For some reason, I am seemingly alone in feeling that the Wii version of Resident Evil 4 is inferior to the original Gamecube version. It looks about the same despite "true widescreen support", it adds no additional content whatsoever beyond what was available in the PS2 version, but most importantly, the Wiimote greatly impairs the experience in several ways, which I explained in my hands-on earlier this year. Since IGN and Gamespot thought the game "totally rocked man!!!!1", my opinion was naturally overturned and discredited. Nevermind the fact that everyone who played the game at the Capcom event eventually got frustrated and quit. Those other sites must have tried it out when I wasn't looking.
Luckily, for people who wish to get their RE on the way it was meant to be rather than conforming to gimmicks and meaningless PR double-talk, Capcom is preparing a bundle of Biohazardy goodness for the Playstation 2 to be released this Fall. For the price of Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, buyers will receive Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Code Veronica X, and Resident Evil Outbreak (which may as well just be named Gun Survivor Online, minus the "Online" since that service was cancelled some time ago). Still, RE4 and Code Veronica were two of the best games in the series, and that's saying quite a bit considering Resident Evil was what finally broke me out of my Sega Saturn fanboyism and got me (and by me, I mean your mom) to buy a Playstation.
I know that using a controller or a Wiimote all comes down to personal preference, but if you have both systems and missed out on either of these two masterpieces, the PS2 bundle is the way to go. Plus you'll be doing yourself and everyone else a favor by teaching Nintendo and Capcom that they can't just throw Wiimote functionality onto the same old shizzle and expect it to sell like crack in the ghetto. I mean they can, but that's only because people are stupid, and crack is really, really, really addictive.
[Thanks to Adam Dork for the tip. He still thinks "crack" means pancakes. Shhh!]
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8:58 PM on 06.11.2007
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/sigh the gimmick argument. if it enhances the gameplay/fun... to me it isnt a gimmick. Also, the game is priced down.
06/11/2007 21:36
Outbreak isn't like Gun Survivor....it is like Resident Evil but with buddies and in the form or episodic content.
From a gameplay standpoint, you're right. But from a quality standpoint, it's another story. It may take place in Racoon City with zombies, but that's as far as the "it's just like Resident Evil!" argument can go. The load times are horrendous, the game is so sluggishly slow it would put you to sleep if you weren't so upset with disappointment, and without the online portion it's pretty much the worst "RE" game out there next to Gun Survivor.
I played the GC version of RE4 relentlessly. I beat it, then started over again immediately until I had beat it two more times. I am very familiar with the GC control scheme, and it works perfectly. Anyone who can't aim quickly and accurately with a controller and a laser sight is either disabled or just poor at playing these types of games. I know that the Wii is targeted towards children and retirement homes, but for the RE enthusiast, the Wiimote introduces a number of disadvantages that simply aren't there in the original versions. Does it outright break the game? That's open to interpretation, but it takes more away than it adds.
On the other hand, if you've never played RE4 and are dead set on having something to put in your Wii, maybe you will get use to it and never know the difference.
1) PS2 extras. I have played the PS2 version a little bit. But after playing the GC version so much, I really started to see the little things that are missing and felt some of the atmosphere missing. Playing the PS2 version just made me want to go back and play the GC version.
2) The Wii control sounds like a fun way to change up the game play. That plus the fact that the knife is more combat functional should make for some interesting runs. And in the end, if I don't like the control, it does have GC controller compatibility. So it's really a win/win situation... for me.
someday...someday
Don't even get me started on the fact that you have to pay an obscene amount of money for a "classic controller" to enjoy games like RE or Zelda properly (two games designed specifically for the Gamecube, with Wii functionality tacked on as an afterthought to sell more copies). What if the buyer doesn't own a GC? Why would they have a GC controller?
I know it sounded clever when you were thinking it up, but... no. The point I'm getting tired of trying to make is that it has nothing to do with whether or not you can use a different input device, it's the fact that using the Wiimote does not make this game better.
I would have much rather have preferred to see Tofu make an appearance, personally.
IGN has had a copy of it for a while now, and they are still praising it for the most part.
Classic controller is not expensive. Do you think it should be 9.99?
Having said that i will pick this up when I see a used version because I already beat the CG version...I just want the extras...
This just in, the Wii is the only system with a pretend controller
Anyways, for people that have never played RE4 on any console, I think this is sweet. I find it funny that the hardcore RE4 fanboys seem to be complaining that because they've played through it 400+ times on every console that it came out for, that they couldn't possibly enjoy it again on a new medium. Wow, I wish i was THAT hardcore...
let me state the I dont own a Wii and never plan too.
But your Absolutely right. But I have put some of the blame squarely on Nintendo for half-stepping with thier own console/controller. They show a great lack of belief in thier Wii-mote by letting these games use multiple conntrollers. "Sure you can play RE4 with the Wii-mote, but.... if that sucks weve got these too". not exactly instilling a lot of confidence.
If you already own it for GC and don't want to play the additional content, don't buy it. No problem there. If you never owned it for cube, pick it up for Wii at a cheap price and choose your controller, it's a great game regardless of which controller you use. So no problem there. If you owned it for GC and want the PS2 content, pick it up and use your GC controller, or try the Wii controls for fun. I don't see the downside here.
And @grapefruit,
""Sure you can play RE4 with the Wii-mote, but.... if that sucks weve got these too"."
Welcome to the Wii. It's for EVERYbody. That means options. Hardcore gamers, oldschool gamers, new style control, old style control. Everything will be represented at some point. The good games (especially those marketed towards mulitple demographics) will give you some options. They have to keep in mind that some gamers may not be ready for indepth 3D controls because they are clinging to their last gen pads, much like the atari guys did back in the day when the D-pad came along. Did they call the d-pad gimmicky? Yep. Look at the smash brothers game. They are supporting 4 control schemes, is it because one of them sucks? I doubt it, I think options are a good thing. They want to give us choices. Me? I'll try each control scheme to see which I like best and go from there.
Oh, and this gem?
"I think the 'argument' is; why should I have to buy a GC or Classic controler to get the most out of a game. "
Ok, why should I have to buy an internet connection to get the most out of Halo or Resistance? Your argument is flawed.
You dont have to buy a controller to get the most out of the game. You have to buy a controller if you want to use that controller. As far as I can tell, all the content will be accessible with the Wii-remote. You don't need anything else to get everything this game has to offer. Nice try, but a little lame.
How can you blame Nintendo for Capcom utilizing the different controllers? Are you suggesting that Nintendo start policing game developers on what they can and can't develop? And furthermore, I seriously doubt they (nintendo) half-stepped anything with the Wiimote, since they started developing the concept years ago. The games I have played on the Wii so far are very responsive. I mean try Trauma Center: Second Opinion and tell me then if you still think Nintendo half-stepped their Wiimote.
Nice BBcode. Very nice.
Nintendo has hedged thier bets with thier controller as well (smash brothers anyone).
and Nintendo has quite the history of strong arming 3rd parties, pushing a little qaulity control on Wii-mote use couldnt hurt.
much like the atari guys did back in the day when the D-pad came along. You just made my point. If I can quote PappaDukes "If you don't want to use the Wiimote functionality, then why the hell would you own a Wii to begin with?"
"all the content will be accessible with the Wii-remote." I wasnt talking about content, son. I was talking about the ability to play the game with a full measure of control. And again youre making my point; "You dont have to buy a controller to get the most out of the game." Then why I ask, again, are the other controllers offered? and not just an old controller grandfathered onto the Wii, but a brand new controller made just for the Wii?
and this gem;
"Welcome to the Wii. It's for EVERYbody."
Ive got a short story about the Wii being for everybody. Wrong.
However, I'll defend Outbreak. Outbreak was the pen and paper rpg of the group. The game stressed "creativity" and "storytelling" above RE4's "how many things can I kill in a combo" gameplay. I love RE4, but I that while the game may have saved a failing franchise, its also doomed it to a twitch gameplay facility.
Nothing was scary about RE4... nothing. Once I learned to play the extra modes, which instructed me on how to wade through 70 zombies with only a knife and a bow... the real game became incredibly boring.
If you ever got the chance to get really involved with Outbreak, you might have seen it as amazing. Communication really wasn't an issue for those who played as A) I really don't want to hear the other players cheetto stained breath shouting "ZOMG I DODGED HIM, HAX!" every time they got bit. Its called roleplaying. While I understand that my teammate CloudforLife17 is really some yaoi obsessed fangirl, when she plays the game, she was Cindy, Brad, Mark... whoever she chose.
B) I was scared shitless. Communication was locational. I could only "hear" what people near me said. That being said, if you got separated from me, I might honestly have no idea where you are. Players get lost, only to find themselves looking and listening for their teammates yelling their names. The scenario of getting lost, then hearing gunfire off in the distance (a map away) still scares me.
Yeah, sure, loading sucked, but remember it was a slow paced game, not a high speed headshot orgy. Man I loved that game.
P.S. Sucks that none of that will ever happen again, since the online is gone.
And Im the fanboy???
Your like Dick Cheney with a shot-gun; missing the point.
1. I'm not your son.
2. The wii-mote will provide a full measure of control. In fact, it will provide more control. Aiming your gun in a shooter is far more control than aligning an analog stick to the proper x/y coordinates on a plane. Get with the program.
And this gem: "Then why I ask, again, are the other controllers offered? "
Read my other post. I laid it out there. Nintendo isn't hedging, they are stupidly trying to appease whiny gamers like yourself by including old school control schemesm, thus the everybody, cry babies and all. They know some brains work slower than others and it may be a few generations of games before the Wii-mote makes sense to some people.
Im more then happy too agree that the Wii-mote makes a terrific 'light-gun'. bully for them.
the rest of your post is so fundamentally retarded, I'll let it speak for itself.
You don't. Period. Please try again.
No amount of spin can keep your comments from failing.
It's been said a dozen times but you ignore it. This game may not be geared towards those who already own it. That being the case, its a pretty good buy and some people may want it.
Several people on these forums who own it seem to think it will be worth the money. What is it about you that forces you to blast something that you don't want?
But, there were two Outbreak games and now that online is all the rage I would expect a next-gen installment sooner or later. Hopefully they can include everything that made the series worth checking out, and overcome everything that made it all so disappointing.
god forbid I make comments in the <gasp!> Comments Section. How rude of me. I beg forgiveness.
WAH... my opinion should be more credible than others opinions, but nobody listens to me, because we all know people are stupid...WAH!!!
Seriously, there's a lot of Wii sniping at DTOID, so why the hell would anybody take you seriously regarding anything Wii related? Whatever valid criticisms you have are lost in the constant flow of general Wii bashing that goes on here.
I don't go to Fox News for political information and I don't come here for Wii info..it's all too predictable.
Your article gets downright petty when you say that the PS2 version is RE4 the way it's meant to be. Right. Shitty graphics is exactly what RE4 was supposed to be.
When it comes down to it, it sounds to me like all the "faults" you found with the Wii version only serve to make the game more difficult. Good. As someone who's played through the game a few times, it needs to be more challenging if it is going to hold my interest.
If you guys wanna keep bashing the Wii, fine. Bash away. You don't get the appeal and I get that. But stop pissing and moaning about how everybody is stupid for not taking your biased reviews more seriously.