Nintendo of America's beefburger boss, Reggie Fils-Aime, has declared that if you have a Wii, you don't really have any motivation to drop another few hundred bucks on a PS3 with PlayStation Move. Doesn't sound like Nintendo's threatened at all by the Sony Wiimote.
"So I’m a consumer and I’m having a great experience with my Wii," declares Reggie. "And we know that’s the case – we look at the software that’s being purchased. Consumers love the Wii. What’s going to motivate them to spend minimally $300 for a new [PS3] system, plus minimally $100 for the Move motion bundle?
"So [as a consumer] now I’m into this for $400 and I still have to spend money on software. What’s going to motivate me to do that?"
I have to make Reggie right on this. I have a Wii. I bought a PS3 because it provided a different experience to the Wii. Why should I be excited to hear that Sony is now just duplicating the Wii's experience? Sony should never have tried to copy Nintendo. Rather, it should have put some real support behind the PlayStation Eye. That's at least a unique experience, and something Sony had in place long before Project Natal. Still, I should be used to Sony dropping the ball by now.
Nintendo's Reggie on Wii Core Games, Wii HD, Shortages & More [Industry Gamers]
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11:20 AM on 03.17.2010
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Just because PS3 is getting Move doesn't mean third parties still won't churn out shit to cash in on the gimmick.
...It's not going to get me to PS Sports, PS Play, PS Fit or PS Music though.
I'm a happy Wii owner because of the titles, not the waggle. I plan to buy a ps3 for the titles, not some shameless aping of said waggle. One would hope that by now everyone would know it's about good titles, not some gimmick. If the Move has solid titles, I'll buy it, but I won't turn my nose up just because I like my Wii too.
i own neither a PS3 or a Wii, but if i was going to buy one for motion control, it would be the PS3, because it's a better console overall.
i do own a 360, and may well be interested in natal, or even the motion controller Razer is planning for PC. as a fairly serious gamer, the Wii remains at the bottom of the pile no matter how i look at it.
Sony's not duplicating what the Wii does, it's perfecting =D
However, if Sony support Move well they will encourage development of games with the benefit of the depth of gaming on offer with the PS3 at present coupled with the fun through interactivity of the Wiimote that the Move controller should open up.
If Sony get that magic formula right; that's when he'll be worried.
"Natal will die faster than the virtual boy."
LOL! That's the funniest joke I ever heard since people started arguing about Move and Natal! Good one, ol' chap!
@psycho terror2
He said Wii owners aren't going to switch not that people wouldn't buy it.
Microsoft-Guy says "Natal Good, Sony Move Bad. Buy Natal, Do Not Buy Move"
Sony-Guy says "Move Good, work better than Wii. You Buy. Natal Bad. You no Buy"
Consumer says "Shut the **** up, all of you. I don't care about your stupid biased opinions (or your Tarzan English)."
I know that innovation takes time to come into its own, but I'm happy with sticks, pads 'n buttons, man.
So far the price that has been thrown out there for Natal is around $50...
(( For sure less than $100. ))
There has been talk that the PSMove Bundle...
(( EyeToy "the first Natal" + PSMove + Starter Game "Think PSports" )) =
Less than $100 too.
Thankfully i bought the EyeToy a long time ago & only need :
PSMove & PSMove Sub-Controller.
@ cadtalfryn
Exactly!
Also,
I think they are going to be releasing a Director's Cut of RE5 w/Motion Controls.
(( As the girl that voices Jill Valentine rumored to so long ago. ))
Because the back of my Biohazard5:AlternativeEdition doesn't mention PSMove.
I'm a GAMER, i have a PS3 AND a Wii, my Wii hasn't been touched for months.
I can soon get a Wii-like-only-better (facial recognition AND 1:1 without needing Motion plus) experience on the box that already does my TV, internet, Music, Blu-ray, Gaming, Media Streaming etc etc etc, so my Wii is quickly heading for the trade in shop.
What Reggie really means is...
"So I’m a soccer mom / 6 year old girl / overweight elderly person and I’m having a great experience with my Wii," declares Reggie. "And we know that’s the case – we look at the SHOVELware that’s being purchased. Soccer moms / 6 year old girls / overweight elderly people love the Wii. What’s going to motivate them to spend minimally $300 for a new [PS3] system, plus minimally $100 for the Move motion bundle?
Sure Reggie, nothing is going to motivate the type of people who "love the Wii" to buy a games console, because GENERALLY (I'm not talking about YOU mr toid reader who happens to love his Wii) Wii owners are not gamers.
Sure some gamers own Wii's but gamers are not the Wii's main demographic, children and soccer mom's, and you know what, eventually those children that own Wii's are going to get older, and want a proper gaming experience, so the HD, Mature title-ful, console which also has a control scheme they're used to is going to be a pretty good option.
The Wii is a toy. PS move takes what worked for the toy market and brings it to GAMERS, with real games like Socom and GT5.
Better graphics and a more powerful processor! I like my Wii, but I want some current tech that matches my HD TV and etc etc. The Sony Move sounds like it can provide that!
Psychic! Literally had this same conversation the other day.
ahh so, skim read FTL.
revised comment:
9/10 Wii purchasers probably don't have enough interest in videogames to put down $400 on a new console. in fact i imagine many of them have less interest in videogames than they did before they picked up a Wii. any Wii owners who are "serious gamers" probably already own a PS3/360 as well as a Wii, so we're not talking about a $400 cost anyway.
Like the PSP Go, I struggle to see who the target market is here. Natal, at least, promises a new experience (it won't be, but they can promise it).
Both systems have one major flaw, the Wii doesn't have enough support for traditional controls, and PS3 is way too late on the motion control to take advantage of the Wii's flaw. If this was available in the beginning, it might have cut into Nintendo's launch (a little, since price was still a big difference between the two).
I don't think its bad that Sony is providing the option, but I don't think this will sell another 20 million consoles on it own. I doubt Sony expects that either.
... same as Natal is not aimed at the "happy" Wii owner....
i also would have loved more eyetoy based apps/games; the cool ps3 eyetoy mesmerize game/app is very cool.
And really, the people saying that adding motion controls to the PS3 means you're just now getting meaningful games using motion controls is unbelievably laughable. That's delusion on a ridiculous level.
I've never seen an overweight elderly person.
On the other hand, Nintendo needs to shamelessly rip-off XBL, because this friend-code crap is awful. By far the worst thing about having a Wii, in the short time I've owned mine.
PSN is a better network than what currently Nintendo does (or I should say doesn't) have.
Trophy support
HD support (Wii games on a 50+ inch LCD/Plasma looks like garbage)
The 1:1 tracking, if they can nail it.
Also, a while back Sony stated after they released the EYETOY, they did some research and found that most people still wanted something tangible in their hands. So I would assume thats why they didn't press forward with a "camera" only solution.
Personally I don't see why people are excited for NATAL and not this. I think we all agree Wii Motion is pretty good but not all that hot. So why piss on Sony for taking their proven decent design and trying to improve on it? Why are people not taking MS to the ringer for being an EYETOY HD??
You need to visit Iowa, then.
How about I just don't want motion controls? I like sitting back and just playing on a controller. If I really want to move around and crap, I do have DDR pads, thanks.
This kind of comment shows worried brows over at Nintendo, because they know very well, that if PS3 gets that vital third party support that Wii lacks, Wii's days at the top are numbered in the motion control arena. PS3 can offer so much more in this area, as well as others, and frankly, even as a 360 owner, I'd happily invest in a PS3, if its motion control game are any good, and beyond what hasn't been tried on Wii.
I'm still up in the air about the rise of more motion control, as I'd rather just have a normal controller instead. So long as Sony and MS exercise control of shovelware too, because that could end the whole mo-con party quickly.
That's Nintendo's biggest mistake once again. You should never underestimate the competition, or be afraid to counteract and do what they do, but better. Sony are smart on this one, and Wii is testament to the lame opposite, and soon their arguments about making Wii cheaper lame GC mash up, are going to be shot to shit. Just wait until E3, and those Natal and Move games hit home, Nintendo are going to be in big trouble, with third parties backing both competitors strongly.
Time to suffer for your sins, Nintendo.
Quote "Nintendo-Guy says "Nintendo Good, Sony Move Bad. Do Not Buy"
Microsoft-Guy says "Natal Good, Sony Move Bad. Buy Natal, Do Not Buy Move"
Sony-Guy says "Move Good, work better than Wii. You Buy. Natal Bad. You no Buy""
Why is it that in my head I read the Sony line in an oriental accent. Was the phrasing done like that on purpose?
@x:
What you don't realize is some of us DO enjoy the Wii. Not for its gimmicks, its motion, its shovelware, but for that rare diamond in the rust that really stands out as a great game, sometimes even blowing other consoles' exclusives out of the water. Games like the console Zeldas, Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros Brawl, Super Paper Mario. These titles are what give the Wii its moment of glory, and while my Wii library isn't too large, these games and a select few others keep bringing me back. I play the Wii much more than my Xbox and I have more than twice the games for that system (they aren't bad, just most have no replayability).
I don't think people like me are going to jump on the PS Move. It is pretty much essentially just a PSWiimote, similar to Natal. I won't be buying either.
I think a TRUE gamer, above all, isn't drawn in by the promise of gimmicky play-it-for-10-minutes-then-never-touch-it-again that most of the Wii's library ended up being and what Move and Natal seem to be promising; rather, the true gamer sees beyond that for the quality of the titles themselves. I can proudly say I own a Wii for about 5 games, but those 5 games are pretty damn good.
And there's my 2-cents.
... oh yeah, he's not talking about gamers...
... but yeah, I'm going to have to see some really interesting things to go in on Move. Full Retail HD Bowling and one quirky office chair game isn't cutting it quite yet.