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RetroforceGO!: Episode 21: Video game music photo

Normally, this would be the place where I would make some sort of jovial paragraph, or make up some incredibly false, but equally jovial little story. Well, the unfortunate news of the day is that I'm fresh out of jovial. It would seem that corner store by my house that sells everything from batteries to Mogwais has, for the first time ever -- run out of jovial. Alarming, I know, but occasionally these things do happen. Luckily, my Internet good nature can still be uplifted by the release  this week's RFGO!, and I hope that it does the same for you.

Highlights!

  • Much like the speed of light, Chad's level of amaaaazing is constant
  • [Generic] of Thunder comes to the Virtual Console
  • Topher utters his first ever Best Week EVAR!! :)
  • Second sign of the apocalypse to follow shortly
  • F-U Microsoft!
  • Rev attacks the fourth wall (Rev wins!)
  • Special contest prize this week!
  • Chad! Dinner!
So there ya' go folks, another podcast for you listening pleasure. Check it out over on our podcast page, or just subscribe to it via iTunes. And if for some reason the show doesn't refill your jovial levels, I would suggest having some pancakes; they contain magical properties that produce happiness.

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cjpkiller's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 13:53
cjpkiller
there is nothing better than retro gaming music.
fuck yes you made my week(well topher did when he told me on vent but, its out now so my week is still made)

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
delicious!
Knives's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 14:27
Knives
Downloading!

And I'll actually be able to hear it today and not tomorrow =)
LethalHairdo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 14:39
LethalHairdo
SHIT! It's up and I have to leave for work...hopefully no one will have won the contest by tonight!
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 15:30
A New Challenger
I listened to most of it on the Wii Photo Channel. Then a cable came loose and the audio cut out and I had no idea what was going on, so I stopped it to figure out what happened.

Times like this I wish the Wii had a standalone MP3 player channel with rewind/fast forward. Also, I should get an MP3 player.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 15:34
Kif
iTunes won't find it. Stupid bloody player!
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 15:36
Dyson
You listen to this on your Wii? How does that work?
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 16:00
Kif
Probably uses Feedburner. Good idea actually.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 16:01
Kif
EDIT: Shit, just saw what he posted. I thought he listened through the browser.

But yeah, you can transfer MP3s onto an SD card and play them in the Photo Channel, Dyson.
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 16:02
ArrestedDeveloper
I feel ya on the Katamari downloads but wasn't that Bandai Namco's decision not Microsoft's. Also I think that is the first podcast in weeks, if not ever, in which Rev Anthony didn't use the word masturbatory.
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 16:03
Dyson
I guess you learn something new every day.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 16:07
Kif
I held off on listening to this for a bit, was watching GH£ videos on Youtube. Sorry guys :(

Oh yeah, I noticed this is on Japanator and not Destructoid. What's up with that?
Mustin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 16:39
Mustin
Sure wish Dale could have been on this. Would've loved to hear his spiel.
Amethystine's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 17:37
Amethystine
Wow, normally people jump on this really fast. Where is everyone?
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 17:48
A New Challenger
@Amethystine:

Dyson's not kidding, the contest is hard.

Also, all the California listeners are too busy being on fire.
Amethystine's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 17:49
Amethystine
Ha! I'm on the complete opposite side of the continent! Also, it's still only about 4pm over there.
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 17:50
trydizon
@dyson:
You can also use Winamp Remote to stream media from your desktop to your systems. I use it with my PS3 and Wii. It works like a charm.
Amethystine's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 17:58
Amethystine
So, I'm listening to the podcast of course, and I have to say, I know all those old songs are awesome and memorable, but you also remember them because you heard them about a million times as you played through the game. Not that that's a bad thing.
Knives's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 18:07
Knives
Na naaaaaaaaaaaaaa nana na na na na na nana na nana na na na na naaaaaaaaaaaaa. There are some remixes on Beautiful Katamari, but i think the first one still has the best soundtrack.

I'm looking really forward to the chiptunes episode. And i kinda recognize 2 of the contest songs, but I'm not really sure =/.
Amethystine's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 18:08
Amethystine
Don't forget guys, when you want to get away from EA's crappy music in games like Burnout, you can play music you rips onto your Xbox 360... OR, you can stream your entire Mp3 collection from your PC, if you were smart enough to step up the Windows Media Connect stuff beforehand! I do it constantly.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 18:54
Wedge
3) Bionic Commando
4) Ikaruga

No idea what the first 2 are really. One kinda reminded me of Cave Story, but I don't really remember. I didn't buy his CD yet either ;_;. Also if when I listen to this tomorrow and Secret of Mana is NOT mentioned while FF VII IS... I will consider this an irresolute failure.
Amethystine's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 18:57
Amethystine
I had 3 and 4 figured out, but I didn't want to give away my answers. Also, I'm pretty sure they mentioned Secret of Mana once, but didn't discuss it at all. (Or maybe they didn't, and I was just listening to the chiptune/original soundtrack for it, and I was thinking about it)
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 19:46
Dexter345
Yeah! Shout out! Woo!
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 20:34
Fading Star
This was a great show. You guys should do another Video Game Music show and please make sure that EVERYONE is there :D. Final Fantasy 6 :D.
Knives's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 20:53
Knives
I think everyone is afraid of making wild random guesses in the contest =O
Cloudman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2007 22:01
Cloudman
You guys mentioned retro soundtracks, This site documents a bunch of old soundtracks like the original vinyl mario bros. record
LethalHairdo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 00:29
LethalHairdo
Wow...just got home and no one has answered fully yet? This is a hard contest. I ABSOLUTELY and DEFINITELY know the last three...and I'm trying to pinpoint the super familiar first one. I might hold off on answering to see if it comes to me.
drewspils's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 00:30
drewspils
Clearly missed the ball for suggesting songs but in retrospect don't you guys feel a bit bad for not mentioning kid icarus and banjo kazooie?

A bit bad?
LethalHairdo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 00:48
LethalHairdo
Oh well...if I think of the first one later maybe I will add it...

1. I'm going to hate myself when I see the answer. I know I know it.

2. Clash at Demonhead, I think it's the map music.

3. Bionic Commando, first level.

4. Sounds like Ikaruga to me.
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 01:05
A New Challenger
I figured 2 was Clash at Demonhead from the clue.

There you go everyone, figure out the first one and a winner is you.
LethalHairdo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 01:09
LethalHairdo
LOL...I just finished the episode! The clue was ridiculous easy if I had listened to the whole show first. And I'm only posting again to ask if I'm the only one who DOESN'T mind two hour episodes. LOL.
LethalHairdo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 01:12
LethalHairdo
LOL...I just finished the episode! The clue was ridiculous easy if I had listened to the whole show first. And I'm only posting again to ask if I'm the only one who DOESN'T mind two hour episodes. LOL.
Lord_Satorious's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 01:22
Lord_Satorious
Copying-and-pasting what LethalHairdo did know (and I didn't), I know the answer to the first clip;

1. Elevator Action, level music plus sound effects, you can hear the shooting.
2. Clash at Demonhead, I think it's the map music.
3. Bionic Commando, first level.
4. Sounds like Ikaruga to me.

If I win, sorry mate, but I played Elevator Action on the NES as a child.
LethalHairdo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 01:43
LethalHairdo
Oh well...glad I could help, Lord Satorious. Enjoy some good musics.
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 03:31
Dyson
Boo-yah! Lord_Satorious is the winner. So close, Lethal, so close.

And we did mention Secret of Mana in passing. It's hard to mention only one Square RPG without giving fair time to all of them. Except, of course, when Chad's fave is FF III (or VI, or whatever).

Cloudman: Will check that out for sure.

Kif, Microsoft determines the price of their DLC. If you remember, there was a stink a ways back where one of the developers stated they would have given away a map pack for free, but M$ made them charge for it. (But, don't hold me to that 100%, this old brain has a lot of miles on it.) Either way: Booo!

And as far as the Japanator stuff in the file name and url thingy; don't ask me, I just work here ;)

Lord_S, send us your contact info at retroforce@destructoid.com.
KidMakeshift's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 07:15
KidMakeshift
All I have to say is "Shadow of The Colossus." Hands down the greatest soundtrack created for a videogame, IMO.

I recommend you check out:
http://www.bluelaguna.net/music/shadow-of-colossus-ost-soundtrack/mp3s.php
You can listen and download the entire soundtrack.
Anarpis's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 10:17
Anarpis
Good stuff! Mega Man 2 and FFVI are easily two of my favorite video game soundtracks. I also, really love Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger (but hey, who doesn't?). There are a couple of individual track that I really like - a couple from Guardian Legend, Ducktails (fan favorite Space level, though the rest is good, that one stands out), Bubble Bobble theme, tons more... so many!
Knives's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 12:22
Knives
@LethalHairdo
I also don't mind 2 hour episodes, it's not a chore or anything listening to the retroforce crew.
fatty's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 20:56
fatty
Hello, this is the seconde episode that I've listened to (first one was about importing) and I really enjoy the podcast.

Got a question, which Zelda game was being referred to about 50 minutes in the podcast (the one that didn't live up to the hype but was way better than Ocarina of Time, but not as good as Okami). Thanks.

Might have to go and listen to the two Zelda podcasts, would love to see what they said about Adventure of Link. I loved it but I think a lot of people were disappointed, more because it was different from the overhead view of the first (and later 2D Zeldas).
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/25/2007 03:28
Dyson
@fatty: That would be Zelda: Twilight Princess. And that opinion was primarily just mine and Topher's (Okami FTW!).

Adventures of Link was a mixed bag. Chad loved it, yet the rest of us kinda just meh'ed it. It is a fan favorite, though.
Sabreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/02/2007 15:42
Sabreman
I'm new to Destructoid as a whole and RetroforceGO! in particular, so I've been catching up on the podcasts and I just made it to this one so here's a belated and completely superfluous post.

I'm completely in love with videogame music. I listen to it almost exclusively and have done since I was a kid. When my friends were in the shops buying *insert 80s/90s pop group* records I was taping tunes from the C64 and Amiga to play on my Walkman. At school this was considered a little odd :) Fast-forward 20 years and my iPod is full of nothing but VGM (and RFG, of course). These days with the ease of online shopping and ebay I can slake my thirst for VGM albums easily as well.

I don't know how well the Commodore machines were received in the US, and what kind of a following they had, but in the UK and Europe they were massive. The C64 is where my love affair with chiptunes and game music began. Rob Hubbard, Tim Follin, Martin Galway, Jeroen Tel and many, many more were the names I worshipped. Delta, Monty on the Run, Cybernoid, Thrust, Commando, Mutants, The Last Ninja - the list of cast-iron classics goes on. I used to load games purely to listen to the music and not play them at all.

From the C64 I moved onto the Amiga - still a good chip machine but also utilising MODs. To this day I'm still a keen follower of the demoscene that sprang up from these two Commodore machines, and I'm still impressed with some of the stuff they squeezed out of them. Shadow of the Beast, Turrican, Ghouls n Ghosts and Uridium 2 marked some of the highlights of the Amiga.

Then came the jangly sound of the Megadrive, the soft beeps of the NES, and the magnificent orchestra of the SNES. Tecno Soft did amazing things with the Megadrive with Thunderforce III and Elemental Master in particular. Then of course there's the great Yuzo Koshiro and his scores for Super Shinobi and Streets of Rage. The NES started a love affair with Konami Kukeiha Club that persists to this day, almost entirely due to Castlevania, and no-one could forget the utter brilliance of every last beep of Mega Man 2.

The SNES was a revelation and a mindblowing experience for a VGM fan. The performance that was squeezed out of that (Sony!) sound chip is hugely impressive. Secret of Mana, Final Fantasy VI, Actraiser, Area-88, Contra III (that stage 3 music - wow), and a whole lot more.

With the advent and domination of CD media and streaming audio there's been a shift in style and purpose of VGM. You guys mentioned it on the show - the move from individually catchy tunes to less focused scoring emphasizing mood and atmosphere. Though of course there are still plenty of soundtracks that deliver in spades (Shadow of the Colossus, Phantasy Star Online, Vagrant Story, and the Final Fantasies of course. I love so many modern game soundtracks, but my heart really belongs to the chip. Topher hit the nail on the head and I fully agree - there's something about the technical and creative talent that went into getting those chips to perform the way they did, and leave us with such memorable melodies. To me it goes hand-in-hand with pixel art... the challenge of creating something great with a limited set of tools.

One thing surprisingly missing from the show was any comment on arguably the best bunch of game scores out there - the Ys series. I particular the first three games. From their original chiptune incarnations to the lastest rearrangements in things like The Oath In Felghana, this stuff is truly amazing and timeless.
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