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Heavy Rain was an interesting experience, and to that extent, it probably is worth a play through to the average gamer, or at least the average PS3 owner. Just don't come expecting a coherent story, or a consistent sense of shared agency.
That's really cool of him. Respect++
I much rather to see developers voice admiration for their peers than stirring up shit, like that dirty Cave Story chap did not long ago.
I much rather to see developers voice admiration for their peers than stirring up shit, like that dirty Cave Story chap did not long ago.
I'm surprised a writer recommends it. I enjoyed the game but the writing was the worst part of Heavy Rain.
sorry I dont feel like playing a bad interactive movie that is Quote on Quote innovative because they say so. Heavy rain is so overated jsut like God of War and Halo.
I beat Heavy Rain for the first time over the weekend and have to say I was really impressed with game overall. Granted the shaky indicator buttons when you were stressed became rather aggravating and the camera would switch positions and completely disorient me but definitely not a bad game. It seems like Quantic Dream is improving with each new game and I look forward to the next one. Also, plan on renting and enjoying Alan Wake tomorrow.
that's awfully nice from remedy, even though i won't take that advice seeing how HR can be "played" on youtube and the main crux of the story makes a twist so awful with plot holes and cardboard characters with a superfluous sex scene only described as "ken and barbie" stiffness.
@AlphaJC
Innovation and rating are two different things. Katamari Damacy only has a 86 Metacritic score, but is innovative. And 86 is a fail in the eyes of fanboys!
You can say a game had great concepts, but it sucked. I hated Psi-Ops, but I thought the Telekinesis was cool.
Innovation and rating are two different things. Katamari Damacy only has a 86 Metacritic score, but is innovative. And 86 is a fail in the eyes of fanboys!
You can say a game had great concepts, but it sucked. I hated Psi-Ops, but I thought the Telekinesis was cool.
Props to remedy! I hope I enjoy alan wake as much as I did with heavy rain. I never been so emotionally attached to a game before as I did with heavy rain.
Played it, got bored of it, never finished it.
I work in a bookstore so playing an interactive novel crammed full of quick-time events don't interest me at all.
I work in a bookstore so playing an interactive novel crammed full of quick-time events don't interest me at all.
I want to know when more DLC will be available for Heavy Rain. The Taxidermist was more thrilling then the entire game itself! Looking forward to picking up Alan Wake tonight (along with Red Dead).
I think rivalries are interesting if they keep it fun. Like DICE taking humorous pot shots at MW. They do it in a light hearted manner. But when developers take cheap shots then it's another story
I think rivalries are interesting if they keep it fun. Like DICE taking humorous pot shots at MW. They do it in a light hearted manner. But when developers take cheap shots then it's another story
Heavy Rain is a quite cool game.
It's not worth getting a PS3 for.
Unless you want a really highly detailed JAAAAAAAAASON simulator.
It's not worth getting a PS3 for.
Unless you want a really highly detailed JAAAAAAAAASON simulator.
Heavy rain felt like a necessary experiment. It's played it's part and opened a few eyes to what narrative can accomplish however trite the climax.
It's a stepping stone. Looking at it as "the be all end all" will obviously leave much to be desired, but the implications of what will grow from this seed is captivating to say the least.
It's a stepping stone. Looking at it as "the be all end all" will obviously leave much to be desired, but the implications of what will grow from this seed is captivating to say the least.
Now I don't read every single game site out there (but I do read a handful) or hang in forums (and I'm not in the industry) so maybe it's out there being said and I missed it...but every once in a while it seems like comparisons and controversies that come up...or in this individual situation throwing out the idea of some comparison between Heavy Rain and Alan Wake...I haven't read anyone making that comparison till just now.
Every so often I tend to see the Destructoid writers themselves throw out this stuff to create debates and views that weren't an issue...until they get casually thrown out there as if it's what everyone is talking about, when nine times out of ten it's been created by the writer and then the thread makes it a self fullfilled prophesy because NOW they are talking about it.
Whatever, just an observation. It's like when there's articles declaring a game a failure when it isn't number one...yet came out three days before the month ends so it's not actually a months worth of sales it's based on.
Technically true, but a bit cheap.
Things like that, hey, you have the right to your opinions and observations. Just sometimes, not often, but sometimes, it feels a little too obvious like Destructoid is reaching a little desperately to create hits.
I know I won't stop it, but still...you guys are so good so often, goes back to something I said in a thread a ways back...I know Destructoid is better than that. I can only hope they one day realize it about themselves.
Mikko Rautalahti is raut...um, right...on the money about how the comparison makes little sense anyway. All that he said are completely different is accurate. I've played through Heavy Rain and seen enough of Alan Wake to know they aren't the same style of gameplay or presentation.
It's like comparing Madden to Halo.
Every so often I tend to see the Destructoid writers themselves throw out this stuff to create debates and views that weren't an issue...until they get casually thrown out there as if it's what everyone is talking about, when nine times out of ten it's been created by the writer and then the thread makes it a self fullfilled prophesy because NOW they are talking about it.
Whatever, just an observation. It's like when there's articles declaring a game a failure when it isn't number one...yet came out three days before the month ends so it's not actually a months worth of sales it's based on.
Technically true, but a bit cheap.
Things like that, hey, you have the right to your opinions and observations. Just sometimes, not often, but sometimes, it feels a little too obvious like Destructoid is reaching a little desperately to create hits.
I know I won't stop it, but still...you guys are so good so often, goes back to something I said in a thread a ways back...I know Destructoid is better than that. I can only hope they one day realize it about themselves.
Mikko Rautalahti is raut...um, right...on the money about how the comparison makes little sense anyway. All that he said are completely different is accurate. I've played through Heavy Rain and seen enough of Alan Wake to know they aren't the same style of gameplay or presentation.
It's like comparing Madden to Halo.
I've been seeing gameplay videos, watched a review or two and heard you guys on Podtoid talk about it (even the "spoiler" episode) and i'm all meh for this game. How the killer came to be the killer is kinda loose...
Heavy Rain was a really interesting experience. Even if the plot doesn't make sense and it has no replay value, it's definitely worth renting once. Alan Wake is probably a really good game too. It's good to see developers come out and say that the fanboys are comparing apples to oranges, and you're allowed to like the taste of both.
I like to hear writers and developers show some respect to their fellow developers. The trash talking from companies like Bioware really puts a bad taste in my mouth.
I appreciated and enjoyed Heavy Rain. The game's graphics, music and story were thoroughly an enthralling experience. Only, the experience was a short lived. I beat the game, enjoyed the journey and destination and that was that. The game really had no replay value for me and I was not very interested in the DLC chapters whatsoever. Still, much like parachuting out of a plane or bungee jumping, most people should, at the very least, try it once. Just don't expect wanting to do it again.
@seventhevening
I'm not at ALL criticizing you, but I think its funny how hard it is to legitimately criticize a studio/company/developer for trash talking without it sounding like you're trash-talking yourself
I'm not at ALL criticizing you, but I think its funny how hard it is to legitimately criticize a studio/company/developer for trash talking without it sounding like you're trash-talking yourself
As trite as Heavy Rain's story was, I do like to see more respectful and mature comments between rivals (for lack of a better word).
Does Rautalahti have anything to say regarding Deadly Premonition?
Does Rautalahti have anything to say regarding Deadly Premonition?
Very true, and I also think that two game developers having respect for one another rather than competition makes everything less hostile, and helps the fanboys lay off for a while.
Well, considering I spoiled the twist to myself like an all-powerful dumbass, I can't. It won't feel the same.
Still can't get interested in Heavy Rain. The game seems to make an effort to reject everything that got in me into videogames in the first place.
I'm curious about it, but not enough to actually play money to play it.
I'm curious about it, but not enough to actually play money to play it.
Generally game developers have an enormous amount of respect for eachother and eachothers art. Have you ever been to a GDC? Its all about game designers coming together and sharing knowledge and ideas and its not about competition or anything.
The mudslinging is typically left to the publishers and marketers.
The mudslinging is typically left to the publishers and marketers.
You do make a good point, Jim. If this were a Sony developer, they'd claim how Alan Wake could only work on PS3 and blah blah about Blu-ray. It's refreshing to see a 360 exclusive developer make claims about people actually trying the rival companies software.
Are people trying to compare 360 vs. PS3 yet?
Anyways, I want to play heavy rain still. Seems like a good game and if this guy, who has nothing to gain but respect from faceless bloggers, says it's worth my time then that's good enough for me.
People should welcome new games more openly rather than just sticking to their halo and god of wars.
Anyways, I want to play heavy rain still. Seems like a good game and if this guy, who has nothing to gain but respect from faceless bloggers, says it's worth my time then that's good enough for me.
People should welcome new games more openly rather than just sticking to their halo and god of wars.
nicely played remedy
very classy, this kind of things leads me to believe the real "TEH CONSOLEZ WARZ" only exist in the minds of the most irrational fanboys
very classy, this kind of things leads me to believe the real "TEH CONSOLEZ WARZ" only exist in the minds of the most irrational fanboys
@KingSigy
how about insomniac
they urged people to try gear of war 2, not that they needed any more incentive
how about insomniac
they urged people to try gear of war 2, not that they needed any more incentive
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