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Rare explains XBLA GoldenEye's legal limbo photo

It's simply not possible to convince some people that time has not been kind to Rare's classic Nintendo 64 first-person shooter GoldenEye. So the idea of an Xbox LIVE Arcade remake of the title is still an appealing prospect for many. It's too bad that legal issues are holding up the game's release, both on XBLA and Nintendo's Virtual Console. 

"I kind of wished that the difference got sorted out," Rare's Nick Burton told VideoGamer.com, "but obviously there's the licensing issue for Bond, if it it's something that's already come out."

He goes on to explain that the legal aspects of dealing with the title are incredibly complex, with so many license holders involved. Activision currently owns the videogames rights for the James Bond license, and will be releasing their its first title, Quantum of Solace, this fall. 

"The ball's not in anybody at Rare's court, really," Burton says with seeming frustration. "It's squarely in the license holders' court. It's a shame. It's kind of locked in this no man's land. There's nothing on LIVE Arcade, there's nothing on Wii."

Yeah, no kidding -- you don't need to rub it in the faces of GoldenEye fans. Sheesh.








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the Golden Avatar's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 11:56
the Golden Avatar
I'd rather have Perfect Dark. It was better in every way.
TheDirtyHobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:01
TheDirtyHobo
I tried playing GoldenEye on a friend's old N64 about 6 months ago. It was at that point that it really dawned on me how far FPS control schemes have come in the past decade or so.

If they updated said control scheme, I would be willing to try it, but I can't say much about actually paying for it. It was a good game in its time, but to try and compare it with modern FPSs is a waste of breath.
myaimistrue's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:05
myaimistrue
Nope, not convinced. Goldeneye has aged like a fine wine, get's better every year. Yep yep yep.
IF it ever comes on XBLA, then i'll buy a 360 just for that game. It seriously means that much.
Geoff Henao's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:07
Geoff Henao
I was gonna come on here, commenting on how much better Perfect Dark was/is, but the Golden Avatar beat me. Damn.
naia-the-gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:08
naia-the-gamer
Well I suppose one good thing about this is we can't blame Nintendo for this, right?

Right??
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:11
Brian Szabelski
So wait, in the end, it's Activision that is holding this up?

Well, fuck them.
exodus1925's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:15
exodus1925
Serially, just download the source mod for Steam: Goldeneye:Source. It plays like a PC FPS and is an incredibly faithful recreation to the original. The maps are the same but with updated textures etc and the gameplay is excellent! Not enough people play this mod!
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:18
falinter
I agree with the first guy up there.

Forget about this crap and get Perfect Dark 64 started into the 5 year legal limbo.
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:19
CypherVR
just let activision a cut of the profits if they allow the game access on VC and XBLA.

That or have nintendo do some editing so the game does not carry any references to 007, and call it -James Pond-, -Goldenflow-

just give us the damn game(s).
pendelton21's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:19
pendelton21
Goldeneye: Source is fantastic. There's no need to grumble over this whole thing; just download that.
Arttemis's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:37
Arttemis
Am I the only person that loved GoldenEye but didn't particularly like Perfect Dark?

@CypherVR - I actually owned the Genesis game 'James Pond'... The music was probably the best part about it.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:49
Timmeh
I spent many many hours with Goldeney, playing the single player to death and engaging in bouts of multiplayer, featuring such custom games as 'Hunt the fatman' where 1 player was forced to pick Robbie Coltrane and everyone else hunted him down. Whoever had the least kills at the end of the round got to do the honours in the next one. :)

That said, goldeneye is best left as a fond memory, this would look and play AWFUL by today's standards.
bluemeep's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 12:53
bluemeep
I loved the several seconds of getting my ass shot off while looking at and away from my watch. I can't wait to experience that again.
Cacophony's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 13:05
Cacophony
I keep telling people that Goldeneye just plain sucks nowadays. Sure, it was awesome when I first played it. But now, eh, not so much.

If only they'd see the light.
savagesaladin's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 13:08
savagesaladin
I agree with Golden avatar. Perfect Dark was WAAYYY better.
Narishma's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 13:15
Narishma
Well since they can't bring it to XBLA nor the Virtual Console I see only one solution: PSN.
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 13:16
HarassmentPanda
Quit your bitching, people! They GAVE you Perfect Dark Zero, what more do you want?
Brando's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 13:18
Brando
This just reminds me that we need more 4 player split screen FPS, live is good and all but there is something special about being able to smack your friends in person when they are being a cheap bastard.
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 13:19
JonDarkwood
@HarassmentPanda: The original one maybe? Or was that not obvious.
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 13:51
B-Radicate
I'd much rather have the original Perfect Dark. It's a much better/robust multiplayer game and single player game to boot. Throw that up on XBLA and they can have my money.
relik's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 13:57
relik
I much preferred Goldeneye to Perfect Dark. Gutted we ain't gonna see this on Live Arcade.
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 14:08
Clockwork
It was really too bad that they came so close. I don't know what the fuss is with Perfect Dark, I still thought Goldeneye was better by far. Hopefully they can sort it out and give what the fans want.
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 14:25
Rabite
I lost interest in Perfect Dark rather quickly. Goldeneye is still a game I'd buy an N64 and cart for. Maybe I'll just hit up eBay.
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 14:34
CypherVR
It'd be a better idea to take that energy about bitching about goldeneye for VC/XBLA since it's gonna be a long road, and use that energy to bitch about PD isn't on VC because it's has no property rights aside from Rare creating it.

somewhat related note-
(Hey, nintendo put out Diddy kong racing on the DS-minus a couple characters)
miketava's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 14:43
miketava
@Artemis. Totally agree with you. I never liked perfect dark its just too damn smudgy and non-entertaining. Bond's where it's at for sure. You are not alone my friend ;)
dawn fire's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 14:49
dawn fire
i love goldeneye, and want it on live arcade so bad, but sadly it sounds like it'll never happen...
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 15:02
Darren Nakamura
I won't take any convincing. I've seen it first hand. The game is unplayable by today's standards.
Agent Orange's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 15:20
Agent Orange
Those were the days. Back when you could play a four player deathmatch without buying four consoles, games, live accounts, etc. Of course, it makes sense as no one has any friends they have met in person.

Oh, and even today, GoldenEye/Perfect Dark is still more fun than Halo, for example.
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 15:44
fetusmilk
perfect dark was waaay better.
Too Much Coffee Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 15:50
Too Much Coffee Man
Activision holds the James Bond rights until 2014!
(but then again EA supposedly had it until 2009 but lost it in 2006)

Which means maybe, during the next xbox, a goldeneye remake..?

Unless MS wants to pony up some $$$$$ to buy the rights before then.

One MAJOR PROBLEM though; the license is owned by MGM, which was bought by Sony in 2004. So Sony owns the license. But RARE is owned by Microsoft.

Would Sony license a property to MS that would result in a high selling xbox game?

I'd certainly buy a good remake of GoldenEye.
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 16:52
Johnny Justice
The developers have gone on and evolved the formula. Not only in Perfect Dark but I'm pretty sure a lot of the team have been working on the Timesplitters series.
stafax's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 18:02
stafax
Some people need to quit living in the past. All Goldeneye did was revolutionize the controls for a console fps game. Even at it's time, it wasn't as good as PC shooters such as Quake and Half life. Goldeneye did not age well at all, unlike other fps games like Doom 2 which is still fun today.
Pepillou2's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 18:07
Pepillou2
I liked all the options in Perfect Dark's multiplayer
Still, I suck at both of 'em
xe-cute's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 20:43
xe-cute
This has not explained anything.... we knew it was complex already and no new information has been added here to expand on the situation, I have learned nothing new (aka waste of time).
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 20:48
BluDesign
@xe-cute

What were you seriously expecting? Were you expecting some crazy old lady to shuffle out of her estate cackling?

"I've GOT YOUR GOLDENEYE RIGHT HERE!!!" and then have her laugh as she jumps back into the home, which is suddenly revealed to be ASSHOLE MANOR in the state of Wedontgiveafuckaboutia?

If you felt like nothing was added, move on. Some people are too lazy to search wikipedia.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2008 00:25
Bob Muir
Leave it behind. No one should play this again. It has not aged well at all. Leave your precious nostalgia intact.
Liontamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2008 07:39
Liontamer
Wasn't feeling Perfect Dark as much when that came out. Tended to lag a bit when it shouldn't have in the multiplayer. Sure GoldenEye has aged a bit, but it was still an amazing game. Part of the reason I got into game music, even. It's more than worthy of an online platform re-release; the comments that no one else should even play it anymore just come off as outliers.

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Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2008 08:36
Dan CiTi
I'd be happy with Perfect Dark. It's pretty much the same thing with better graphics and better weapons.

If that had HD remix or whatever with XBL multiplayer and such I'd buy it. But if it's like a VC game, I'd be happy with emulation on a PC or something if I really NEEDED to play it.
LarkOhiya's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2008 09:56
LarkOhiya
Perfect dark was way better honestly. And can be practically the same game if you have weapon types set up and only play on "falicity" (if i remember right they renamed facility to that just cuzz)
GohanGVO's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/09/2008 18:26
GohanGVO
'Perfect Dark' single-player was great until aliens were introduced. Then, it turned to shit.

Also, 'GE64' has not aged well.
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