites for old "not" ROMS that never came out here.

Also screw all you haters for hating PSIII (I mean that in the nicest way). Yes Phantasy Star IV is my favorite and is one of my all time favorite games, but III had some nice charm to it and I actually liked the replay value.

Finally don't forget that the Sega Genesis collection also came out for the PSP and has PSIV. I bought that thing just for the Phantasy Star games. Although I really want to cheat my way through them again (I've already beat them the normal way). If anyone has any cheats for the PSP version (not Genesis not GBA) I would love a link.
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Origim at 02/26/2008 22:05
Great show guys, I'm with you on the MMO thing. It would be a blast with a crew from here otherwise I'll pass on MMO's.
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madninja at 02/26/2008 23:49
Good show but PSO you didn't have to play online. I mostly played offline but it was still awesome when I was online (I thought the game was amazing but maybe that is just me). I thought you guys did the game justice (epically Colette).
Phantasy Star still awesome!!! (now what about next show, Dragon Quest maybe because this week was Phantasy Star)
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pierce at 02/27/2008 20:51
I've never played a Phantasy Star before, but now, I might just have to go and get that Phantasy Star Collection on GBA now. I hate/love you guys for making me spend money.

@Madninja:

Hell yes on a Dragon Quest show!

Keep up the great work guys, I love listening to your podcast when I'm at work.
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Zero Atma at 02/27/2008 23:54
First off, that pinata will ROCK!

I'm just starting with Phantasy Star II myself, Naia has turned me on to it. So far, it's shaping up nicely, especially considering it's a retro game. I'm a little sad I missed out on it when I was younger, because I had the patience to seriously level grind then. I'd set FFVII in the Mode 7-type view, hold down R and right on the d-pad to run in a circle on the overworld map for HOURS, fighting bad guys. Now, I think it's mostly that I don't have that kind of spare time, but I'll do what it takes to get through PS2.
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Dyson at 02/29/2008 02:22
Atma, I love how you always manage to get in the last comment on the post many, many days later.

Yes, that pinata will. Not as much as it rock trying to explain to a pinata maker what an Aeris is, but almost as much.

I still love to level grind, but not as much as before. If anyone's ever played Lufia, there are two items that you can buy to effect random battles. The one to lower them is sweet water, the one to enhance them is stink water (or sour water, or something like that).

Guess which one I used the most?

DQ show? Let me see what be up with the peeps.
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kneon at 03/03/2008 11:51
Great podcast!

I think we need to see the PS1 and PS2 remakes stateside ASAP...

http://kneontransitt.blogspot.com/2008/03/phantasy-star-generation-1-2-sega.html
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squirrelyg at 03/07/2008 23:43
http://www.pscave.com/dow/rom/

This Site has Translated versions of the text adventure games. It also has translations of adventure and gaiden, but I saw that links to those had been posted anyways.
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teknohed at 03/28/2008 14:59
I love you guys. I really do. And I will always listen to and recommend this show to anyone interested inthe topic...but sometimes you let me down. I just listened to this show on my bike ride to work and about four times I nearly fell of my bike becasue I was yelling "Come on guys! Really?"

I feel like Rev Ant, How can you talk about something when half of you haven't even played this game? And I agree that the online games were weak...but you didn't really talk about the games and what was different. Colette's assholes experience was totally different than mine. when I played on Dreamcast I hated the American's but later on when it was mostly just Japanese players I thought everyone was really nice and the game was fun.

And NONE of you guys had heard aobut the SEGA modem games? REALLY? You guys come off as nothing more than Nintendo / Shooter fan boys and girls. If it isn't Nintendo or a shooter it's like you can't talk about it...total let down.

I love Phantasy Star and was really hoping to hear some great discussions...but instead it was like hearing someone talk about your favorite band after they just "discovered" them when the latest album came out and their talking all this nonsense.
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