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Reselling games is a distinct element of videogame culture. After all, gruesome $60 price tags for a new product force those with a tight budget to turn their older games onto a site like Goozex or...gasp...sell it to GameStop. Unfortunately, flipping those games rarely results in a satisfactory exchange.

So are there really any more options for people who want to sell or exchange a game? Last week, a new upstart called SwitchGames got in contact with us. Not only is it a peer-to-peer reselling service, there is one element that sets it off from the pack: you can donate a portion of your game earnings back to the developers who made the game.

If that doesn't make you tilt your head sideways and look like a puppy, I don't know what will. Hit the jump for more, and responses from SwitchGames' founder, Jason Crawford.

Set up in 2002, SwitchGames was really nothing more than a database of videogames that Jason Crawford and his friends kept of titles that they would be willing to trade for. Soon even strangers were using the database, and it became clear that they would need to move to the next phase in the service. In early 2009, SwitchGames became a vendor site for those looking to buy, sell, and trade their games.

One of my initial questions about SwitchGames was how pricing was going to function. Too often, either GameStop buys a game at a criminally low price and then turns it over for a huge profit, or a site like Goozex sets the standard for the value of a game, and you have to earn a certain amount of points to "buy" those used games. Only eBay has really allowed all personal vendors to set their own prices any way they please. SwitchGames promises to take this approach, allowing people to sell their products at the price they choose. However, Switch Games also keeps people well aware of the average selling price of the game through a pricing tool. 

Also, as a throwback to the original days of the site, players can still trade their games instead of buying and selling. For those asking about hardware and accessories, SwitchGames currently allows the trading of them, and the buying option for these products is on the way.



As a store, SwitchGames is a harmless and convenient service to sell your games for a higher price than other stores, and a place where you can buy used games for a lower price. This is all well and good, but the most interesting feature is its donation service.

As Crawford says, “Our mission from day one has been to empower gamers and cut out the middleman. After hearing so much debate about whether or not publishers and developers should share in the used game business, we wanted to give individual gamers direct control over the issue.” Direct control means that, should players want to send a couple bucks from the money they earned back to the publisher, they can do so!

Sending cash back to the publisher of the game is entirely optional. However, according to Crawford, what's really impressive is that about 10 percent of those who sell games throw some extra cash back to the publisher. For those afraid that the real people behind a game, the developers, wouldn't see a penny, you are in luck.

Crawford mentions that “publishers are not under any type agreement with our company. However, we do offer developers a free contract provision, which we encourage them to include in their agreements with publishers.” This little form means that the developer receives a percentage of any profit a publisher makes from a resale on SwitchGames.



I'm sure many reading this would think that donation to a game publisher and developer is an incredulous idea. Devs and publishers have already received their cut of the profit when the game was first sold. I asked Crawford about using earnings to donate to charities as an alternative, and it may be something to come in the future. “We've talked about helping non-profits quite a bit,” said Crawford. “It falls into a slightly bigger idea we have for working with a few specific game-related charities. We're still very much in the planning stages for this.” Keep your fingers crossed that an organization like Child's Play might be able to share in these transactions.

What if publishers offered incentives for donations? “Publisher donations are just one example of how we aim to establish a direct path between gamers and publishers.” Crawford continues that they are open to ideas on how to make SwitchGames work: “We look forward to hearing suggestions from gamers, publishers, and developers.” Unfortunately, it doesn't look like there will be any sort of third-party version of “Club Nintendo” through SwitchGames anytime soon.

It is very interesting to see how long this distribution model can function. Peer-to-peer sales is no new method of exchange, but a marketplace designed with gamers in mind is a great resource. It is  incredulous that such a service would allow gamers to donate to the publishers. This is clearly a new take on resales.

Ultimately, SwitchGames is entering an interesting era. With games costing more than ever, a new resource for resales would surely fit a niche, and the donation option is clearly a service for someone somewhere. This is something that has never been done before. While many would question the true value of such a donation, I'm willing to let people have the choice. That in itself is something that makes SwitchGames different.

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Shoop's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 20:13
Shoop
So you're not really giving the developer much of anything, just the publisher? That sounds like a great idea
the Golden Avatar's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 20:14
the Golden Avatar
Why on earth would I want to do that?
Flake's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 20:26
Flake
...yeah, the publisher already got paid. They didn't make anything; just sold someone else's work. If you could ensure that the developers, artists, and programmers got the money then you'd have a proposal.
Mr. Leo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 20:31
Mr. Leo
Nice, gonna try it out.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 20:31
hpv
I've got to say that's a pretty terrible idea. If there's a middleman you should be trying to take out it is the publishers themselves.
Primee133's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 20:35
Primee133
I'm pretty damn sure Legendary isn't worth 20$..
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 20:39
Chris Carter
"Unfortunately, flipping those games rarely results in a satisfactory exchange."

You MAKE $5 by trading away a new game within a month of release on Goozex.

That's right folks! You GET $65 in trade credit in total. Or, two months after release, you can still trade in Bayonetta for $60.

Goozex is most definitely the best option for the time being.
tdk08's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 20:42
tdk08
Let's not forget about Glyde! Best one I've used yet!
rockstarnati's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 20:59
rockstarnati
They wanna charge me 5 bucks to sell stuff? F this.
TheJesusNinja26's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 20:59
TheJesusNinja26
Goozex burned me last month. Never giving me my shipping label I paid for. Then never replied to my customer service email. I'm done with Goozex. If you ignore your customers, I'm done using your business. This looks like the perfect solution. Bye bye Goozex
dj-anon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 21:01
dj-anon
The donation concept is fundamentally flawed, the money should go directly to the developers and not the publisher.
KupoCheer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 21:53
KupoCheer
It's a great idea, but I'm pretty sure that publishers still want you to pay full price. I also can't wait 'till they start trying to dictate how much of the cut they get back.

And yeah, giving it to the publishers only means they get *more* of the money that should be going to the hard working developers.
SleepyInsomniac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 21:59
SleepyInsomniac
I checked it out and I like the concept of just straight-up trading games.
iluvalima's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 22:19
iluvalima
I rarely buy games anymore and I don't really trust people, so I'll just stick to gamefly. I have no problem selling games to GS. I currently have +400 in credit that I may use on a ps3.
CoruptAI125's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 22:49
CoruptAI125
Interesting but I made a personal pact to NEVER sell any of my games again. Even if I hate them(Alone in The Dark!)
NicoBellandi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 22:56
NicoBellandi
Sweet!I'll give this a gander later on!
8BitGrit's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 23:31
8BitGrit
I've used Switchgames for trading in the past and it's worked pretty well. You get to trade directly with other people. I didn't know they started this buying and selling so I'm glad this article was posted. I might give to publishers on certain games but only if it's DAMN good. If anyone wants to trade, my gamer page is: http://www.switchgames.com/gamer/psycholarry
BlackFreefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 23:33
BlackFreefall
Wait tell me again why would I want to give back to the publisher and not the developer?
Ninja Cameraman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 23:34
Ninja Cameraman
I had SwitchGames delete my account way back when D-toid was doing those Goozex contests because it was still a trade site but they were undermining the sales pitch about how cheap it was to trade with the $5 protection crap.

The new format looks interesting but seeing as they were in beta with the FIRST version of the system for 2 years... I'll stick with Goozex
Bjorn The Unicorn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 23:38
Bjorn The Unicorn
This system must be hard for Bioshock 2.
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 23:41
Drakengard
Cool concept, but its still not what publishers or devs truly want. DD is still coming and so are those potential 'if you buy a used game you have an activation fee' concepts are still likely really near...which really, really sucks.
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 00:03
Dyson
I heard this site has a game trading forum ;)
Enossir's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 00:58
Enossir
my games only cost 49.99 on release (TOTAL after tax)

dont know what you noobs are talking about
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 01:09
pedrovay2003
I just made an account. This looks like it's a HELL of a lot easier to use than Goozex, which I STILL haven't figured out yet.
SullyE's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 01:44
SullyE
LOL. Legendary; such an awful game.
necrozen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 01:51
necrozen
goozex is better
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 02:00
Kyle MacGregor
I'm kind of pissed off at Goozex. Everything I want has super long waiting lists or has a short list but no one has it because its super obscure. Either way, I get nothing.

I'm pretty sure that someone received my copy of Scribblenauts, is lying to me and refuses to give me the points as well.

I haven't made many trades on the forum here at Dtoid, but everything that I have done has been super fast and great. Someone even gave me a free copy of Killer 7 because it took him a few extra days to get it to me. Unfortunately most everyone just wants to trade PS2 and 360 games...2 systems that I lack.

Maybe this site has goods for a PS3 and Gamecube user like myself.
Mattchewie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 02:21
Mattchewie
I tried switchgames back when it was just a game trade site (kinda like goozex but no points, just one for one game trades). I loved the idea but REALLY quick like it was obvious that most of the user base still put a monetary value behind the game and getting users to trade for games that they had on their request queues was IMPOSSIBLE. After two weeks of trying to get just ONE of my games traded with out success, I removed all my items and went back to goozex.

The reason I did this was cause I could still ship games, get points...pool them and then redeem them when ever I wanted to.

Now that switch games has the selling option it might get better but man, it was a let down when it was just trade.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 04:30
Sexualchocolate
So if someone buys MW2 on there, and donates a little to the "developer" it goes to Activision, who will never pass it on to Infinity Ward because there's no way Activision would let them include "a free contract provision" in their iron clad "fuck you over if you so much as look the wrong way" contracts.

I just wish we could buy games directly from developers.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 09:51
manasteel88
I disagree with the money going directly to the dev team. That seems like it would take too much work to get every single dev house to sign up. Giving it to the publishers and having the check labeled with the development studios games would be a great way of showcasing how the dev teams sales are going in the long term and will hopefully work to increase their pay on a future project.
silvain's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 11:11
silvain
Money going to the publisher is a fail. I'd give the dev money, but the publisher/developer model is severely broken, and it's everybody's fault.
teke367's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:15
teke367
Came here to say glyde.com as well. Switchgames can do older systems though, I don't think Glyde doesn't any system older than PS2
Lunacy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 16:10
Lunacy
I read developer instead of publisher, until the line about how publishers are "encouraged" to pass some money on to the developers. That was when I stopped to think about publishers I'd actually want my money to go to, and there are a lot less than developers I'd give money to. Off the top of my head, the list pretty much amounts to Atlus, but I don't pay much attention to publishers normally.

@manasteel88: Good point about being able to keep track of the sales through that, though. Still doesn't make me want to give my money to EA, Activision, Capcom, Ubisoft, etc. etc.
peelsHere's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/30/2010 20:54
peelsHere
I'm the developer of a local game trading site that's in open beta called GamesToSwap http://www.gamestoswap.com It runs on appengine and it's free. If you like the trading idea but don't want to wait for the mail or use points it might be good for you. The community is just getting going and we're just starting to get it seo/indexed, but there are a few thousand people and games in there already. Check it out and let us know what you think.
m3rcurymorbid's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 13:50
m3rcurymorbid
This sounds interesting, but personally, I always use Swaptree. The downside is you get stupid trades sometimes, but the upside is, sometimes you can trade some lame DVD for a Ps2 game or whatever.
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