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Not really because the smartphone and gaming markets are completely different. There is obviously more of a blur these days thanks to apple's app store but in reality you can't play Zelda or Monster Hunter on your iphone. The line will just keep blurring, maybe next generation will see them come together.
Need moar info please. I want specs dammit! Screens of something, ahhhhhhhhhh I must decide between this or a 3DS. Leaning towards a 3DS based on price and nostalgia. Something tells me the psp2 will be 350 or more.
A phone and a handheld are two different markets Jonathan. I higly doubt that someone has ever thought, 'well I have an iPod Touch so why would I want a DS or PSP?'
3G= outside your house / where you get reception.
Home wifi or LAN = only at home or linked hotspot like psp to ps3.
Home wifi or LAN = only at home or linked hotspot like psp to ps3.
3G is like the 56k of the mobile internet and given we can just create WiFi hotspots just about anywhere with better speeds, why push 3G? 4G would make more sense, but even then who knows how long that holds before 5G rolls along
Just seems weird to me. I'll worry about my connection speed, Sony.
Just seems weird to me. I'll worry about my connection speed, Sony.
Why does the psp2 doesn't have phone support via headset or something? Instead you can go for a subpar ps phone. This sux...
What would be so great about 3G in consoles? >_<
Thats retarded...its called the internet, wi-fi, that crap
No 3G for systems, only portables.
Thats retarded...its called the internet, wi-fi, that crap
No 3G for systems, only portables.
3G, and a OLED screen is the rumor, so how expensive is this thing going to be? $400? I can't wait until Sony announces the price. It will make the 3DS look cheap in comparison. LOL!
Twice the Sony portables, twice the piracy. Win/Win for everybody involved*.
*Unless you're Sony, in that case you are FUCKED.
*Unless you're Sony, in that case you are FUCKED.
No choice to make for me as I just got a new Captivate phone over Christmas so I really couldn't care less about the phone.
And even if I WAS in the market for a new phone, I'd probably wait for the PSPhone2 or X or XD or whatever the hell the next update will be because initial release phones don't have a great track record.
And even if I WAS in the market for a new phone, I'd probably wait for the PSPhone2 or X or XD or whatever the hell the next update will be because initial release phones don't have a great track record.
What does anybody of these phone lingos mean? So many ads about Gs but having no clue what they mean.
Wait, so Gs can also be used for non-phone usage? Wait, PSP2 and Playstation Phone? Like, couldn't they just call it something else since Playstation means Sony gaming; I mean, it would imply that this phone main advantage would be gaming...but then that's suppose to be the PSP2's job...wow, this is more confusing then learning the rules of Inception.
Wait, so Gs can also be used for non-phone usage? Wait, PSP2 and Playstation Phone? Like, couldn't they just call it something else since Playstation means Sony gaming; I mean, it would imply that this phone main advantage would be gaming...but then that's suppose to be the PSP2's job...wow, this is more confusing then learning the rules of Inception.
3G on home consoles? There's WiFi for that... 3G is only needed when on-the-go.
If Sony matches the 3DS's price, we may have a serious contender. Can't wait!
If Sony matches the 3DS's price, we may have a serious contender. Can't wait!
sounds good to me :D
i think the choice with 3G is fine since japan has one of the fastest internet connection, don't know about 4G doing in japan, maybe it's not yet booming?
oh well as long as we get great games, no region lock bullshit, and UMD BC. it's all good :P
i think the choice with 3G is fine since japan has one of the fastest internet connection, don't know about 4G doing in japan, maybe it's not yet booming?
oh well as long as we get great games, no region lock bullshit, and UMD BC. it's all good :P
The biggest mistake Sony can make right now is making the PSP2 and the Playstation Phone separate entities. Sony is already wishy-washy about UMDs, by removing them from the PSPgo and then not supporting their own decision just a few months down the road. I mean, when the PSPgo was announced, we were all lead to believe that this was Sony's new flagship handheld, but just weeks after release, Sony was using the PSP-3000 in its ads, as if the 3000 were the top of the line.
If they're separate, then I won't get either. Which one will be abandoned or given worse treatment? Sony can't dip its toes into both pools and then half-ass them both. If the PSP phone IS the PSP2 that would be great. Android based software that'd play PSP2 games as well as games on the Android Marketplace would be fantastic. Sony could also release a non-phone version of it, similar to Apple's iPhone and iPod touch.
If they're separate, then I won't get either. Which one will be abandoned or given worse treatment? Sony can't dip its toes into both pools and then half-ass them both. If the PSP phone IS the PSP2 that would be great. Android based software that'd play PSP2 games as well as games on the Android Marketplace would be fantastic. Sony could also release a non-phone version of it, similar to Apple's iPhone and iPod touch.
@The Cast - 3G and 4G are just mobile internet speeds. 3G is like 56k, 4G like DSL if we're talking about tiers of other internet speeds.
4G is is more than adequate for online multiplayer and video streaming, but it would still sting compared to cable internet on download speeds. 3G is painfully slow for for streaming, downloading and online multiplayer, but good enough for web browsing on the go.
4G is is more than adequate for online multiplayer and video streaming, but it would still sting compared to cable internet on download speeds. 3G is painfully slow for for streaming, downloading and online multiplayer, but good enough for web browsing on the go.
3G would be for downloading games when on the go if outside a wi-fi zone for those who are asking. It would most likely be provided through a cell phone provider like AT&T. Its similar to the way the 3G Amazon Kindle works. Only we'd be using it to download games. There will be some kind of pricing for this I'm sure. Either monthly plans, or if its free they are going to tack it into the PSP2s price...
That being said I'm very excited about the PSP2. I really hope Sony gets it right. The PSP had a lot of flaws but it was Sony's first attempt in the handheld market, and everything considered I think it went well. I love my PSP. As for this PSP phone...I'm still holding my opinion.
That being said I'm very excited about the PSP2. I really hope Sony gets it right. The PSP had a lot of flaws but it was Sony's first attempt in the handheld market, and everything considered I think it went well. I love my PSP. As for this PSP phone...I'm still holding my opinion.
Its all going 2 come down to price when predicting sony's success with the psp2 here in the states. (It will most likely be successful in japan) with the ps3 costing 299, sony would be smart not to price it over 250, no matter what features it has....
Hopefully sony doesn't "psp-go" this one (what an overpriced piece of shit that thing was....or, is).
Hopefully sony doesn't "psp-go" this one (what an overpriced piece of shit that thing was....or, is).
What JQM78 said; hopefully Sony will just not try to use a gambit on brand alone but on price. Yeah, it may not make up for the amount of R&D anytime soon but they may be able to get their eventually if they apply a price that can compete with the DS and, perhaps, wow consumers more then what Nintendo is currently doing.
@Malik: You'd be surprised what some people can think. Several people had an iTouch/iPhone as their first handheld device, and given the average game price for the iOS platform severely undercuts both the DS and PSP, many probably wonder what the point is in a device that has buttons and is focused on playing games. Note that I said nothing of the iOS game quality, but many people are more than content to drop a buck or two on a game because it's cheap.
This thing is sounding more and more expensive. Either way, I'm sure it means game downloads through PSN won't take like an hour or two to download.
it's only confusing because most people call it the playstation phone.. if it were called Xperia Play then it would be different..
dont forget this is the Japanese market! phone service/carriers etc. are different over there.
once it comes to america, whos the carrier gonna be? sony ericsson isnt know around america. this is why i think it wont be a phone when it comes to over here.
or they better pick every carrier rather than stick to at&t or verizon cause its gonna be expensive.
once it comes to america, whos the carrier gonna be? sony ericsson isnt know around america. this is why i think it wont be a phone when it comes to over here.
or they better pick every carrier rather than stick to at&t or verizon cause its gonna be expensive.
I bet 4G would be coming on it's next iteration.
Has the author ever heard of the iphone and itouch.? Where as the psp 2 would be a much heavy on the gaming side.
Has the author ever heard of the iphone and itouch.? Where as the psp 2 would be a much heavy on the gaming side.
given the shitty support of the Ericsson Xperia x10 phone, i will be staying FAR AWAY from a playstation phone
@Jonathan Holmes, You might want to proof read that last paragraph; it's a hot mess. And I'm not sure if a Phone that will play games from an app store really is in competition with a handheld gaming device that will play PS3 games.
I'm not sure why so many people are having a hard time with this...
It supports 3G, which is a telecommunications network capable of delivering data to your device ANYWHERE. That means when you aren't at home, or there is no wifi hotspot around, you can still have access to the online features of your device, like updates, downloads and multiplayer. Seeing as the PSP2 is a PORTABLE console, you can see their line of reasoning for this move.
There are many countries that have a plethora of wifi hotspots, but there are an even larger number of countries that do not. Australia, for instance, has absolutely fuck all hotspots.
It's pretty much dirt cheap for manufacturers to have their device 3G enabled, but the real price point to worry about is how much they will charge per month for the service. So, HOPEFULLY, this move wont add too much on to the PSP2s price.
I'm interested in seeing where this device goes, it's power capability, and what games they launch it with. But I have my reservations after the flop of the pspGO.
It supports 3G, which is a telecommunications network capable of delivering data to your device ANYWHERE. That means when you aren't at home, or there is no wifi hotspot around, you can still have access to the online features of your device, like updates, downloads and multiplayer. Seeing as the PSP2 is a PORTABLE console, you can see their line of reasoning for this move.
There are many countries that have a plethora of wifi hotspots, but there are an even larger number of countries that do not. Australia, for instance, has absolutely fuck all hotspots.
It's pretty much dirt cheap for manufacturers to have their device 3G enabled, but the real price point to worry about is how much they will charge per month for the service. So, HOPEFULLY, this move wont add too much on to the PSP2s price.
I'm interested in seeing where this device goes, it's power capability, and what games they launch it with. But I have my reservations after the flop of the pspGO.
I would not want 3G on consoles. That service is slow as hell, there'd be lag everywhere. It's pretty neat for handhelds, though.
This is gonna over fucking huge in Japan. Don't know about the states. Either way, it does sound more and more like Sony knows their PSP market (the East) and are really targeting them.
I mean in Japan having a phone and does flipping everything is kind of the standard. In America as much as iPhones, Blackberries, and HTCs have begun to minimalize the amount of stuff we carry with us the mentality tht your phone is your phone and your handheld is your handheld still hasn't been broken. If it really is UMD-less with 3G support I question how well that'll do here in the states. In Japan though I'm sure they're so accustomed to it that it'll work.
I dunno. I do hope it's a good service though. The only people who can seem to nail digital distribution is Valve. XBLA and PSN fight for a very distant second place position.
I mean in Japan having a phone and does flipping everything is kind of the standard. In America as much as iPhones, Blackberries, and HTCs have begun to minimalize the amount of stuff we carry with us the mentality tht your phone is your phone and your handheld is your handheld still hasn't been broken. If it really is UMD-less with 3G support I question how well that'll do here in the states. In Japan though I'm sure they're so accustomed to it that it'll work.
I dunno. I do hope it's a good service though. The only people who can seem to nail digital distribution is Valve. XBLA and PSN fight for a very distant second place position.
The reason I want 3G in home consoles isn't so much for me, but for the download-only market in general, and the millions of people that are missing out on it. For tech savy people (like most of you, presumably), it's no big deal to get your console online. However, most "normal" people don't know and don't care about wireless routers, DSL, LAN, and the rest. They couldn't be bothered. If it's not instantaneous and effort free, they wont do it.
3G could change that. There would need to be some serious dealing with 3G service providers, and the cost would need to be very low (or better yet, folded into people's existing 3G plans on their smart phones) but it might be worth it. 3G could push download-only gaming from the fringe market it is today, to a leading force in the industry.
3G could change that. There would need to be some serious dealing with 3G service providers, and the cost would need to be very low (or better yet, folded into people's existing 3G plans on their smart phones) but it might be worth it. 3G could push download-only gaming from the fringe market it is today, to a leading force in the industry.
3g android apps, but it wont work for phone calls?
I hope people realize even an iphone with NO service account can run skype over 3g and 4g.
As usual, citizens should reject corporate attempts to steal functionality and create monopoly.
I hope people realize even an iphone with NO service account can run skype over 3g and 4g.
As usual, citizens should reject corporate attempts to steal functionality and create monopoly.
The fact that so many people are already considering the Xperia Play to be a gaming device only shows that the device is doomed. Which is a shame, because it sounds like it'll be doomed due to people trying to tie the two to the same demographic.
As far as the Xperia Play goes, there are still too many questions for me to say whether or not it'll succeed: unit price, carrier support and the cost of games on their custom marketplace all immediately come to mind.
As far as the Xperia Play goes, there are still too many questions for me to say whether or not it'll succeed: unit price, carrier support and the cost of games on their custom marketplace all immediately come to mind.
@readbigwordisgood: 3G in the story is for the PSP2. As far as we know, there is no Android for the PSP2.
The Playstation Phone is the thing running the Android OS. Depending on who Sony decides to saddle the phone with, it might be 3G or 4G. It will have some sort of Data connection though.
The Playstation Phone is the thing running the Android OS. Depending on who Sony decides to saddle the phone with, it might be 3G or 4G. It will have some sort of Data connection though.
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I know what you mean. Hell you crack a PSP and you can run Skype on it.
People in mass are not smart at all. Everything people need to know on making a PSP a phone is out there right now. Just got to look for it and apply it.
I know what you mean. Hell you crack a PSP and you can run Skype on it.
People in mass are not smart at all. Everything people need to know on making a PSP a phone is out there right now. Just got to look for it and apply it.
Hrmm... 3g support.. you don't say.
As a PSP owner who would actually defend the available software selection and the overall capabilities of the device, I just can't say I'm too enthused. Ever since I got my iPhone.. I just haven't had a use for my PSP. For those who knock iGames, the iPhone is damn near perfect for true-blue on the road/mobile gaming. The PSP almost feels like a console you lug around, and the games are seemingly designed with a console mentality. I honestly don't know how someone could just whip one out and start playing something.
3g support piques my interest, but I sincerely doubt it's enough to compensate for this problem.
As a PSP owner who would actually defend the available software selection and the overall capabilities of the device, I just can't say I'm too enthused. Ever since I got my iPhone.. I just haven't had a use for my PSP. For those who knock iGames, the iPhone is damn near perfect for true-blue on the road/mobile gaming. The PSP almost feels like a console you lug around, and the games are seemingly designed with a console mentality. I honestly don't know how someone could just whip one out and start playing something.
3g support piques my interest, but I sincerely doubt it's enough to compensate for this problem.
The problem is if you have to pay for the 3G, the feature is totally useless and just adding to the cost of the unit. That and 3G coverage varies by carrier, its SLOW and terrible for multiplayer.
If i do multiplayer on PSP, chances are I'm doing it locally or at home anyway and would be able to do so with a better connection.
I just smell Sony trying to sell something extra here.
@Holmes - Just because people can't be bothered to figure out how to set up a wireless router doesn't change the fact a chimp could figure it out. Why should the rest of us get stuck with added cost from an inferior networking option we may not even use?
And really, setting up wireless stuff for PSP and DS was a simple matter of touching a screen or pushing a button a couple times.
If i do multiplayer on PSP, chances are I'm doing it locally or at home anyway and would be able to do so with a better connection.
I just smell Sony trying to sell something extra here.
@Holmes - Just because people can't be bothered to figure out how to set up a wireless router doesn't change the fact a chimp could figure it out. Why should the rest of us get stuck with added cost from an inferior networking option we may not even use?
And really, setting up wireless stuff for PSP and DS was a simple matter of touching a screen or pushing a button a couple times.
Bleh, 3G is pretty slow anyway and you can just use your cell phone for that. If this is true, its just going to cause another unnecessary price increase for the system. Looks like Sony learned absolutely nothing from this gen. Nintendo may as well buy a chainsaw. The PSP2 is going to get absolutely mauled by the 3DS at this rate.
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