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Ratings power struggles: BBFC and PEGI on the right to rate in the UK photo

As the findings of the Byron Report are due to be made known in the UK, it is now highly expected that Gordon Brown will introduce a cinema-style rating for all videogames. This would give sole responsibility of videogame rating to the British Board of Film Classification -- Britain's independent ratings body -- and effectively snub Europe's PEGI ratings system.

The BBFC appears to relish the idea of the (not yet confirmed) power to rate all videogames. "BBFC is a rating people  understand from film and DVD, so it might give parents a bit more peace of mind," stated BBFC spokesperson Sue Clark. "It would mean a bigger workload – but that’s our problem, not the industry’s – and we know we could handle it."

The BBFC even criticized PEGI ratings, saying that they confused parents. The BBFC already rates a good deal of games anyway, and was quick to point out that this move would merely "widen" the board's responsibilities. PEGI, meanwhile, has claimed otherwise, arguing that rating games in the same manner as films would represent a "step back" for Britain and resents the idea.

"If we are to see a move to movie-like classification, I would see it as a mistake. But I cannot speak for the UK public – or the UK Government," claimed Interactive Software Federation of Europe director general Patrice Chazerand. The ISFE is responsible for the current PEGI rating system and shares game ratings with the BBFC. 

Provided both systems would ensure my liberty as a grown adult to pick the games I want to play, then I would be fine with either one. However, all I know is that the BBFC, liberal as it may be, still won't give me the choice to purchase Manhunt 2 legally. Any encroachment on that sort of simple freedom is a worrying mark in my book.








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Sadie G's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 13:22
Sadie G
that's probably the best picture i have seen all day.
Rainbowblack's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 13:23
Rainbowblack
monkeys and sword play.

I am in awe

now if you'll excuse me I'll go back to staring at it
CALkulon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 13:24
CALkulon
Agreed with the last paragraph - I don't have any major problems with the BBFC rating all the games in the UK, in principle. But I do have a problem with them deciding that I actually really don't want to play Manhunt 2. I indeed do, and it's my choice. If it doesn't get sorted out soon I'll be importing, or doing whatever I have to do to get an unedited copy.
drMario1337's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 13:28
drMario1337
I agree with the last paragraph like CALkulon, and I love the picture.
broonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 13:29
broonor
Man that's great. PARENTS ARE DUM WE R NEED THINK FOR THAM K? As if the box art doesn't tell you 99% of the content of most games... Good thing the gubmint halps out more than just US consumers!
RivaOni's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 14:09
RivaOni
I do agree that people find the PEGI ratings confusing in this country, we've gotten so used to seeing BBFC ratings on visual media that uneducated games purchasers believe the PEGI ratings are a difficulty rating, not an age reccomendation. Thats how idiotic and uninformed on pretty much anything the British really are, takes the piss really.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 14:30
Bob Muir
Er, I know I'm an American and all, but aren't PEGI ratings those red circles with a clear age rating in the middle of them? How can you screw that up?
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 14:31
Bob Muir
My mistake, they're black boxes. Still, people should have some common sense. I'm tired of people claiming how confused they are instead of just learning a very simple system.
Upgrayedd's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 14:39
Upgrayedd
Say what you will about the US, but the 1st Amendment is pretty fucking stout.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 15:12
Sharpless
I only want to say how much I love that picture.

That is all.
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 15:41
Anus Mcphanus
@ Necros:

The black boxes are quite easy to miss/ignore and if working in retail has taught me anything is that people are stupid, lazy and have no common sense. A lot of people also don't even know the PEGI rating's there....it must be the fake Burberry caps that block their vision...

Since the BBFC regulate a lot of games already I don't think this will actually affect us that much... they will still ban the same games whether they had this new classification system or not. Also it gives us a bit more of an argument against all them would be J.Thompsons out there if the BBFC puts some legal muscle against the sale of "murder simulators" to minors
RivaOni's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 16:14
RivaOni
@Anus

If anything, it'll shut the Daily Fucking Mail up...
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 16:17
mistic
Epic (yet so fitting ) pic!
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 16:40
Anus Mcphanus
@ RivaOni:

haha lol I don't think anything will ever shut up the Daily Fail or the Torygraph for that matter

and Mr Sterling I do believe that this would make a most excellent topic on the next podcatle
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 16:41
Anus Mcphanus
*and the podcastle too which is probably better with less cows in the way
Spykron's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 17:59
Spykron
amazing fucking picture, like usual.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 19:40
DaedHead8
I'm from America and I've long though the ESRB should switch to the G-PG-PG13-R ratings system that our movies have. I think it would go a long way in educating parents about video games.

As far as the UK goes I really have no clue as I'm unfamiliar with both sets of ratings systems.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 21:04
Cowboy TTop
I disagree Deadhead, the U.S rating system does its job but is somewhat flawed in itself. Descriptions like mature and teen aren't enough and can be open to question. Everyone\can count so a numbered system is easier to understand. I'm sure if the U.S rating were tweaked a bit and enforced better, JT might boil down a little bit.

I've purchased U.S games before and I do think it needs a dash of eyecatching red to it like ours in the U.K.

As for giving the BBFC all of our games to rate, without PEGIs help, it might just turn into a shit storm. After bullshit biased Manhunt 2 debacle, can you honestly say, that you trust them to judge our games fairly and properly? I doubt it and we'd probably see more games banned for no reason.

The other thing that's dangerous is that total BBFC control could well slow the release of uk games down to a drip, with more edits too. Surely we don't want to go there.
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