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Rare WILL fix Banjo-Kazooie text issues? photo

Earlier in the week we reported that there would be no fix coming for the barely legible text in Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts. The text was so small that it rendered the game practically worthless for SDTV owners, and wasn't much easier to read in Hi-Def.

Rare was quoted as saying that a fix would be far too expensive to implement but it seems that, possibly due to nasty fan backlash, minds have been changed and the text will now be altered.

"It has come to our attention that people are experiencing subtitle readability issues with Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts on Standard Definition TVs," stated community manager George Kelion. "We would like to assure you that contrary to earlier reports, we are aware of the issue and currently working on a title update to be released within the next 30 days that will fix it for those with Standard Definition TVs. We're committed to ensuring all fans of the franchise are able to have the best experience possible with Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts."

Quite the turnaround, but it's good to know. Tiny text has become some sort of fad lately and there really is no need for it. Just because games can appear in Hi-Def now, it doesn't mean everyone has also gained some sort of ultravision. Keep text clear and functional ... it should really be a design basic, shouldn't it?








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Theplanman's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 14:06
Theplanman
Thank God. This game goes back up to "must-buy"
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 14:16
garison
Ya, it does seem like they are doing this more and more .
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 14:17
Xhumation
Tiny text sucks. it ruined Dead Rising for me (missed the time limite a lot because of it)

Glad they're doing this now I'm not so desperate about getting a new TV
TheGuero's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 14:22
TheGuero
I like to think that I played a major role in this changing of minds. I like how they acted that it was always an issue that was going to be fixed, when not even last week (time?) they were saying there was no way they would be able to fix it.

Yeah, just pretend we didn't make that previous comment, it was just a big typo. What we meant to say was that even though it would be so expensive to make the text larger, we were ALWAYS going to do it. I think they just realized that a huge part of their fanbase would not be buying their game because of an issue like this.
Guagloves's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 14:27
Guagloves
They should fix the driving as well so the game is playable.
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 14:42
eternalplayer2345
I reserved so I'm stuck with this game , so yay
everybodyruns's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 15:15
everybodyruns
Great to hear that they're fixing it. It seems like common sense, but I am especially offended being a programmer; not having the ability to easily scale your text is ridiculously flawed design. Ideally, this should be fixable within a day.
exodus1925's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 15:15
exodus1925
Isn't that a first? Developers listening?
Tron's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 15:20
Tron
nope, too late, Rare. Not buying your game, even with a fix simply because this shouldn't be an issue in the first place.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 15:28
Timmeh
How fucking hard is it to make text a readable goddamn size?

Come to think of it, how fucking hard is it to give people a choice? Not many games seem to offer different text sizes these days... surely they can spare a tenner from the art budget for a couple of different font sizes?
Coldbrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 15:41
Coldbrand
There's still the problem that the game is shit.
cametall's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 15:46
cametall
That's cool.

I'm still majorly on the fence about this game. The demo did nothing for me but create frustration. The vehicle controls felt terrible.

Can't wait for the reviews.
dmgi's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 15:58
dmgi
How does this get past play-testing? Are they afraid to say something bad to the company that's paying them?
bVork's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 16:04
bVork
I recall one of the XBLA certification requirements involving playing the game to completion with a 17" CRT TV. Evidently Rare is not held to the same standards as other developers.
bVork's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 16:04
bVork
I recall one of the XBLA certification requirements involving playing the game to completion with a 17" CRT TV. Evidently Rare is not held to the same standards as other developers.
Drach's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 16:25
Drach
I agree, Jim. Being someone who just made the transition from a Standard to a high definition I can honestly say that my PS3 text in game was barely readable. I really didn't notice a big deal about it until I plugged the thing into a High Definition. I actually could READ text on the screen! But this brings me to a question.. "how are people who don't have a nice TV going to play these games and or read the text?"
I will say that what bVork says is interesting.. developers should be made to play the game on a small crt monitor. That way when someone who has a small standard definition TV they can actually play/read it.
I like what Jim said about this.. " Just because games can appear in Hi-Def now, it doesn't mean everyone has also gained some sort of ultravision."
And I agree wholeheartedly. "Not everyone has a high definition TV, so stop making ALL the games in High Definition!"
dawn fire's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 17:04
dawn fire
ha, shame it took fan reaction to sort it out! i bet if people suffered in silence they'd sit back and count the money. another game with problems. too many issue's/glitches and things with games lately.
Atlas's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 17:48
Atlas
I played the demo. Couldn't read a thing. Not buying this game. Tiny text. K?
SetoChaos's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 18:19
SetoChaos
Thank goodness for that. I haven't canceled my preorder yet. Good to know they're fixing it. I will no longer cancel my preorder.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 19:45
Aaron Mxy Yost
Good that they're actually listening to complaints, unlike the director of Dead Rising who basically laughed at the fans and said people playing the game should own a HDTV.
ExpertPenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 20:13
ExpertPenguin
@ Mxyzpltk

I thought that was hilarious, if a little too acute and insensitive.
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 20:27
randombullseye
I couldn't read anything on my TV. That demo was worthless.
Zerozaki Ishiki's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 22:12
Zerozaki Ishiki
Too late. Pre-order already canceled, funds diverted to Mirror's Edge, which looks way better to begin with.
rbrooks's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 22:43
rbrooks
LOL i played the demo and the text was far too small (HDTV)....but thats not why i'm not going to buy it...i didn't find it all that fun...and the promotion they had "running" is somehow absent in Canada (calgary at least).
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 22:51
Qraze
i hate tiny text. pennt arcade is another one i been playing that is plagued by this. i didn't know the health bar was below the characters while another attack defence speed menu is in plain fucking sight until i kept getting killed and finally moved closer, squinted my eyes,put my cock away and then and only then i could see the bar.horrible practice i know but my pants can't keep the beast under control.
Cube's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 23:19
Cube
You know.......

I played the demo of that game even though I think the n64 games sucked monkey balls, I gave it another shot, and it still sucks.


But On my my tv that Text is god damn huge I could even read it with out my reading/monitor glasses and that is saying something since years of games and my job in front of a PC has ruined my damn eyes.


are you people telling me you cant read this text? I can see it as plain as day and i can even spot the jagges from the total lack of any decent anti-aliasing you can eve see the damn problems with the xbox low res output and it up converting it.



I have more trouble reading the text on this site with a 30 inch monitor than I do in any xbox 360 game.


and yes lost planet and all the other games people complained about also had damn huge text/typefaces.
Burnt Meatloaf's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/08/2008 23:37
Burnt Meatloaf
Well, it's just bad PR to say you won't do something. Always keep your options open.

Good to see that they learned their lesson the hard way. Here's hoping they'll keep other usability issues in mind in the future.

I've yet to try the demo, though.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 00:33
Bob Muir
I tolerated it in Dead Rising, but I see no reason why text shouldn't be a touch larger. Hell, it was really big in Banjo-Kazooie on N64, it just scrolled appropriately.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 02:00
Kyousuke Nanbu
Well that's good, I hated the tiny ass text.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 02:00
manasteel88
Until they actually do it, I won't pick up the game. Once the patch actually comes then I'll look at it. Thats the issue with the patch system these days. What is the point of buying a glitchy game and hoping for it to get fixed. This is the only thing I truly respect about Nintendo these days. Their products aren't gonna have a patch come along with a TBD timeframe. It either works, or its broken.
OrgunDonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 04:27
OrgunDonor
Well Im one of the lucky ones that doesnt suffer from the small text issue, but being a slow reader, half the time im miss the what they were saying as it auto scrolled. That annoyed me. But the reason this game went from a must get when i can to a pfft yea maybe not so much, is the feel of the driving. Its bloody terrible! Which is a little heart breaking cause i was looking forward to some good platforming.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 09:11
Holyetheline
On my HDTV the text even seemed too small.
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 21:05
TrailerParkJesus
I already crossed this off the list. Maybe when it's even cheaper than $40.
Felixader's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 19:17
Felixader
@Cube: Wow.... just wow! Your Name must be based on your head.

But at Topic:

What bothers me the most at this side is that at this half of the year this like the.... not exactly shure here... fourth or fifth game (?) wich has an Update coming BEFORE it even came out to be actually played without any Problems before release!

Does that mean that Console Players ave now the same GREAT opportunity as the PC-Gamers, to be the BetaTesters of GamePublishers, just cause they can update those Games now via Internet Connections.

Has that normaly great Feature become a Problem to us at the End?
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