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Last night's announcement of PlayStation 3 gaining Netflix streaming functionality in November was a big one, and even though it seemed inevitable, I still found myself a bit surprised. As someone who has used Instant Watch on his Xbox 360 time and time again, I can't help but feel excited for my PS3-owning friends.

One curious part of the PS3 Netflix deal, however, was the inclusion of a required disc that needs to remain in the console during movie streaming. What's the deal with it? Your guess is as good as mine.

The good news is that G4TV has confirmed with Netflix VP of corporate communications Steve Swasey that these discs will only be for the short term. As soon as the company releases an "embedded solution," similar to how Xbox 360 streaming is set up, the discs can go in the trash can.

It sounds like Netflix wanted to make its wacky assortment of Instant Watch movies available to PS3 owners as quickly as possible, hence the discs. Lastly, while I had just assumed this was the case already, HD streaming was also confirmed.


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Kalakaua's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:11
Kalakaua
Yay! Another way for me to get netflix... now I can cancel my Tivo subscription when I want without worrying about my streaming access. And I still won't need to pay for gold access to my live account. Good news indeed.
rsquad's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:13
rsquad
Awesome. I'll just have to upgrade to a PSN gold accou...wait..oh, that's right! PSN is free. Double win!
SneakerElph's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:18
SneakerElph
I've already requested my disc, and i'll be holding on to it when they're not required in the hopes that it'll one day be a collector's item :-)
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:19
Xzyliac
Man PSN owners are really running that PSN is free thing into the ground aren't they?

Well I'm just glad I can get Netflix running throughout the house. I might actually move the 360 downstairs and the Slim I keep saying I'm gonna get (swear to God after Lego Rock Band it's my purchase, SWEAR!) in my room.
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:25
Necros
I've got this running on my 360 already, but I suppose I'll order up that free disc just for the hell of it. Can never have too many options, especially if Xbox Live were to go down randomly.
Oncomouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:27
Oncomouse
While there are other perks, the Netflix streaming is what pushed me into getting a gold account. I literally just renewed my gold membership two days ago. Had I known about this, I wouldn't have renewed. There's $50 down the toilet.
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:34
linuxguy
hey sony! now would be a good time for a firmware update
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:49
Midgetsnowman
Who wants to bet all the Sony Defense Force types badmouthing streaming compared to bluray mysteriously switch sides now?
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:53
pedrovay2003
@Midgetsnowman

People badmouthed streaming and praised Blu-ray? Wouldn't streaming be just as HD, but with no physical media? Makes sense to me.
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:54
aaronf
@Midgetsnowman:

Blu-Ray will always trump Netflix streaming as far as quality goes, so by "switching sides" you would have to somehow believe that Netflix streaming is better quality. Which is absurd. Which is why your prediction is fail.
RenagadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 20:03
RenagadePanda
A disc...to stream a movie. Doesn't that seem a little redundant? It's my fault, really, I was under the impression that we live in 2009. You know, an 'age of technology.' Regardless, this doesn't affect me since I don't watch or give a crap about movies.
whateverthismeanstoyou's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 20:09
whateverthismeanstoyou
So why even bother with the disc if you already know the shelf life is limited? It is a bonehead move. They could have announced then release the full app properly. Like someone said in another forum, here comes the beginning of BD-live ready "content-less" disc release!
Deny Everything's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 20:19
Deny Everything
The disc is free. It's pretty obvious this is a work around the Microsoft deal until it runs out (apparently) in late 2010. I don't really see what the complain is about the disc. Are you typically putting something else there?
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 20:30
Jon B
@aaronf
You say that like almost all of the SDF's predictions aren't a load of fail.

This is good news for PS3 owners, I guess. Especially when coupled with stuff like iPlayer.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 20:36
BluDesign
Hey morons wondering why there's a disc and not a web based solution at the 'mo... Netflix runs on Silverlight which does not run on the PS3. And considering that the alloted RAM the browser gets on the PS3 anyway I'd bet buffered playback through the browser would be as mediocre as Hulu was on the PS3.

Personally I'd bet that they'd had this solution ready for awhile and had a decent backstock of Blu Rays ready for this very reason while some exclusivity contracts had to run their course.

I bet we'll see wii netflix by next year.

Frankly anyone boasting that it's better because it's free on PSN really didn't pay attention to why xbox Live is worth paying for anyway.

Better matching persistent game support ( unless you're chromehounds), cross game chat support, a more coherently developed online service overall. Sonys spent the better part of 3 years playing catchup with patches and unintegrated half-solutions to make the experience of "free" slightly more bearable.
deadline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 20:51
deadline
YES!!! My XBL Gold Subscription is expiring in November so this is happening just in time :)
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 21:03
runtheplacered
@ BluDesign,

You said "I bet" three times during your rant. Which translates to, "I have no fucking clue in reality." I guess I have a knack for smelling fanboys miles away.. been doing it for years.

As for PSN.. it works perfectly fine for me. I've never once had any problems doing what it is I wanted to do. You're going to have a real hard time getting me to be persuaded that I should give a shit about that minor detail when the PS3 appears to really be getting its shit together in every single department.

Your Xbox is no less of a console then it was before the Ps3 got Netflix. So, try not to cry yourself to sleep too hard tonight.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 21:04
runtheplacered
BTW, this is coming from somebody who owns all of the consoles and handhelds and a nice gaming rig. I don't give two shits about which system is "on top" at the moment. Which gives me a real nice vantage point to spot fangirls.
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 21:22
Midgetsnowman
@Aaronf: My point was that the main reason most sony fanboys supported Bluray and badmouthed Streaming as absolutely horrible and useless was because of which format was used by which console. I expect all of a sudden HD streaming wont be a evul villain
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 21:24
Midgetsnowman
@Runtheplacered: No offense. but the "I have all 3 consoles therefore I'm definitely not biased" argument is absolutely moronic. You'd know this if you ever saw the shit idiots posted under that aegis on fanboy friday.
GameBrahma's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 21:26
GameBrahma
That's good, because I was about to say *cough cough #FAIL!
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 22:23
BluDesign
@runtheplacewhateverthefuckthatmeans

Um... Yeah. You've never met me before have you?

I... also own all three major consoles, have owned an Xbox, PS2, Dreamcast, Gamecube, Saturn, SNES, NES, N64, and pretty much every major console that's been out on the market.

I also don't play favorites and I'm also not a fanboy. And I'm also a GINORMOUS ASSHOLE TO PEOPLE I'VE NEVER MET IN REAL LIFE. Just like you. :D

The "bet" part is partly because neither you, me, or anyone else in here knows for sure. And it's also partly because I post mostly from my phone, so I tend to repeat things sometimes to cut down on how much time I spend typing on the damn tiny ass keyboard.

So, if you've got time to spare tonight in your vast expanse of consoles you own to be abrasive for no better reason than to spur people's social advances towards you and just being miserable all by yourself... Maybe you can answer a question.

What makes you think I'm a fanboy?

Was it stating a list of valid reasons that it's worth continuing to pay for Xbox Live? Was it pointing out that Netflix isn't running on the PS3 because the browser lacks support for a special plugin that Microsoft made to sell for specialty video applications on the web? Maybe it was because there's fucking EVIDENCE that a video delivery service similar to Netflix on the Wii is at least being developed?

Cause I took a bit of time to speak to each of those points. All three consoles deserve Netflix. It's a fantastic feature and it's retarded that it was mired in a exclusivity contract to keep it away from other console owners. I'd stick the Instant Watch service on my cock if it meant I'd be able to watch streaming Netflix when I'm in my refractory period.

I'm sure it's none of those, though. Maybe it was my name. Sorry I couldn't cater to everyone, but BluHDDVDStreamingVODDesign.264 just felt weird as a user name.

I'm sure its your sense of self-entitlement to be REALLY abrasive since you're new here in hopes of connecting with someone in some small hope that we'll all refer to you as the "#1 asshole on Destructoid".

Well guess what buddy? There's several thousand other assholes all vying for that same title and you're about 3 years late to this party. Get in line with the rest of us. Robert Summa left the site without naming a proper successor.
dwolfwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 22:31
dwolfwood
Too bad I looked at the list of movies you can stream and was totally unimpressed. Seriously, I wanna e-slap anyone who ever claimed "360 is better cause it has netflix." No offense to those who didn't but still own a 360.

Talked to a friend who would use another person's account sometimes and said it was really hard to find movies worth watching most the time, and I can totally see his point.

Not to shit on anyone's parade, but I don't have much time for movies, so when I see something like this, I expect there to be day-1 releases, or at least comparable to the PSN's video store.

I can see why Sony has no need to worry about netflix imposing on PSN's video store's sales.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 22:49
BluDesign
@dwolf

I use it as part of a mix of stuff to watch. My instant queue is full of old crappy movies that'll never see the light of day on Blu Ray and I don't really want to own. Some are crap movies, some are old classics, others are stuff I haven't seen in forever and would want to see again before i decide if I'd want to own it again.

It has it's good points. Having the majority of South Park up there constantly is nice too when I don't feel like sitting at my computer all day on the SPStudios website. Same with Doctor Who, old Star Trek, Lost reruns, Quantum Leap, most Discover Channel documentaries. Penn and Teller's Bullshit? That's worth it right there.

But, with a mix of this, getting a steady flow of MST3K DVD's and cartoons through the mail with snailmail Netflix, and all the streaming media stuff I've got shared between my 360 and my PS3, life's good when you've got options of how to survive without paying for cable. If only they'd natively re-enable Hulu on the PS3 then I'd be a lot happier.
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 22:50
Blasto
^^ Because it costs $8.99 a month, duh.
HerosPlayDumb's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 22:58
HerosPlayDumb
I love when fanboys get in my Destructoid.
makesfive's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 23:08
makesfive
love how fast the comments derailed into more xbox vs ps3 bullshit. I'm just excited I'll be able to get Netflix working on my PS3 without having to route it through a media server. And that the Netflix people seem eager and interested in working with people to get it on the PS3 even if Sony's a bit slow on the draw with firmware updates.
Crunshiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 00:02
Crunshiii
lol baw..... flame fight without me :( o well, While Netflicker w/e is nice and all, I will go back to watching FREE movies on watchfreemovielinks for FREE and guess what... Netflix cant play whats on the actual theaters :(

Sorry, im a super happy camper with the PSN in all corners.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 00:29
brainderailment
DvdDesi.., I mean BluDesign is definitely not a playstation fanboy.

Also, think about how it Sony has to update the firmware to support this new feature natively, which means a new build. Hopefully the disk solution will only last a month or so.
mrandydixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 00:43
mrandydixon
"As soon as the company releases an "embedded solution," similar to how Xbox 360 streaming is set up, the discs can go in the trash can."

Great, more disposable shit to fill up the landfill. I'll be waiting for that firmware update just out of principal.
MrLefty's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 00:45
MrLefty
It couldn't be to stop us international users from accessing it, could it? I mean, we can create a US PSN account pretty easily at the moment.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 01:40
brainderailment
@MrAndyDixon, you do realize that the disks that don't get sent out (they will print more than enough) will be thrown out whether you order one or not?
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 05:53
TheToiletDuck
Ahh that's good that it's temporary. I didn't realise that netflix on 360 ran on silverlight.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 07:25
BluDesign
I don't know if the 360 solution runs on Silverlight, but I know the Web based version of Netflix streaming runs on Silverlight.

The 360 is using Silverlight to run those fantastic moving ads on the NXE.

@MrLefty

It'd be pretty easy to bypass that too. USPS post office boxes, paypal credit cards... All pretty easy to bypass. I'd wagerthey're going to be able to do IP filtering since it's running through a browser in BD-Live
Carlton Banks's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 07:52
Carlton Banks
BluDesign forgot PSN is 3yrs old and is offering 90% of what it took MS 6yrs to develop. Not having to pay to play online or FB or Tweet or Netflix is better than having to pay. Period. And name ANY 360 that accurtely uses it's matchmaking. Haha. You can't be that blind.
Gilgamesh1317's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 09:40
Gilgamesh1317
But is it coming to Europe?

Until that day comes (and odds are it never will), I can't and won't give a shit about this Netflix stuff.
banzairx7's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 12:07
banzairx7
Seriously has the world been living under a rock? You've been able to stream Netflix to a PS3 forever using PlayOn. The selection for Netflix streaming is down right horrendous anyway so why is this such big news? I subscribed for two months and then cancelled.
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 12:26
whormongr
@banzairx7 I have been using playon myself- I will be glad when it is native since you have to update the server so often (there is usually an update every week or so to fall in line with new code from either hulu netflix or both), actually netflix is really good for tv shows since it takes forever to watch a series through the mail vs. instantly having x amount of seasons on the network-
mrandydixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/27/2009 17:34
mrandydixon
@brainderailment

That's a good defense. You should represent Nazi war criminals. "Your honor, even if my client had decided not to murder the Jews, they would have eventually died off anyway."

I try not to contribute to wastefulness out of principal. Just because it will happen regardless of my actions doesn't mean I need to condone or encourage it.

Oh, and I was only kidding. I'm already a Netflix customer. Of course I'm going to order the disc.
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