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Retrode console brings legitimacy to emulation photo

As you're probably well aware, emulation is a fantastically convenient way for us to play our old games but it does suffer from a few problems. Many of those issues surround the legality of playing copies of ROMs downloaded from the internet, a grey area which has been debated for decades by people in no position to give legal advice.

The Retrode 2 skirts this issue altogether, acting as a USB-compatible port for your Super Famicom/Nintendo and SEGA Genesis/Mega Drive cartridges. A cartridge slotted in the Retrode has its ROM files mounted as virtual files on a USB drive which can be accessed by your favorite emulator. It also features ports for connecting your original SNES and Genesis controllers, which are mounted as HID-compliant devices.

It's also not terribly cheap. The one US-based distributor for the product, Stone Age Gamer, is currently accepting pre-orders at a price of $84.99 (free shipping). In Europe, you can snag one for a little over 70 direct from Retrode. Still, if you want to feel good about yourself when you're playing emulated games, is that really too much to pay for peace of mind?

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qlum's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 15:33
qlum
the problem with this however is the price and the fact that it doesnt let you optain games that are not sold anymore
Sonic7877's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 15:34
Sonic7877
That's pretty cool but way overpriced. You're better off just buying an FC Twin for around $30.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 15:35
Scuffles
*waits patiently for it to be sued out of existence*

Tho might pick one up once the price drops if they still exist that is.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 15:35
SephirothX
This thing also apparently lets you move save files off your cartridge and onto your PC. Plus considering how many shoddy USB SNES replica controllers there are out there, it would be so much better to use a real SNES controller. (Or Genesis controller, if that floats your boat)
Aequitas's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 15:40
Aequitas
"Still, if you want to feel good about yourself when you're playing emulated games, is that really too much to pay for peace of mind?"

In a word, yes.

Emulators are popular because they are infinitely convenient. Anyone who wants to play with an original gamepad likely already has a Smartjoy or similar USB adapter. If cartridges are *that* important to an individual, I sincerely doubt they would purchase this instead of just getting an original console from Ebay.

I'm finding it hard to imagine a scenario in which any consumer would think this was a good buy.
PhilK3nS3bb3n's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 15:41
PhilK3nS3bb3n
Do want. Especially seeing as how I still have perfectly working genesis and snes controllers/carts. Doom Troopers, Gunstar Heroes and Super Castlevania 4, here I cum.
Keres's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 15:45
Keres
It's a cool product, but practically speaking, you're still playing on an emulator. The only difference between this and the "normal" mode is that you're using the ROM file off of the cartridge instead of off your hard drive. It's cool to give more legitimacy to emulation, I suppose, but I don't see the reason why most of us would need one.
H3xidecimal's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 15:48
H3xidecimal
This thing is really cool though the cost is a bit prohibitory.
Sat's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 15:53
Sat
SNES/Genesis only? Aw. I'd love a way to play my NES games in true RGB.

There should be a console able to read any kind of old cartridge and display it in emulation perfection. Because a real N64 on HDTV isn't pretty at all, it looks much better in emulation.
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 16:04
fetusmilk
ok who on here has a bunch of nes/snes/genesis games and controllers, but doesnt have the systems?

this thing is worthless. you can get a used snes for less than 80$.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 16:10
free touch
fetus: its for dudes who want a simple way to capture older system games legitimately, without a capture card.
OneRed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 16:22
OneRed
This is the kind of thing that avid classic gamers would love, but anyone without a preexisting collection would have a rough go of it. Too bad companies like these will never get really bold, and reprint the old games themselves.
BrowneyeWinkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 16:52
BrowneyeWinkin
Taking out the legally grey area takes out all the fun

I CANT CUM TO THIS
overdoze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 17:12
overdoze
Cool device. Im guessing you can ectract the rom
File too. Emulation is touchy these days. I'm wondering has anyone actually been taken to court over having roms? Or just court ordered to take down sites that offer downloads?

Since virtual console on wii it seems all the websites have gone away
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 17:58
Wedge
That's kinda nice so you don't have to worry about the save data dying on old carts actually.
El Mabo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 18:10
El Mabo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEeXaFFUGrU&feature=player_embedded

It seem to simply read the rom file from the cartridge from an emulator. You are technically playing with the cartridge with your PC and having acces to the saves too!

I like the idea of having a SNES ripper available for cheap, good for peoples in possessions of proto, unreleased etc

Nice way to get my 100% Yoshi Island savegame!
Gaidenrider's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 18:40
Gaidenrider
This sounds great if you already have the games, and better if you plan on getting them. Sure, they'll be pricey, but I would personally pay top-dollar for Marco Polo's journals... eh, I mean for a brand new Link to the Past cart.
Zend Message's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 18:43
Zend Message
Waste of money.
Emulators and ROMS? Free.
USB SNES/Genesis/etc controller? $10 each on Amazon.
Downloading ROMS and Emulators and configuring the settings to be played by my 360 controller and getting the satisfaction of not paying a penny for classic titles?

PRICELESS.
sardiax's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 18:47
sardiax
If you do it any other way, you are a pirate.
Gaidenrider's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 18:50
Gaidenrider
Nintendo should just give the OK to adapt PC version of their NES-SNES games. Not ROMs, but rather EXEs. Then put them on GOG and badum, I'd be happy!

Then again, I know there's a LOT more involved in those kinds of things. A person or two (or a lot) will try and tell me that it can't be done because "Nintendo wouldn't _______ from ______ by ______"

Still, a man can dream...
youngskeletor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 19:02
youngskeletor
Uhh... If you own the old carts what's illegal about playing the emulators?

...or am I missing something?
MeanderBot's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 19:11
MeanderBot
Or, you know, just get a SNES/Genesis.
Tony Ponce's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 22:03
Tony Ponce
@youngskeletor

Because the law about playing emulated software is that you have to dump the ROM file from your own cartridge. Obtaining the ROM from a third party, even if you physically own the game, is not legal. Remember all those disclaimers about "you can only download this if you own the game, but must delete within 24 hours if you don't"? Yeah, those are all lies.
MaRkiSH's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/03/2012 23:18
MaRkiSH
I bought a Sega Master System flashcart that uses SD cards. It's the tops.
Aequitas's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/04/2012 00:39
Aequitas
It's not legal to acquire ROMs from third-party sites, and even less legal for them to host the files. However, a simple cost-benefit analysis will tell you that the gobs and gobs of lawyer money spent to fight battles for 15-25 year old games that aren't sold at retail anymore doesn't make any business sense.

It's a shame this wasn't out 12 years ago, when people besides fanatical collectors might still have their cartridge collections. Here's hoping this company makes a very limited run, and moves on to more timely and relevant projects.
Sonic7877's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/04/2012 00:50
Sonic7877
I wish someone would release a kit with blank NES cartridges where you can load games on them. It would be nice to have actual cartridges with rom hacks and homebrew on them.

I know it's more trouble than it's worth, but I like owning NES cartridges, played on my NES, hooked up to my shitty old TV.
Alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/04/2012 01:17
Alex
@Sonic7877:
http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?products_id=34

There are flashcards for NES, SNES, n64 and Mega Drive. They work just like those R4 cards everybody knows from their DS.
youngskeletor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/04/2012 08:44
youngskeletor
@ Tony Ponce - Ahhh... I see. That's actually the message I was thinking about. I just imagined it possible IF you were to be slapped with a lawsuit or criminal charge, you could just bust out all the cartridges in the courtroom and yell "BOOYAH!" with some smoke and confetti.

... I watch too much Arrested Development.
spuhgeddi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/04/2012 09:14
spuhgeddi
How is giving $85 to some company supposed to make me feel better? Can I just burn the money and keep playing my games?
5hourgamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/04/2012 11:14
5hourgamer
See, I have a Genesis and a billionty games that I can't play because I don't have a TV that it plays on. I'd be tempted to get this now if I didn't have the past 3 months of games still to play.
Mrdraven's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/04/2012 11:48
Mrdraven
I suppose this thing might be aimed at someone like me, who still owns a couple dozen cartidges and loves them all. Except this gamer likes to insert game, THEN PLAY!! No transferring this or that, no extra steps, no extra bullshit.

Put in game. Turn on system. Play.

For me it should never be more difficult than that. I have little enough time to play as it is already.
nopeavi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/04/2012 13:28
nopeavi
plain retarded
ParkourDog's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/04/2012 23:07
ParkourDog
Why the FUCK should we have to be in "good position to give legal advice" to discuss to morality of something? When has legality ever been an argument in the debate of right vs wrong? "OH! Abortion is illegal in my lame ass country, it must be wrong DERP DEH ERP"
Conrad Zimmerman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2012 01:58
Conrad Zimmerman
@ParkourDog: I'm sorry, did I miss the sentence where I used the word "morality" or any variation of it? I agree that there's a huge distinction between legality and morality, I'm just not sure how you possibly could have gotten the impression otherwise.
Thomas Archuleta's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2012 17:51
Thomas Archuleta
This is basically a cartridge USB drive and controller adaptor for your computer which turns SNES and Genesis carts into USB drives and controllers into HID compliant controllers. It's a little too late for me though as I already have a Super Smartjoy adaptor and I don't have any genesis controllers.. I've also all my favorites dumped to my computer already.

They should make one of these for the 8-bit generation and perhaps one for the Neo Geo and Nintendo 64.
Brazil Rules's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2012 20:23
Brazil Rules
@Conrad: He is right, you used the words peace of mind, wich means feeling you aren't doing anything wrong.(And we know how copyright is how lot's of ppl do evil things)
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