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Reggie: Wii's storage problem an 'urgent' issue photo

It would seem that Nintendo Europe's condescending attitude that only "geeks and Otaku" care about the Wii's low storage capacity is not a belief shared by Nintendo of America. Reggie Fils-Aime, the man with beefburger fists that can punch through walls, has admitted that the need for an extended storage solution is important to all customers.

"From an Americas-centric perspective, here is the reality we see. We have a consumer base who loves virtual console," stated the savory executive. "We have a userbase who really is enjoying WiiWare content. So for us really our challenge really is how do we satisfy all these consumers who are loving all of the product we make available on a download basis?"

"As we continue to have things [...] like Mario Kart that has its own channel when you're playing from an Internet perspective, we're just making this challenge tougher and tougher. So in our view this is becoming much more of a mainstream problem, which is why we have a sense of urgency to solve it."

The idea that only "core" gamers cared about extra storage was a myopic view in the first place. Having to buy SD cards and delete previous games is not something that only hardcore players would find inconvenient, because it is an inconvenience, no matter who you are. In any case, the fact that Nintendo actually gives a crap now is pleasing, although with external memory and the WiiMotion Plus accessory, is it fair to say that the Wii is only recently being turned into a finished product?








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Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:13
Justice
The last sentence is so damn true.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:14
killias2
At least they're taking us seriously for once. Maybe the blowback from E3 has had a bigger impact than we thought.

"In any case, the fact that Nintendo actually gives a crap now is pleasing, although with external memory and the WiiMotion Plus accessory, is it fair to say that the Wii is only recently being turned into a finished product?"

Meh, all systems have this issue. The new PS3's have crippled or no backwards compatibility. Almost every other early 360 broke. Both platforms have had issues with different hard drive sizes and different release packages. The PS3 is just starting to get true DualShock (and good games....)

Generally speaking, all three console manufacturers have failed this generation. I just want one system to do everything it promises without having to spend 600 dollars. Is that so wrong to ask.. especially a few years into this generation?
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:14
Tubatic
My guess is this attitude comes from software sales for virtual stuff being in the low numbers overall. The one off "Bought my Wii just for Wii Sports" probably really isn't delving too deep into the Virtual Console, and collecting the massive (read a dozens or two) numbers of Virtual console favorites.

The Lousiana Purchase totally brought The States closer to a finished nation . . .
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:29
Phoenix Gamma
Maybe they can address the hardcore games shortage issue.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:35
AgentMOO
Reggie, what are you doing at a sci fi convention?

GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:35
GuitarAtomik
Well. At least someone finally admitted it.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:38
Jim Sterling
AgentMOO:

I see Cammie's with him.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:38
JACK of No Trades
Here we go again!!!!

"Meh, all systems have this issue. The new PS3's have crippled or no backwards compatibility. Almost every other early 360 broke. Both platforms have had issues with different hard drive sizes and different release packages. The PS3 is just starting to get true DualShock (and good games....)"

Dude, get Nintendo dick out of your ass. What is wrong with you? Why do you defend a company that shits on you and could care less about your retarded loyalty? You must be brain dead. Why? Why? Why would you think the Wii is a great system lol? Really, how could you think the Wii is so great that you have to defend it so much????!?////???!!?


I could see this type of loyalty with the NES, SNES or 64, but with the Wii it is fucking stupid. The systems contols and games are halfass. If Nintendo keeps leaving 3 party developers out of the loop you will be left with a Mario & Zelda title ever 4 years. Why would you want to miss out on Fable 2? Fallout3? There are so many fantastic games comming out for 360 & PS3 that are very creative and super entertaining + with HD GRAPHICS. I don't get it at all......
Master E's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:53
Master E
@ JACK of No Trades

Maybe he feels the need to be refreshing amongst a slew of seemingly endless ranting and whining that's going to continue to matter what Nintendo will do?
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:54
killias2
"Dude, get Nintendo dick out of your ass. What is wrong with you? Why do you defend a company that shits on you and could care less about your retarded loyalty? You must be brain dead. Why? Why? Why would you think the Wii is a great system lol? Really, how could you think the Wii is so great that you have to defend it so much????!?////???!!? "

I'm sorry, but I guess when I said, "Generally speaking, all three console manufacturers have failed this generation. I just want one system to do everything it promises without having to spend 600 dollars. Is that so wrong to ask.. especially a few years into this generation?" I didn't really think I was saying the Wii is a great system. Maybe I'm mis-reading my own statement. Could you tell me what I meant by my own comments? Also, here is what I said in a post right before this one: "I'm so happy I built a gaming PC. I know PC gaming gets a bad rap these days.. but there are so many options!"

I'm just so underwhelmed by all the consoles this generation. I'd say I'm less a Wii fanboy than a PC fanboy. I just think it's ridiculous that PS360 fanboys go apeshit on the Wii, while their own shit continues to stink.

As a sidenote, while I don't really care about Fable, I'm sure Fable 2 will come out for the PC like its predecessor. I'm actually very excited for Fallout 3. I'll be playing it on the platform it's meant for.. the PC. I could give a shit about HD graphics... I can't afford an HD TV, and I just don't see a good reason to make the investment.

"There are so many fantastic games comming out for 360 & PS3 that are very creative and super entertaining"

Most of which are coming out for the PC. The remainder of which either A. I don't give a shit about (you can put Halo and Gears of War solidly in this territory. The PC has more than enough FPS's to satisfy even the most rabid FPS fan until the end of time itself... and I'm not really a big FPS fan to begin with). B. Has the words Resident, Evil, Final, Fantasy, Ninja, or Gaiden in it.

There are also lots of fun games for the Wii. I don't think its a fantastic system, but I certain get more multiplayer play out of it then I would get out of a PS360. I'm quite happy to keep the PC as my solo gaming platform and use the Wii for multiplayer.

As for being a Nintendo fanboy, I had a n64 AND a PSOne. I bought a PS2 but not a Gamecube. This weekend I'm buying a PSP but not a DS. I don't take brands that seriously. I just think its ridiculous that PS360 fans need to compensate for something by ripping on the Wii. Don't like it? Don't get one. I still feel I made the right choice, although all three major consoles pale in comparison to the PC or even the PS2.
Joseph Leray's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:57
Joseph Leray
@Jack -- seriously? seriously? He just shat on all three companies, and he's a Nintendo defender now?

What the hell kind of mental gymnastics are going on in here?
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 09:58
killias2
"Maybe he feels the need to be refreshing amongst a slew of seemingly endless ranting and whining that's going to continue to matter what Nintendo will do?"

Hahaha, I appreciate the sentiments, but I do my own share of ranting and whining. I just try to balance mine with a little self-restraint and realization that all these bastards (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) are out for our money.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:04
JACK of No Trades
#1. The PC has the fewest exclusives.

#2. You could buy an HDTV for a cheaper price than it would cost you to upgrade your PC to play games at the PS3/360 level.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:05
free touch
Jack: what the fuck?

And to be honest, I'll miss out on Fable 2 and Fallout 3 because I think those games are shit and a waste of time. (Sorry, any game that is totally emersive, yet you can jump, gets a big fail in my book, and do we really need a post nuclear COD?) Graphics do not make the fucking game asshole. Look at N+, You've got basic flash graphics, and the game kicks mounds of butt.

Killahs made valid points, all 3 systems have there faults. And to attack him because you have some sort of grudge is pitiful.

But I digress, its the same thing this gen as it was last gen, uninformed idiots screaming that nintendo sucks and its for kids. Sooner or later everyone grows up and realizes that its not how you play, its just that you play.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:09
JACK of No Trades
"I just try to balance mine with a little self-restraint and realization that all these bastards (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) are out for our money."

Look what MS is doing. That are going to allows to create our own games and sell them for money. They are bring huge games to the platform so that the "core" gamer is very happy even if they are on their second or third 360. They are Updating the dashboard & giving us NetFlix.

Sony isn't too far behind them.
Nintendo is giving you crap. No extra storage space, a Wiimote upgrade & Wiimusic. Wow, they are so equal.
Master E's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:13
Master E
@killias2

Yeah, same here. I've got all three of the consoles and they've all got their good and bad qualities.

And the fact is: They're all holding back on us... now that updates can be downloaded, they aren't going to play their hands until they need to. That's where we're at now in this industry.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:14
JACK of No Trades
OH NO?? Here come Free Touch to the rescue.

Yes graphic don't make the game, but it sure in the fuck adds to the experience and can bring life to the game. Also, N+ is an Xboxlive game that cost 10 bucks. Nintendo is charging 50 bucks for a lesser experience and lesser graphics than N+. Pixel Junk Monsters is a great example of simple gameplay and simple graphics. It takes a good balance to make a great game.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:16
king3vbo
USB hard drive compatability. DURR
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:17
free touch
Why are you starting all of this shit? Did your account get jacked by Wrath or something?

Do you really want me to list all of the shovelware on the ps3 and 360 that cost $60?

You are flying off the handle for no reason, other than to troll. Cut it out.
Alexradl's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:20
Alexradl
free touch:

You've played Fable 2 and Fallout 3?
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:20
MechaMonkey
Jack, I had thought you had progressed past senseless flame wars. Is this really necessary? He's absolutely right, there are definitely issues with the hardware of each of the major consoles. Games libraries are another issue entirely.

But since this topic is about Wii storage, and not a vote on which console you think is the worst, let's all stick to that, hmm? It's nice to see this issue finally getting some attention. How long until the idea becomes something material and usable though?
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:20
JACK of No Trades
free touch

Why can't I talk about Nintendo? Why is it ok to talk bad on Sony & MS?

Remindes me of a old saying:

You can't call a retard a retard because it will either make him mad or hurt his feelings.

It means: the truth hurts.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:22
JACK of No Trades
So now im a troll just because I wanted to talk about the Wii in a Wii related blog.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:22
killias2
"#1. The PC has the fewest exclusives.

#2. You could buy an HDTV for a cheaper price than it would cost you to upgrade your PC to play games at the PS3/360 level."

Depends on how you define exclusives. There are thousands of things you can do with a PC that you can't do with a console outside the realm of gaming. Inside gaming, there are millions of mods, emulators, self-made games, hacks, etc. to play with. There is also a long history of old PC games you can play with few or no problems. Finally, there are still some pretty big exclusives, especially for a strategy fan like myself. There are obvious ones like Colonization, Starcraft 2, Civilization (real Civilization, not watered down Revolution crap), Galactic Civilizations, Sins of a Solar Empire, etc. However, there are strategy games most people never heard of that I play constantly. Europa Universalis, Hearts of Iron, Victoria, Crusader Kings - these are absolutely amazing games that are IMPOSSIBLE to do on a console. Maybe when keyboard/mice become popular on the PS360 it'll be possible, but not before then.

Trying to convince me that it makes more sense to get an HDTV and a 360 than to get a new computer is just absolute nonsense. Not only would the total cost be higher (For a decent HDTV, you're looking at spending at least 300-400 bucks. 400 dollars for a decent Xbox360. I upgraded my computer to play Crysis at mostly highest settings for about 700 dollars a year ago. It'd be cheaper now), but I'm the kind of guy who just finds the 360's library to be a joke compared to the PC's.

Finally, even if the PC doesn't have that many exclusives, it gets a lot of the best console games. There are very few games I want that I don't have access to. I already listed the titles. Among them, only Ninja Gaiden is out.
bbrigg1's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:24
bbrigg1
I find it funny to see someone bashing Nintendo this bad with that avatar.
XerxesTWD's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:25
XerxesTWD
Man, I said it was only the head of NoE when this was brought up in the first place. Nobody agrees with that guy.
Aertyr's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:25
Aertyr
I'm so hungry now.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:25
Maurice Tan
Nintendo can still die in a fire.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:28
JACK of No Trades
Im love the old Nintendo. Not the new Nintendo. Thats why I created my avatar a year ago. It shows Mario flipping off the consumer.

I want to know why in the hell im called a troll just because I talk about the Wii in a fucking Wii related blog?? The same thing happens to Yojimbo when he post a semi-negative blog. There is a huge double standard in the industry.
kevkevblazini's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:29
kevkevblazini
LAWL @ Jack of NO Trades telling someone to remove Nintendo dick out of thier ass, and then commence to putting on a Sony/Microsoft DP ZOMG SHINEE HD GRAFIXX!!!! Orgyfest. That's ironic hypocrisy at it's finest.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:30
killias2
"Look what MS is doing. That are going to allows to create our own games and sell them for money. They are bring huge games to the platform so that the "core" gamer is very happy even if they are on their second or third 360. They are Updating the dashboard & giving us NetFlix. "

I never thought I'd live to see the day in which I'd see someone uphold Microsoft as a populist champion for consumers on a website even remotely connected to technology. If Nintendo and Sony died out, you'd see the most twisted fucked up shit imaginable happen to the gaming industry with MS in charge. Trust me. MS is no savior. Pray to Jesus that there is still enough competition from multiple angles to keep MS in line.

I mean, I still use a lot of their products, but they're ruthless when they have a monopoly.


Also, when did giving people access to Netflix (which they can get anyway...) become a major core gamer issue? Am I missing something? Did the same guy who consistently criticizes Nintendo for casual offerings just praise NETFLIX ON A CONSOLE?!
sluxi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:30
sluxi
You get that a lot?
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:30
free touch
No man, its the way you did it. I totally agree there is junk on the wii, we ALL agree on that. It's just the way you jumped on the guy like he was defending a rapist or something that was wrong. You just went about it wrong. I'm not going to argue with you anymore, because you are just making shit up to keep the flame going, and insinuating stuff. But you do rape babies.

AlexRadl: nope, just saw the live footage, and played the original fable. They didn't jump in the demo at all, and fallout looks like just another war game, but with sweeter weapons. The nuke tosser is awesome though.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:34
JACK of No Trades
How will Jim Sterling get alot of comments without me starting the flame? I will leave you alone. You ran out of thing to say anyways.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:36
killias2
I'm gonna take a timeout from arguing with Jack and even talking about the topic at hand to say that anyone saying Fallout "looks like just another war game" needs to play Fallout 1 and 2 in short order. If they've already played them.. then I'm at a loss for words. :P
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:37
killias2
Jack of No Trades stopping the flame early? I never thought I'd see the day.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:38
free touch
Yeah, I know what Fallout 1 and 2 look like. They switched it to a fps for fallout 3.
Alexradl's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:38
Alexradl
kevkevblazini:

You act like HD graphics are a bad thing.

Go ahead and shit on Sony/Microsoft all you want, just allow us to shit on Nintendo at the same time. Like Jack said, the double standard is ridiculous.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:43
Tubatic
@Free Touch

Fallout three's a 3PS with FPS tendencies.

I've seen some demos of Fable 2 with jumping (G4/X-Play's Hands on)

@Jack

Why do you and Jim Sterling hate innovation and hamburgers?? :)
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:48
free touch
oh... then I stand corrected... although I still don't want those games.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:50
killias2
"Go ahead and shit on Sony/Microsoft all you want, just allow us to shit on Nintendo at the same time. Like Jack said, the double standard is ridiculous."

Honestly, I don't really shit on the PS3 and 360 that much. I shit on all three companies for screwing over the consumer consistently, and I shit on people who have some weird complex with the Wii and must attack it and everything it stands for like it's fucking Hitler.

If you prefer the PS3 or 360, that's fine. I never attacked the judgment of people who prefer those systems. Whateve's. Enjoy. Just understand that they aren't -currently- worth it for me. There are people who prefer having a PC and Wii or just a PC or just a Wii, and they all have their reasons. Honestly, for all I say about the Wii, I'd rather have Starcraft 2 than any game for any console. Hell, having Starcraft 2 means more to me than the entire combined PS360Wii library. Seriously. I LOVE STARCRAFT.

Just because you've got a hard-on for Halo and HD doesn't mean that's all gaming or even hardcore gaming is about... just as my enjoyment of Wii in-person multiplayer and PC strategy games isn't all gaming or hardcore gaming is about.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:51
killias2
Didn't they just come and say that Fallout 3 can basically be played the same way as Fallout.. with a turn based battle option? Yep, I just checked. You can play it turn based.
kevkevblazini's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:52
kevkevblazini
Alexradl:

HD Graphics are NOT a bad thing, and I'm NOT shitting on Sony OR Microsoft, all I'm saying is, when a Sony/Microsoft fanboy wants to dump on Nintendo, the first shit he says is HD GRAPHICS!!!!! HD GRAPHICS!!!!! And I can't afford a muhfucking 500 dollar TV bruh. That's all I was saying.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 10:59
JACK of No Trades
Heretic

Lol, your more hated than I ever was.

What have you brought to the community? Nothing...you have brought nothing to the community except hatred. At least some people enjoy my blogs and enjoy playing FNF with me. Your a lonely bastard that nobody likes to talk to.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 11:02
JACK of No Trades
Ohhhh I say some hurtful comments about Nintendo in a Wii related blog so now I should be banned. Good way of thinking. People call other people trolls when they don't share the same perspective as them.
bbrigg1's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 11:03
bbrigg1
DING DING DING

Round 2
Mr Bas's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 11:05
Mr Bas
No Jack, the problem is that you're just plain stupid ;)
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 11:24
JACK of No Trades
Heretic

You are too smart for me Heretic. You should be given an award for how intelligent you are. You comments are so much intelligent then mine. lol you crazy dude. I just wanted to stir some shit on a boring work day and im told to GTFO. You notice I never told anybody to leave Dtoid and that they are hated? No you didn't. Your pathetic.
peeetah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/24/2008 11:31
peeetah
HAHAHAHA what a couple of whiny bitches.
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