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This latest trailer explains the close combat in Aliens vs. Predator. Ironically, the video only tells you the Xbox 360 controls, which already has a control layout in the demo. The demo that really needs help with the controls, the PC version, has been left high and dry. You're just going to have to guess the keys for that one. 

Anyway, if you've been getting hacked to pieces too many times, this video will show you how to deal with a close encounter. It's all about the block button. Yes, we didn't know there was one either until someone outside of the demo pointed it out to us. 

People are starting to get the hang of counters and blocking in the demo, which is starting to annoy me as it's getting harder to win matches. I don't like being challenged, least of all by smartass Predators who think they're cool just because they look like insectoid Bob Marleys.








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RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:04
RenegadePanda
This is almost like Tony Hawk Ride.

'Our game doesn't suck, you just aren't playing it right.'
jagged21's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:07
jagged21
yeah its harder to own with alien now but its still just as fun
tvirusgetz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:08
tvirusgetz
People are starting to get the hang of counters and blocking in the demo, which is starting to annoy me as it's getting harder to win matches.

this. tho people that spam heavy attacks (or with preds, the disc) annoy me a bit more. those should have a cool down time
360COMIC's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:09
360COMIC
lets not forget brutal legend had to tell people how to play well.
Telephis's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:11
Telephis
Close combat is great between aliens and preds. If you are a human and something is close enough to hit you, you are dead.

btw this game is awesome. At first I was pissed because Q is run do not let this dissuade you

This video is good, because it will only get more fun as more people figure out how to play. It is a little more complex than, say, cod, if only because the species have totally different play styles, and this puts a lot of people off right away. Which is unfortunate because it is really a great game.
TheDirtyHeadband's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:13
TheDirtyHeadband
well when games use a system of combat people may not be used to, sometimes it helps when the creators put out a tutorial. this combat is pretty complex compared to other melee combat from other first person shooters. (excluding condemned)
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:14
Volomon
Out of 10+ times playing the game I've only NOT been number one, once. I feel like I'm playing against handicapped people, I'll see three people all lined up and freaking disc (Pred) two and face rape the other.

Honestly it doesn't matter what I play either. Though I find that the Alien suffers deaths far easier than Marine or Predator. So there's a slight balance issue there. Lets just say I could be pulling in Choppers all day if this was COD as Pred and Marine, but as Alien I might get a care package.

@tvirusgetz I actually agree the disc is no energy where as the others are, it makes no sense to use them. Though I see the laser as a sniper rifle aka not to be used except with a lot of space. The combi-stick also has a longer range than the disc.

Maybe the disc is just to good in narrow corridors, in another map it might not fair so well. Hell it bounces of the walls and creates an instant human blender.

I think cloaking should use one energy each time it's activated. That would help. Marines also need to be balanced though. Maybe though accuracy balancing someone should be able to full blast that thing and hit someone at maximum distances.
ygro wok's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:16
ygro wok
I don't think it's quite like the Tony Hawk Ride situation. The demo just lacks any kind of tutorial to how the controls work. The full game, which, will at least come with a manual explaining the game play, will probably avoid this problem.

The demo should have come with some sort of tutorial to give potential buyers a better idea of what the game actually is, rather then leaving them to fend for themselves and try and figure out the game. That just makes people frustrated and not interested in the full game.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:17
pedrovay2003
I can get a trophy kill, but I can't for the life of me figure out what to do if I grab the opponent from the front.
AfroWalrus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:18
AfroWalrus
Actually, the humans aren't too shabby up close. If you block, then melee, they alien/predator will be stunned long enough to put a couple slugs into their face... just enough to kill them. Then stimpack and awaaaay!
Kudos's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:21
Kudos
The controls are super easy, any idiot with two rocks and a acorn bouncing around in their skull should be able to figure it out. The game play seemed pretty simple. The only thing I did not like is how easy it is to just grab some one and instant date rape them.

I also think that Aliens need some kind of stealth buff. Hell, all I had to do was turn up my brightness as a marine and they might as well have been neon green. Maybe when they are in shadows they should become more translucent to ward of people doing exactly what I did. But really, what marine would actually use that pathetic flash light any way.
benjaminajacobs's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:21
benjaminajacobs


Doesn't get it.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:21
Volomon
@ygro wok Good thing it's not an IQ test I guess.

Also on my previous post I mean "should not be able to full blast". Also a quick fix if Rebellion is watching, Aliens could benefit from ALIENS ONLY tunnels, aka only enough space for one alien to fit in and move around. This would give them potential escapes. Of course this means modding all the maps.

Marines need lower damage at longer distance (blaster/default), flame and shotgun need to be upped in power. Sniper rifle although good needs to up it's active ammo by 3. Also needs flares in ALL maps and flares should distort Preds vision.

Predator Laser attack needs to use less energy, cloaking needs to use energy one bar.
danthuman's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:25
danthuman
Now how does one block the instant kill conga line?
Coafi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:40
Coafi
I didn't get it at all!! Haven't played the demo yet, but that looks hard to master.
Oh, and that music was awful.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:44
Jim Sterling
Yeah, this isn't quite a RIDE situation. Rebellion is just making up for the fact that the demo lacks any kind of tutorial. It's not saying "our game is great you just don't get it."
Canthari's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:52
Canthari
"Now how does one block the instant kill conga line?"

Just be smart enough to not ejecute an enemy while there are others around. Or press "Ñ", both works.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:56
Jim Sterling
The instant kill conga line is hilarious. I don't know why people don't like that.
oloacoo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 20:18
oloacoo
@Telephis

I remapped my sprint key "Q" to "X".

Maybe it just worked for me, idk.
Kudos's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 20:26
Kudos
I think marines in team death match may be pretty over powered. I don't know if you ran into any one who can actually aim as a marine, but if they stand in the big room and know how to use the radar. Your not gonna to get any where near them. I cannot imagine how hard it will be when there are multiples of them working together.
tvirusgetz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 20:42
tvirusgetz
@kudos
ive run into a few people who work together in the demo. its funny cuz they stil suck. i was playing as an alien when i ran into these 2 preds that teamed up. still slaughtered em tho. marines are a bit tougher to deal with but not if you know what your doing.
D-Nez's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 20:53
D-Nez
Benjaminjacobs:is that bob Marley?
CoKy14's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 20:55
CoKy14
Just like in Brütal Legend (I'm really sorry Tim, I still ove you as much), when the game's gameplay is broken, you need to explain it to the gamers...
Kflame210's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 21:06
Kflame210
What was that controller? It had two bottom analog sticks and a "real" directional pad like the PS3 but there are triggers like the 360... Very confusing.
benjaminajacobs's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 21:10
benjaminajacobs
@D-Nez

Ayuh
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 21:15
pedrovay2003
...Holy crap, Kflame210's right. I'm scared now.
L10nH3ArT's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 21:21
L10nH3ArT
I attempted to play this game and considering I couldn't even get into a quick match had me thinking that this piece of work will be laying around on the cheap within months. But I guess I can't stand Uncharted either so maybe I'm stupid.
tvirusgetz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 22:05
tvirusgetz
i just got thru playing with a group of competent players (at least, the marines were) the 3 'rines stuck together in that big main room back were the smartgun is. on order for any preds or aliens to get close they had to be as stealthy as possible. which brings me to this-stalking your prey as an alien, planing your attack out....oh my god it was so amazing. if this is what TDM and infestation will be like...this will most likely be my personal GOTY
Derik Schneider's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 23:47
Derik Schneider
to beat a bunch of marines jsut standing in a room, especially the big one, as a lone predator. throw the spear at them. it has no laser, and is a one hit kill.

if they are clumped up, you can plasma blast them. i did this several times to my friends tonight.

the boomerang blade is great from behind or a quick flick if they are coming at ya fast (aliens love this =) ).

a lone alien will have a tough time against one marine with his back against the wall. but aliens can lie in wait perfectly still on a ceiling in a corridor and kill anyone who walks below. as long as they dont look up, but you also want to be in shadow.

i know some marines cranking up their brightness/contrast so they can see in the darkness better, which is lame. they admitted to it when asked, but what are you gonna do... just be a predator next time :)
readbigwordsisgood's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 01:30
readbigwordsisgood
Monsters look goofy. Animations are just toy like.
Graphics have no polish at all.
The hallways look like Doom 3.
The resolution looks like 1280x1020

All said, extremely disappointed.

Just outright not fun.
Janxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 01:31
Janxer
You have to guess on the PC version of the demo?
Funny, because I remember going into the options menu and changing key settings to left and right, with separate bindings for the different races.
Oh well, I must have imagined it all.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 01:47
Cowboy TTop
I think the real problem with this game is that it based on the template of the previous AvP game, way back on the Jaguar and PC. Now while this was cool then and corridor shooters were all the rage, I find it hard to regress and play this style of FPS.

Just playing that demo made me feel like it was the 90's again, and I was playing Doom. This killed it for me, because I became sick of dark futuristic hexagonal corridors years ago. We are used to a mixture of open and closed environments in our games now. The previous demo before AvP was Bad Company 2, and what a fucking contrast there is and how much the FPS genre has evolved over the years. I'm kinda done with fragfests, its about team play, now.

I'm going to wait for Aliens Colonial Marines, because that I pray will be more fleshed out, forward thinking and my cup of tea, than what this game has become. I want smart rifles, nukes, rpgs, sharp sticks, centry guns, use of drop ships and APCs, team based play and various locals from the comics etc. Frankly, once again this AvP game is too movie based as far as I'm concerned, so itll be picked up cheap.

These three very different species need their own games, not a one fits all package.
Timothy Chuck Olsen's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 05:25
Timothy Chuck Olsen
Yo bro that controller is a ps3-360 hybrid, its get the analog sticks in the spot where the ps3 are and the trigger's are from the 360. the d pad is from the ps3 and the buttons look more 360'ish. now i wonder if the guy that did that vid editing new what he was doing or just didnt want to have to make a controller for each game! idk what im bringing this up just kinda thought it was wierd.
Thomas Hood's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 05:38
Thomas Hood
This game ain't for noobs.
Themightylebeau2009's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 05:58
Themightylebeau2009
Nothing in the video I didnt already know but Im watching everything that gets released.
Today I will play as the Predator :-) Oh yesh. Though probably will o back to the Alien.

I already have a party of friends for this game lol
Rucksack's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 07:26
Rucksack
@Cowboy Ttboy

You do know that this only a demo and, as such, it offers only a single map and one gametype intentionally? The full game will not only most likely have "mixed" environments", but species-based team play has already been confirmed.

Your complaints are about as valid as someone bitching that BF:BC 2 is only open fields and snow, and then yammering about how that's "so 2000". It's a demo and thus is an extremely limited sampling of the actual game.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 08:36
Holyetheline
block and counter system seem alright.
Themightylebeau2009's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 08:52
Themightylebeau2009
I really like the demo level, it has the right feel to it, strobe lights, alien hive sections etc.

Are they doing a single player demo at all?

And thanks to the video I now have a handle on using the counters.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 09:13
Jon B
Only problem with the combat system?
It only works well in 1v1. Someone else shows up, he's going to kill one of you very very easily.

That said, I do like the melee system, it works very well.
MCChampaignMillionaire's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 09:31
MCChampaignMillionaire
The demo was actually fun
Hitogoroshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 15:57
Hitogoroshi
The load screens. Look at them :P
KainX's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2010 02:45
KainX
im loving this game
Fistynuts's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/11/2010 06:47
Fistynuts
Have to say I played the demo and couldn't figure out what the heck was going on. The button assignments on the 360 controller don't feel natural at all, but I didn't check if there was an option to reconfigure them. I might give it another go at the weekend.
Anna Hannah's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/11/2011 09:21
Anna Hannah
I've gotta agree with Drakengard in all except the grade. I absolutely love this game, and can't wait for them to expand upon it. That being said, the DLC so far has been ass.
Best regards, Anna, CEO of iscsi for linux and itunes
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