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Despite the fact that Sony will sell downloadable PSP games for the same price as their UMD counterparts, the digital-only status of the PSPgo has still managed to rub some retailers up the wrong way. Chief among them is Nedgame, a leading Dutch retailer that has refused to stock the PSPgo when it launches on October 1.

Nedgame will continue to support previous PSP models like the PSP 3000, but the latest Sony handheld has been officially boycotted, and I'm sure we can all guess why a retailer that deals in secondhand games would have a problem with a disc-less system. 

"We hope you understand our decision," explains the retailer. "Most gamers still want a box and booklet in their game, or at least the choice between a physical product or a download. The PSP GO! Sony cut the consumer choice and thus creates a monopoly on the PSP GO! game sales. We see this as a very bad development for both the consumer and the retailer."

What do you make of this? Are retailers right to shun the UMD-less system, or is the retailer cutting its nose off to spite its face. With rumors of other European stores planning their own boycott of the PSPgo, this could indeed be a case of real bad blood between Sony and the sellers.








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Jaymundo87's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:26
Jaymundo87
Makes sense to me. Sony really should have put some feelers out when they first came up with this idea. I agree with the retailers that are boycotting the PSPGO!, more power to you.
Skab's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:29
Skab
I don't like Sony's business practices at all, BUT this seems to me a nice cover for REALLY saying, we can't resell down-loadable games 5 times to people.
martinine's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:31
martinine
I like the PSPgo, but there is no way I am paying that price for it... Plus, I like to get used games.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:35
Chronic Logic
Say NO to used games! Buy the PSPgo! Ha, just kidding.
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:36
lewness
Come on Sony just drop the price for download-able games already. Please. Okay, futile attempt finished.
Nerdy Suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:38
Nerdy Suit
The retailers are doing this because they realize they will eventually be completely cut out of the money to be made on selling video games if everything goes digital. It makes sense to not support it from their end...at least at this moment.

This could be a sign that converting to the digital age may not be as easy as video game companies would like if some of the big retailers refuse to carry their digital platforms. If Walmart, Target, Gamestop, etc, realize they'll be cut out of the loop, will they be willing to stock these future digital platforms? Time will tell.
georgiom's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:38
georgiom
Exactly why I'm not getting one. I have a large library of PSP games that i can't play on the PSPgo. Plus download only for $250?that is too steep of a price to pay for the latest and greatest with serious limitations. I'll stick with my 2000 lord vader edition. ;)
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:40
shinryu
I wonder if they have the same "ethical" conerns about the iPhone.

Honestly, I'm a bit worried about Sony monopolizing its distribution channels. But used game retailers are just as bad.
countingdown7's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:46
countingdown7
Personally, I still have the phat PSP, cuz I'm not a girly man that needs a light n fluffy slim tobe able to play. Seriously tho, it makes sense that they want to keep making money. Retailers make money on game sales. Without games, that revenue stream is gone. Sadly(for them)there will be AT LEAST one retailer cashing in on being the only PSPgo source.

But yes, even -10 on download games should be mandatory. The retailer mark up alone makes it worth it, in addition to the money saved on a physical product.
The GHost's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:47
The GHost
My question is whether Sony has announced that they intend to go download-only in the near future, and thus stop supporting those that likes them some tangible product and old PSP. If so, then I suppose enough of these boycotts might get them to put out discs for a while longer, which would make me happy since I like being able to have a physical copy of my games.

Ultimately the future of the industry is likely to be much more download heavy, and clearly that's the way Sony is moving with the PSPgo. So it seems kind of inevitable to me that the boycotting retailers will have to start making some concessions concerning the stocking and selling of download-only hardware eventually. Still, who knows? Maybe all this newfangdangled download-only stuff won't catch on.
Uber Mashu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:48
Uber Mashu
I don't blame Mr Retail at all. How many models of the PSP are we on now?
If it were as popular as the DS and Sony were simply trying to milk it's success, it would at least make some sense to me.

My current PSP is sat on my shelf unused and gathering dust. I cannot justify spending the same cash I did 4 YEARS AGO on yet another model that may become obsolete the second the decide it needs a new lick of paint or "must have" upgrade.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:52
CelicaCrazed
Pfft fine I'll just order from Sony directly. Now they don't get money for games or for the handheld. Their loss.
TheChemist's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:54
TheChemist
I have no problem with them doing this. Sometimes I decide to wait for a game to drop in price before buying as I don't want it bad enough to pay full price. If there is only one place for purchase (PSN store) there will not be pressure to drop the prices. Like how amazon's prces are a few dollars cheaper than MSRP is sometimes enough to purchase from there. I just don't see the publishers wanting to alter pricing like they do now.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:54
Black Nexus
I'd feel that way IF they were cutting support for the older model psp's, but there not so it just deems like they made a device for the I phone types who don't care about physical media (I'm quickly finding out that number is a lot larger than I originally thought).
TheChemist's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 08:58
TheChemist
@CelicaCrazed

The point is they will not get the money for the games if they are download only. Sony is the only one getting the money if you download the game. If you buy a PSPGo the retailer will only get money from the hardware sales, all future game downloads only profit Sony as you cannot buy them at any retailers.
Spectreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 09:01
Spectreman
* It´s a transitional problem. The retailers are only postone the inevitable.
Evergreen's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 09:04
Evergreen
If was a retailer, Sony better be giving me a huge cut on each PSP, or else I wouldn't want to be selling it either. Not only do I have to worry about making money from selling new games, but also the PSPGo in and of itself is going to be a harder sell to consumers. Imagine a customer coming in asking about the difference. "I can download on both, but this cheaper one also lets me use discs. Why do I want the more expensive one again?" "Um... it's smaller?"

Don't get me started on prices. Sony already charges $40 on some new UMD games, which is absolutely outrageous. No portable game should be that expensive. I haven't checked out the Sony download store in a while, but if they think they can sell downloads for $40, they are dead wrong. Pricing is one big reason that the used market exists!

I really think all three (Sony, MS, Nintendo) need to rethink their pricing strategies with games these days. IMO, Nintendo is closest to getting it right at this point, but if prices stay the same while removing consumer needs, I would predict another crash in the videogame market.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 09:12
Steel Brotha
Why is everyone saying "SONY WILL MONOPOLIZE ZOMG ZOMG". The publishers of the games as well as the developers of games get money too. It's just the retailer trying to justify giving you $5 store credit on a used game while selling it to someone else for $30. Who makes the $25 difference, retailers. They put themselves in this position by doing that.
lwelyk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 09:15
lwelyk
I think Candlejack got Jim gu
Banana Kid's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 09:38
Banana Kid
@lwelyk Oh, don't be ridiculous, everyone knows Candlejack is just a my
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 09:45
PappaDukes
This is the best Article Jim ha
CBunn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 10:24
CBunn
Seems like the article is missing an
Dr Awesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 10:31
Dr Awesome
Retail:

Consumer buys game, later trades it in and gets a tiny amount of the retail price. Consumer gets royally screwed.

DD:

Consumer buys game, cannot trade it in, cannot buy it used. Consumer gets royally screwed.

Digital personal property (DPP):

Consumer buys game, devs get money, game can be sold between people, (but not at retail) lent or given freely, but not duplicated. Everybody wins!
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 10:32
atastysammich
I'd be upset too if I were Candlejack and my PSP Sli
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 11:00
whormongr
screw that, I am boycotting nedgame, they are off my list of regular dutch retailers that I purchase from...
nilcam's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 11:13
nilcam
The hardware companies are going to be in for a rough time with retailer relations. As games go digital, retailers will be losing a lot of revenue and will likely threaten to boycott selling hardware.
Molo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 11:17
Molo
Might as well pull MP3 players from retail store too, since that could also hurt retailers! Oh wait ...
Jared Ari's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 11:18
Jared Ari
I sure as hell don't love it. It looks goofy.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 11:21
Electrium
I don't want my games to go digital. Maybe I'm stuck in the past, but any convenience downloading offers is, in my eyes, negated by the fact that you can't buy/sell used games. And you have no permanent form of storage. I just love my discs/cartridges so much more than I'll trust lines of code. So, in the name of xenophobia, I fully support any retailer that boycotts the PSP. =P
CyberStrike3000X's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 11:24
CyberStrike3000X
To me, download-only sounds like the worst idea ever.

What will I have to display on my shelves without cases?

[QQQQ]
Janledroxa's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 11:30
Janledroxa
I hope the pspgo doesnt sell at all, it's the only way sony and the likes are gonna listen, not with petitions that nobody looks at, it could work with cheaper downloadable games, but getting shafted with less stuff for the same pprice doesnt seem fair.
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 11:31
DF
@CyberStrike: Why, empty DVD cases with poorly-made covers of course!
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 11:48
CelicaCrazed
TheChemist, how is retailers not making money my problem?? They could either carry the PSPgo and make a bit of money or they could not carry it and make no money. I don't hear retailers complaining about how iPhone games are download only. With the inflated price, I'm sure retailers will be getting a bigger cut of the sale than with the 3000 anyways. As it is, I'm fed up with the price of games. I've only bought 4 physical games across all consoles all year compared to about a dozen+ digitally distributed.

I'll pay premium for my games if it means I get better convenience and portability.
dwolfwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 11:59
dwolfwood
I gotta say it's a poor move on their decision. Just means if someone wants a PSPGo, they're gonna go somewhere else.

Poor executive decision that makes them look immature and too one-sided.
TheChemist's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 12:00
TheChemist
CelicaCrazed, I'm not saying your thoughts are wrong, just putting it out there why this retailer is pissed. Realistically, unless you are reselling games, it shouldn't matter how you get them. It doesn't affect the consumer end, unless prices never decrease on games, but the retailers see a significant decrease in revenue. I don't disagree that the download model works (i.e. the iPhone model), but that's the way it has always been for retailers, they have never gotten a cut of iPhone game sales. If you look at how games sold now, all of these retailers are counting on revenue from games, which the publishers are trying to take away, so they are looking at a loss of profit that they once saw. It's akin to doing a volunteer job. If you were not paid from the beginning you would be OK wioth that, but if you were paid and they then tried to take that you'd be pissed. I know that isn't an exact mirror of this situation, but you know what I'm getting at.
Vanor's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 12:04
Vanor
Although it's obvious that the retailers are probably only looking out for their own hides, the truth is that their fears are well-founded. The PSP-Go needs to die in a fire. I want to OWN my games. I want to be able to let my friends BORROW my games. I want to be able to SELL my games in if I don't want them anymore (doesn't have to be Gamestop, could just sell them on Ebay or Amazon). Digital distribution isn't going to be the future of anything if they're gonna treat their customers like shit with it.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 12:21
CelicaCrazed
@ TheChemist

Haha yeah I get what you are trying to say. I just feel that retailers need to stop trying to prevent the inevitable and start getting creative with their businesses. Instead of bitching and moaning about digital distribution, they should be trying to charge Sony for carrying PSN Cards. Or sell codes for the games but include promotional gifts like key chains or lanyards to get people to buy through them instead of the just picking up prepaid cards. They need to start using their heads.

Even music stores sell MP3 players so they really shouldn't treat video games any differently.
daysocks's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 13:16
daysocks
I work at a games store. We make NO profit on any consoles that we sell, AT ALL. The PSPGo is pretty much a no go, we will get no further profit from it. And our trade-ins are approx. 2/3s of the sale price so I really don't see the issue with used games, but maybe it's different over here.

Also, the Go will cost £225 which is about $370 so why the hell should any British retailer stock it or any customers buy it anyway?
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 13:27
Darren Nakamura
They can do what they want. I don't expect that not selling PSPgos will hurt them in any way, and it does make a statement to Sony that we can hope might be taken to heart.
TheChemist's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 13:34
TheChemist
I agree that digital distribution is the future, but it's not as close as many think. A lot of people do not have access or can't afford broadband internet and that pretty much does away with a good chunk of any game's sales. Even if you put download stations in stores that would only be viable to handheld owners, plus who would want to stand in a store for however long it takes to download games.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 14:16
Niero
That's hilarious. They can fight it short term, but retailers are going to lose if they don't embrace digital distribution.

Case and point: Blockbuster is closing some 600+ stores next year.
thisissami's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 14:29
thisissami
i'm with skab and niero. it just seems like a pitiful attempt to block something that won't net them hundreds of thousands of dollars through used sales.
ninjikiran's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 14:38
ninjikiran
When you buy a PSP, DS, 360, PS3 you usually walk out the store with the system, an accesory and a game or more. You will usually come back to buy more games, but once they sell you a PSP go they aren't making a game sale with your purchase nor are they going to see you coming back down the line to buy a new game.
Chibi_Zero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 15:25
Chibi_Zero
I'm with Niero on this. Not selling the GO will just hurt them in the long run. The people who want one can still buy one somewhere else. And it's not as if you actually need the PSP GO to actually download a game...
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 15:37
Midgetsnowman
The thing is, The stores cant just magically not fight it. Its not like sony intends to ever share profits with "teh evul game stoarz" if it doesnt ever have to again
stanfy86's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 16:44
stanfy86
i still dont see any reason why someone would want a psp go over a psp-2000 i mean i guess the added internal storage, but we are at what 16 gig cards available now? i use a 4GIG my self and it holds everything i need, for everything else, theres an external laptop drive, the screen is smaller, batt life worse, no UMD, no 2nd analog, the sliding feature does nothing for the system, if it were a clam shell desighn it would make sence to protect the screen but it isint, as it is its another part to break down, and ruin the unit.

What happens when it no longer clicks into the open position? wait 2 months for sony to fix it thats what.

These issues in conjunction with the whole digital distribution only thing is why the psp go will only sell to the impulse buyer's (i like to call them the iphone crowd) and the parents who know their kid wants a PSP for christmas, and assume that this newer unit is the greatest available.
trsspidey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 17:29
trsspidey
People saying that it's a poor decision to not stock the psp go fail to realize that as a retailer, you only have so much space for inventory. Why waste space with something that doesn't make a profit and won't bring a customer back? If you do that you really do yourself no favours (and do SONY a huge one for no reason). Wouldn't you rather stock your available space with accessories or you know... actual games??? At that point... LET the customer go to the retailer then who is wasting space!

Anyone remember the problem with rockband / guitar hero / giant plastic peripheral games? They took up so much space... retailers were starting to figure it was just cheaper to stock 10 copies of madden in one allocation rather than 1 copy of guitar hero. It's all about profits in relation to available space.
trsspidey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 17:39
trsspidey
""retailers were starting to figure it was just cheaper to stock 10 copies of madden in one allocation""

Sorry... they began to realize it was more PROFITABLE to stock 10 copies of madden instead of one guitar hero.


If I were a retailer ... my priorities for merchandise would be.

Merchandise with high profit margin
Merchandise with low profit margin
Merchandise with lower profit margin but could bring customers back

then way at the bottom
Merchandise that I make no profits on and sell just out of the goodness of my heart and love for SONY.

Really... for the life of me I can't figure out why ANY retailer is selling this hardware.
AceFlibble's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2009 18:30
AceFlibble
Retailers are absolutely right to do this and I'm amazed any retailer would consider stocking the PSPGo. A download-only platform is simply a terrible idea for everyone other than Sony.
Chibi_Zero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2009 03:53
Chibi_Zero
Ace Flibble: They are probably stocking them because they realize the people who want A PSPGo will buy one somewhere else if they don't have it. And retailers like Gamestop are counting on people trading in older PSPs and games towards the PSPGo.
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