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RetroforceGO!: Episode 15: The 2D fighter photo

So, uh, listen to any good podcasts over the weekend? If the answer to that is yes, and it better be, then know now that this new episode of RFGO! is 99.9% Metroid free. You're welcome. This week's show can be summed up in three very simple, but important words: I. Got. Next.

Highlights!

  • Women love men who wear Amaaazing ...
  • We're Coletteless again :(
  • Chad presents the Dolphometer! (Soooo awesome!)
  • Any good math student should be able to tell you that you can't divide by zero
  • Maybe Chad needs to play some Donkey Kong Jr. Math?
  • Rev's new rant makes him my newest hero
  • New RFGO! drinking game: Drink every time Topher mentions Rival Schools 2
  • Do not plan to drive or accomplish anything important while playing

With that many highlights, what could possibly be left to listen to? A whole lot of awesomesauce, that's what. Check out the episode here, and make sure to post lots of wonderful pictures and comments below. We love the comments, especially ones that have contest answers in them.

And doesn't somebody owe me a kitten?








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BlueWolf72's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 19:37
BlueWolf72
will be aired on the radio for the night..

http://69.26.174.40:8000/listen.pls
itemforty's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 19:50
itemforty
I'm sitting here with a bottle of rum and I haven't heard anything about Rival Schools. :(
Colette Bennett's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 19:51
Colette Bennett
THE DOLPH-O-METER!!! GOD ITS BEAUTIFUL!!!
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 19:51
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain
Dolphometer < Slamometer
Chad Concelmo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 19:55
Chad Concelmo
I do need to play Donkey Kong Jr. Math. Thanks, expensive (apparently wasted) education! :(
itemforty's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 20:02
itemforty
@ Topic
I'm sorry, I didn't like Advent Rising because it was terribly buggy and
frustratingly easy. I really really really wanted to like it, but...

@ Chad
Your avatar is so goddamn happy I can't imagine you ever being sad.
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 20:09
trydizon
1. Cammy
2. Chun Li
3. Sakura

( o Y o )s
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 20:10
Bob Muir
What, you don't feel like talking about Metroid even more?
BFeld13's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 20:10
BFeld13
RetroforceGO!

Always 6/5 dolphins
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 20:21
Dyson
@trydizon You win! I know, I know, it was pretty easy this week. But you have no idea how tired I was during editing last night. I assure you, next week will be thhe hardest week so far!

Email us with you human name and info: retroforce@destructoid.com

... the Slamometer is better than the Dolphmoter? Blasphemy!

@itemforty: Just wait until the second half. You'll drink yourself blind.
itemforty's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 20:31
itemforty
Oh man, <3 Topher.
I am going to finish the broadcast at the hospital.
trydizon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 20:48
trydizon
@dyson: it's all good, i won the monies anyway. it would've been killer if you played a clip of a match from random SF games, and you had to guess the game, stage and who's fighting. regardless, thanks for the editing efforts. this RFGO is AMAAAZING.... my monday night is now made.

was anyone ever cursed with the sega genesis 3-button controller?
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 21:57
Anthony Burch
itemforty:
Yeah, nobody likes Advent Rising. I can't necessarily blame them, but I derive a hell of a lot of enjoyment out of it.
itemforty's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 22:11
itemforty
I really envy you for being able to get passed the things I didn't like. I mean that sincerely, because I was really interested in something else from Orson Scott Card.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 23:18
Sharpless
Why do I keep thinking that the Dolphometer involves this guy:

LethalHairdo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 23:23
LethalHairdo
Dolph-o-meter makes for quick and easy "ftw?" assessments.
LethalHairdo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 23:25
LethalHairdo
DOUBLE POST!!!!!11

LAWL x athousand @ the "...Amazing" commercial. Glad I could provide a visual.
phamtq's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2007 23:54
phamtq
3D Fighters seemed (to me at least), didn't have the "rhythm" as a 2D fighter. Maybe it's because you had more options in terms of basic offensive moves. Like Virtua Fighter is basically Guard, Punch, and Kick while something like Street fighter had Jap, Strong, Fierce JUST for punch moves.

Also, the art is just better on 2D fighters. 3D used to be cool cause it was new and you were like "Hey, it's like real life!". But because of the saturation of 3D in so many games, it loses it's appeal. 2D is almost like playing your comic books/manga. Pixel art FTW.

And yes. Mortal Kombat sucks. :D
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 00:13
AngelsDontBurn
Aww yeah, good stuff!
droobies's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 00:21
droobies
Awesome stuff guys. Angels, great job on taking over bucket duty. No one mentioned Time Killers, fail.
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 02:35
A New Challenger
No Darkstalkers/Vampire mention? That game oozes charm. I have the Dreamcast version, which is probably the best of the home versions since it has all the characters. Street Fighter with monsters and an insane Red Riding Hood, what's not to love?

Another neat 3D-but-not-really fighter on the 'cast is Tech Romancer. Giant robots for the total win. The end boss is cheap as shit, though. There's an awesome story mode where each robot/pilot is basically the star of its own TV show, and the other robots fill roles as good/bad guys depending on which story you're playing through. And the stories branch depending on certain conditions of the fights. Most of the robots are "inspired" by popular mecha anime/manga series (and were all designed by the studio responsible for the original robot designs.) There's a lot here for mecha fans to love, and while I'm not at all a follower of mecha anime, giant robots fighting is cool, and the story mode is excellent.

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 is fun, but it is incredibly busy and I cannot see through all the glitz and smoke and lasers. I just pick Venom and fly across the screen over and over.

Donkey Kong Jr. Math is actually somewhat fun in two player mode, but definitely not worth $5. If you have Animal Crossing on Gamecube it's unlockable, so try it on there.

One note pertaining to Episode 14.5 re: Keeping/losing powers in the next game in a series. Banjo-Tooie let you keep everything from Banjo-Kazooie, and added a lot of new stuff on top of that (mostly shooting different kinds of eggs, shooting them in first person, and shooting them in the air.) I appreciated that very much.

Finally, happy 8th birthday, Dreamcast.
s0lesurviv0r's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 02:40
s0lesurviv0r
Don't worry, Bridget shall not be mentioned again. Cool episode, a bit too Street Fighter-centric, but cool nonetheless. Looking forward to the SSB:Brawl podcast.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 03:00
Topher Cantler
@New Challenger- I'm actually a big fan of Darkstalkers, and that's what I had in mind when I kept mentioning over-the-top combos and graphics. Sorry we didn't get into it more, it's hard to squeeze everything into an hour. :)
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 03:04
Topher Cantler
@s0lesurviv0r-

Tristero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 04:25
Tristero
Great job in the bitch bucket, angels. I vote for you as a regular guest. You can be like Nipsy Russell on Conan O'Brien. BTW, I totally made it an entire week and a half on my personal sXe challenge before I caved in during an all night Viva Pinata binge.

Topher: I love Rival Schools 2. That super move where you combine all three students to kick some major ass is the best thing I've ever seen in a fighting game. So much fun.
Torzelan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 04:52
Torzelan
EVO 2004 MOMENT # 37

Oh hell yes I will never ever manage to watch through that vid without getting goosebumps and this sick feeling of "oh my god". I honestly can't explain it, while I may have gotten a similar feeling in some other games / moments (and some music, heh) it sure doesn't happen again when I've watched the vid a couple of times, but this is every time. The crowd reaction probably has a lot to do with it, which on another is one of the major reasons I (while not even being a part of it in the slightest) love love that community. There's just no other community (FPS, RTS, etc) that is as cool.

I follow the CGS and out of all the games, the one that for me is miles above the others both as far as watching the actual game and also having the most interesting players playing it, is the one fighting game.
Torzelan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 04:54
Torzelan
No edit function equals me multiposting.
Just had to thank for another great show. Makes boring work feel less like boring work.
Bluefusion's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 06:04
Bluefusion
Your inability to recognize that dividing by zero is bad amused me.

"You can't divide by zero."

"What are you talking about?"

"You fail."
Batthink's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 08:24
Batthink
@ New Challenger and Topher Cantler,

Yeah, I liked Darkstalkers too.

You guys did a great show, with plenty of great moments that forced me to reminisce (the six-button Mega Drive controller, Killer Instinct, etc).

I thought a good topic to talk about regarding 2D fighters would be 'cheap moves'. I never liked it when E. Honda's Hundred Hand Slap in later versions of SF II was able to be moved, because you could corner an opponent and trap them there. People would try and give rules out where characters with cheap moves would not be allowed to be selected, but this obviously hampers what the game was supposed to be for gamers...

I also remembered Dragon (the game based on the Bruce Lee film where you could play as three characters), and Primal Rage (the one with the 'claymation' dinosaurs). Maybe you'd be able to talk about these in later shows.
entrager's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 10:06
entrager
That was the best intro ever! Truely AMAZING!
phamtq's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 11:12
phamtq
@Batthink

"I never liked it when E. Honda's Hundred Hand Slap in later versions of SF II was able to be moved, because you could corner an opponent and trap them there. People would try and give rules out where characters with cheap moves would not be allowed to be selected, but this obviously hampers what the game was supposed to be for gamers.."

But that was never that really big of a deal because you could always counter E. Honda's slap pretty easily. And projectile user could take him out. Chun Li has at least 2 options available to her. Maybe the only one that doesn't have options is Boxer and Zangief but they probably do.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 12:28
Wedge
Why... the one time the contest is something I know I don't sneak in a listen before doing the whole show at work... ;_;
Batthink's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 15:40
Batthink
@ phamtq,

Yeah, I agree with you on trying to get past that HHS that Honda uses.

I felt that Zangief had a big disadvantage against projectile users because he could only just jump the fireballs.
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 15:55
A New Challenger
If you've played Super Turbo, some of the issues involving Zangief and fireballs have been resolved. Also, E.Honda's handslap was toned way the fuck down from Hyper Fighting- he automatically rushes forward a set distance (based on punch strength) instead of being able to be freely moved around by the player.

I suck at Street Fighter II but I still love it and watching pros play it is exciting.
Irvine_frost's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 16:51
Irvine_frost
c´mon ps1 is retro, only not to retro. but is was expecting a little mention on street fighter 3, or 3-2 or 3-3. One of the best games for tournaments. When you say that street fighter II was awesome because all the characters has something, i feel it's the same way whith the street fighter 3 series, the aspect 0f parrying, you have only one super and that affect your game strategy, etc.

i remember Killer Instict catridges, i think the reason becasuse there are so banged up is the fact that this game came in a bundle pack. i remember when i got my Snes it cames with Killer Istinct and the dreadfull Taz-mania, gladly i changed it for Super Street Fighter II.

and by the way, Cammy is awesome, if i have to choose a character of the 4 "new" that doesn´t cut the mustard is DeeJay, is just a simple process of Elimintation.

Cammy: Fast and Accurate
T.Hawk: Strong and not to slow
Fei long: Fast and tricky as fuck!
Deejay: Slow and Sloppy, the only quality is his uppercut, when you comboed
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 19:28
Wedge
Also I get the impression I can kick all your asses at Street Fighter, PROVE ME WRONG! And Rival Schools is hawt, I need to get into it again. I played the PS1 version a TON back in jr. high, and even got to play an import of PJ once.
Irvine_frost's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/12/2007 11:08
Irvine_frost
in the street fighter 3 Third Strike i have a big chance of pwning at least 60 per cent of gamers
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 04:19
Fading Star
Immature f#@knobs?
KidMakeshift's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 07:48
KidMakeshift
Ah! I can't believe Darkstalkers and JoJo's Bizarre adventure were completely unmentioned. Oh, and don't forget the greatest 2d fighter of all time... "Cho Aniki!"
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